John W Dean: The Serious Implications Of President Bush's Hiring A Personal Outside Counsel

GrGr

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This action by Bush is a rather stunning and extraordinary development. The President of the United States is potentially hiring a private criminal defense lawyer. Unsurprisingly, the White House is doing all it can to bury the story, providing precious little detail or context for the President's action.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Bush explained his action by saying, "This is a criminal matter. It's a serious matter," but he gave no further specifics. White House officials, too, would not say exactly what prompted Bush to seek the outside advice, or whether he had been asked to appear before the grand jury.

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Reasons the Plame Grand Jury May Want Bush's Testimony

Why might the grand jury wish to hear Bush's testimony? Most of the possible answers are not favorable for Bush.

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Bush Needs An Outside Attorney To Maintain Attorney-Client Privilege

Readers may wonder, why is Bush going to an outside counsel, when numerous government attorneys are available to him - for instance, in the White House Counsel's Office?

The answer is that the President has likely been told it would be risky to talk to his White House lawyers, particularly if he knows more than he claims publicly.

Ironically, it was the fair-haired Republican stalwart Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr who decimated the attorney-client privilege for government lawyers and their clients - which, to paraphrase the authority Wigmore, applies when legal advice of any kind is sought by a client from a professional legal adviser, where the advice is sought in confidence.

The reason the privilege was created was to insure open and candid discussion between a lawyer and his or her client. It traditionally applied in both civil and criminal situations for government lawyers, just as it did for non-government lawyers. It applied to written records of communications, such as attorney's notes, as well as to the communications themselves.

But Starr tried to thwart that tradition in two different cases, before two federal appeals courts. There, he contended that there should be no such privilege in criminal cases involving government lawyers.

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Infohawk

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The so-called lliberal media hasn't been talking about this much in my opinion. I'd like to know what neo-conservatives think of this scandal. Not that getting counsel is scandalous, but the reasons he needs counsel.
 
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Originally posted by: Infohawk
The so-called lliberal media hasn't been talking about this much in my opinion. I'd like to know what neo-conservatives think of this scandal. Not that getting counsel is scandalous, but the reasons he needs counsel.

It's an interesting situation. I tend to think President Clinton's legal troubles set the stage for an American president's consultation with a criminal defense lawyer not to be a big deal. I don't see anything wrong with President Bush consulting a lawyer, but it is historically unusual, and even as an attorney it's not obvious to me why he would need to do so if he genuinely knew nothing about the Plame leak.

My guess (and it's just a guess) is that the info about Plame was leaked by Lewis "Scooter" Libby, and that President Bush found out about it after the fact. I imagine he may now be consulting a lawyer to get advice on how to handle this very issue when he is questioned.
 

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I think this is a repost, with the topic at hand alreaded being discussed Here

by one of the forums prestigious anti-government members.:);)