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John Oliver Interviews Edward Snowden

Hilarious and informative all at the same time.

Off to show how much i love america now 😉

Bulk Collection :biggrin:
 
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That was pretty good.

At some point Oliver must have been like, wtf am I doing? Look at him start sweating halfway through the interview, def made the end bit good I thought. 😉
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
22:44, that's what an ego crashing down to earth looks like.

John Oliver has been on a tear, all of his Last Week Tonight shows are must see.
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I dont think he did what he did because of ego. I think he was justifying the consequences of his actions by thinking the world cared. That face is what you get when you realize you just ruined your life forever and almost nobody knows your name.
 
realibrad said:
I dont think he did what he did because of ego. I think he was justifying the consequences of his actions by thinking the world cared. That face is what you get when you realize you just ruined your life forever and almost nobody knows your name.
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Exactly.

Did that delay seriously piss him off? Oliver seemed more dickish in that interview than the others of his that I've seen.
 
kage69 said:
Exactly.

Did that delay seriously piss him off? Oliver seemed more dickish in that interview than the others of his that I've seen.
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Probably because Snowden deserves it.

"How many of those documents have you actually read?" Oliver eventually asked. When Snowden said he'd "evaluated" them, Oliver pressed: "There's a difference between understanding what's in the documents and reading what's in the documents. When you're handing over thousands of NSA documents, the last thing you want to do is read them."
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Should have followed with a mic drop and rolled credits right there.
 
kage69 said:
Exactly.

Did that delay seriously piss him off? Oliver seemed more dickish in that interview than the others of his that I've seen.
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I think Oliver was playing a role to give him credibility to as many as possible. Some who are on the side that he did the right thing will say he was too hard. Those who believe that he did the wrong thing, would see it as getting whats due.
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
Probably because Snowden deserves it.


Should have followed with a mic drop and rolled credits right there.
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And that is the main problem I have with Snowden and Bradley Manning releasing so much information. They don't understand it or the issues it might cause. And I'm not talking about the issues of people crying the NSA saw their dick pic.
 
smackababy said:
And that is the main problem I have with Snowden and Bradley Manning releasing so much information. They don't understand it or the issues it might cause. And I'm not talking about the issues of people crying the NSA saw their dick pic.
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I doubt you are advocating complete trust in the government, so what do you do when power becomes abused?
 
realibrad said:
I doubt you are advocating complete trust in the government, so what do you do when power becomes abused?
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At they very least, he should have been the one redacting the information, not the Journalists who know shitz about what needs to be redacted (e.g., the Mosul example).
 
realibrad said:
I doubt you are advocating complete trust in the government, so what do you do when power becomes abused?
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I am not saying there should be no checks. I don't fault his reasons for doing what he did. I just understand the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He was acting from a position of ignorance when it came to the data he obtained. As such, I can't condone him possibly putting America in danger. What if he leaked some vulnerability that someone exploited to kill Americans? Are there lives worth what really amounts to nothing? Sure, the NSA might have scaled back (or so they said they have, but who is actually checking). Is that worth potentially endangering lives of those who have nothing to do with it?
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
You address the abuses, you don't give the whole damn game away.
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But whom do you address those abuses to? When the institution is the one doing the abusing, do you go to that institution to resolve the abuse? I mean, its not like they did not know what they were doing, they did. I could see if the NSA did not realize what was happening, but they inherently did.

We have the branches of government broken up to protect against abuses, but what do we do here?
 
Think about that logic. Going to the govt to complain about it abusing its spy program. This is what people dont seem to understand. The govt will not address these abuses in any meaningful way unless the avg person starts caring. And clearly the avg person is so apathetic again that isnt happening.
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
No, my comment isn't about who he went to, it's about what he gave them.
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No, I understand. But if not the media, then who do you give it too? The problem is that the way the whole system was set up, is to make it so that the government is the only one you can go to. What recourse do we have for whistleblowers who are involved with terrorism? He had little choice other than to go to the media. Its a shitty option, but less shitty than anything else so far as I know.
 
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