Journal News gun permit map used by burglars to target White Plains home?

[emperus]

So I found a real report of the incident. Here are some interesting quotes.

http://www.newsday.com/journal-news...ection-with-white-plains-burglaries-1.4446168

The police chief could not say whether one or more burglars broke into the Davis Avenue house, but he noted that $6,000 worth of jewelry was stolen and "there were pry marks on the gun safe."

No arrest had been made in the Davis Avenue burglary as of Monday afternoon, police said.
Officers did nab a suspect Saturday night who might be responsible for a string of recent break-ins, Chong said. He was identified as Dexter Smith, 32, a homeless man from White Plains who has a long criminal record of larcenies, the police commissioner said.
White Plains has experienced a spike in burglaries in recent months, Det. Lt. Eric Fischer said Monday. Neither he nor Chong had precise numbers on the break-ins, but a source within the department said eight White Plains homes have been burglarized in the past week.
In 2012, there were 83 burglaries in White Plains, according to the department's CompStat statistics, up from 46 burglaries reported in 2011, according to FBI statistics.
Chong attributed the rise in burglaries to the struggling economy. He said he had assigned extra police to investigate the break-ins, but he declined to offer further details about efforts to prevent the incidents.
"Anytime you have unemployment and economic problems, these types of crimes rise," he noted.
Chong said the arrest of Smith and the jailing two weeks ago of Myles Hamlin, 19, of White Plains, and Dwayne White, 22, of Brooklyn, moments after they allegedly broke into a Linda Avenue home as potentially having an impact on home burglary attempts. All three men have been charged with one count of felony burglary.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Think about it for a second. If they can easily identify who has guns, how many and of what type they can then target those people by staking out their place and waiting for them to leave. It's when they don't know there is a gun in the house that can cause them to hesitate burglarizing since they do not know if they will be met with armed force.

this.

 

[umbrella39]

You guys should be grateful there are conservatives here to explain the hard to understand stuff. Guns are a deterrent when you are home and a target when you aren't, because contrary to proggie dogma (1) criminals don't obey gun laws when procuring weaponry and (2) guns don't kill people.

Let me know if that needs to be further broken down.

You guys should be grateful there are "liberals" here that hunt, carry, collect, too that can help you understand that if it weren't for us the gun grabbers would have probably had their way decades ago and that you don't get to speak for all gun owners. Try and keep that in mind while you are pulling your head out of your ass and trying to paint everyone with the same crap that comes out along with it.

Let me know if you need some toilet paper.

 

[TheVrolok]

You guys should be grateful there are "liberals" here that hunt, carry, collect, too that can help you understand that if it weren't for us the gun grabbers would have probably had their way decades ago and that you don't get to speak for all gun owners. Try and keep that in mind while you are pulling your head out of your ass and trying to paint everyone with the same crap that comes out along with it.

Let me know if you need some toilet paper.

I have my voter registration (dem), aclu membership card, nra membership card, and 2 CCWs (fl/pa) sitting together in my wallet. Go figure.

 

[emperus]

Think about it for a second. If they can easily identify who has guns, how many and of what type they can then target those people by staking out their place and waiting for them to leave. It's when they don't know there is a gun in the house that can cause them to hesitate burglarizing since they do not know if they will be met with armed force.

Yes, I'm sure most burglars think this all through before they decide to rob a house. They get the gun map, locate a house on the map find out how many residents are in the house, lay low till all the residents are gone, then enter the house, hoping the resident didn't take the gun with them, do a search for a gun which is probably hidden in a good place, all the while hoping that the residents do not return, with a gun and kill you. Then after finding a gun, selling whatever gun you found on the black market. Does this sound rational to you?

How many times do you think someone could do this process without something bad happening? If you are smart enough to do all this, do you think you would probably be doing petty house robberies? Do you think there is some criminal home gun theft cartel that sends these people out.

I mean you gun nuts really do sound crazy.

 

[PokerGuy]

I have my voter registration (dem), aclu membership card, nra membership card, and 2 CCWs (fl/pa) sitting together in my wallet. Go figure.

That's great, but the fact is that it's not the righties pushing idiotic gun grabbing bills. You can blame righties for a lot of things, but that's not one of them. It's the lunatic left wing (Pelosi types) that are making use of the moment to try and push their idiocy.

 

[Incorruptible]

That's great, but the fact is that it's not the righties pushing idiotic gun grabbing bills. You can blame righties for a lot of things, but that's not one of them. It's the lunatic left wing (Pelosi types) that are making use of the moment to try and push their idiocy.

Agree, These people are using the killings of innocent people to push for a political agenda. They dont care about the victims but just pushing the agenda

 

[umbrella39]

People on both sides of the aisle have been guilty of this each and every day since the recent killings...

 

[momeNt]

Newspapers don't burglarize homes. Just another attack on the First Amendment.

It is interesting that you bring this up. It really boils down to a problem with how the second amendment is administered. There should be no permitting of guns to begin with, so no public records for newspapers to troll to be able to post these maps. Censoring these newspapers is indeed an attack on the first amendment, so to truly solve the problem we need to remove permitting for firearms so there is no record to FOIA or for governments to voluntarily publish.

 

[Incorruptible]

People on both sides of the aisle have been guilty of this each and every day since the recent killings...

They have and they are wrong for this, But when people such as that pos piers morgan say that if you oppose his views then you support the killings is just wrong. Him and his fellow advocates have been doing this

 

[werepossum]

You guys should be grateful there are "liberals" here that hunt, carry, collect, too that can help you understand that if it weren't for us the gun grabbers would have probably had their way decades ago and that you don't get to speak for all gun owners. Try and keep that in mind while you are pulling your head out of your ass and trying to paint everyone with the same crap that comes out along with it.

Let me know if you need some toilet paper.

Oh, I'm certainly glad there are liberals who support gun rights. That's why I take the time to explain the hard stuff to you.

 

[umbrella39]

You still have some on your upper lip, right there... sadly I don't have another square to spare so you are on your own sweetie

 

[blankslate]

So I found a real report of the incident. Here are some interesting quotes. http://www.newsday.com/journal-news-...ries-1.4446168

he police chief could not say whether one or more burglars broke into the Davis Avenue house, but he noted that $6,000 worth of jewelry was stolen and "there were pry marks on the gun safe."

So it could very well have been random theft as much as a person targeting a gun owner's home.

From the link posted by emperus

It would be "premature and speculative" to say the burglar targeted the Davis Avenue home Saturday because it appeared on the Journal News website as being owned by a man in his 70s who has a gun permit, "but it is something that we're looking into and will continue to investigate," Chong told Newsday on Monday.

It may very well be that they wanted guns. However, it could just as likely be that they would take anything easily concealable with a high dollar value.

 

[zinfamous]

If you're home AND know how to use them, odds are yes. If you're not home, of course not as guns don't jump up and fire without a hand to wield them and pull the trigger. Not saying that to insult you, it's just that that simple fact is lost on some anti-gun zealots.

does data support the notion that gun ownership increases the likelihood of one's house being a target of theft?

You realize, of course, someone being home or not is completely irrelevant.

Is there data?