Jpeg not free anymore

Czar

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26272.html

Some company got a hold of the patent for jpeg compression and is now demanding royalties for each transfered jpeg file except in satellite streams :(

JPEGs are not free: Patent holder pursues IP grab
By Andrew Orlowski in London
Posted: 18/07/2002 at 16:34 GMT


A video conferencing company based in Austin, Texas says it's going to pursue royalties on the transmission of JPEG images.

And it's already found a licensee: Sony Corporation.

Formerly known as VTEL, Forgent Networks acquired Compression Labs in 1997, acquiring this patent into the bargain. The patent claim was filed in 1986 but Compression Labs never pursued royalties.

Forgent last week declared that it has "the sole and exclusive right to use and license all the claims" under the patent and is seeking a deal wherever JPEGs are transmitted, with the exception of satellite broadcasting.

It specifies browsers, PDAs, digital cameras, phones and scanners in its 'clarification'. So the IP claim extends to any client device which receives a JPEG image.

Forgent's most recent SEC filing states that Sony Corporation paid the company $15 million for licensing Patent 4,698,672: a significant portion of the $22 million Forgent booked as revenue in the quarter.

In its the filing, Forgent adds:

"The Company is pursuing additional license agreements
with other companies from multiple industries; however, there can be no assurance that additional licenses can be obtained or, if obtained will be on
similar favorable terms."

Forgent had yet to respond to our enquiries at time of writing. ®
 
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Riiiiiiiiight, this'll fly...
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luvya

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bah.......I can still convert any image to jpeg in the photoshop no problem~
 
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someone in texas should egg their HQ.

Actually we should egg the HQ of all the companies that try to put greed as their way of making profit.

Who wants to Egg Rambus, Microsoft and others.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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I thought of a possibility... as their site is totally unreachable for me at the moment, might it be hacked, that they are trying to fix it now?
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
I thought of a possibility... as their site is totally unreachable for me at the moment, might it be hacked, that they are trying to fix it now?

you mean the register? it works for me
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
I thought of a possibility... as their site is totally unreachable for me at the moment, might it be hacked, that they are trying to fix it now?

you mean the register? it works for me

Crap, must be a router down between me and them :(

Edit: Hmm.. weird, it can't resolve the name.

Anyone have an IP number for it?
 

habib89

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hrmm... i just made a jpeg and hrmm... interesting... no money is missing from my wallet... so i guess those guys can kiss my @ss
 

joohang

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Originally posted by: habib89
hrmm... i just made a jpeg and hrmm... interesting... no money is missing from my wallet... so i guess those guys can kiss my @ss

They'll likely dig into ways to shell out big bucks from big companies. No point in chasing every consumer.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
I thought of a possibility... as their site is totally unreachable for me at the moment, might it be hacked, that they are trying to fix it now?

you mean the register? it works for me

Crap, must be a router down between me and them :(

Edit: Hmm.. weird, it can't resolve the name.

Anyone have an IP number for it?

http://213.40.196.64/content/4/26272.html
 

n0cmonkey

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Microsoft pulls the same stuff with their patents in OpenGL and plenty of people are saying "hell yeah." This happens and everyone is upset. WTF? .png is here. Use it.

Im all for getting rid of jpg. Its about damn time.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
I thought of a possibility... as their site is totally unreachable for me at the moment, might it be hacked, that they are trying to fix it now?

you mean the register? it works for me

Crap, must be a router down between me and them :(

Edit: Hmm.. weird, it can't resolve the name.

Anyone have an IP number for it?

http://213.40.196.64/content/4/26272.html

Thanks.

Tweakers.net reports on it too now (dutch tech site), and mentions http://www.dpreview.com/news/0207/02071803forgentjpeg.asp as source.
 

tcsenter

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JPEG will not be "free" for Adobe to use in Photoshop, JASC to use in Paint Shop Pro, for Digital Camera manufacturers to use in their software bundles, for Microsoft to use in Internet Explorer, etc. The royalty these commercial software and hardware makers will have to pay to offer JPEG format compression/decompression in their products will be passed along in the price of the software or hardware, but the company is not and can not seek to extract nickels from every private individual using these products to produce or view JPEG images. That is not what the company's press release states or implies.
 

XFreebie

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FORGEnt

sounds like a submarine patent cuz ive never heard of it, anyway British Telecoms wants a six-pence for every URL...

this jpeg thing wont affect the common consumer, for example some german group collects royalties on the mp3 format, but thats only on the software/codecs that make mp3's, not on the actual mp3's themselves which is why u can download all the mp3's u want on ur favorite p2p..
 

Raincity

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Whats new, they do this law suit anouncment every year for the last five years and I beleive that they have never recieved a single nickel in royalties yet.

Rain
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
JPEG will not be "free" for Adobe to use in Photoshop, JASC to use in Paint Shop Pro, for Digital Camera manufacturers to use in their software bundles, for Microsoft to use in Internet Explorer, etc. The royalty these commercial software and hardware makers will have to pay to offer JPEG format compression/decompression in their products will be passed along in the price of the software or hardware, but the company is not and can not seek to extract nickels from every private individual using these products to produce or view JPEG images. That is not what the company's press release states or implies.
Exactly. This will eventually end up digging into your pocket by higher costs for software that support JPEG compression. Regardless of going to PNG or not, most software developers will still seek to support JPEG and you will end up paying for it in higher prices for the software. Of course most Photoshop users will still never pay a dime for JPEG because they don't pay for PS in the first place. ;)
 

Rallispec

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.png
:D


speaking of png files.. are their any browsers out there now that dont support them?
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Rallispec
.png
:D


speaking of png files.. are their any browsers out there now that dont support them?
Not sure about IE 5.0, but I'm pretty sure that anything before that doesnt support it.