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John McCain To Be Endorsed By Joseph Lieberman

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Lemon law

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Sorry, its just very hard for me to get my arms around what Shea is saying---"That's right, Joementum. Once you get Joementum working for you, it is all over but ordering the balloons."

Joementum didn't help Gore a bit in 2000. Joementum could not even get Lieberman the democratic nomination in his home state in 06 as a incumbent Senator, and Lieberman only won his race as an independent in 06 because the Republicans ran a terribly weak idiot who ended up getting less than double digit poll numbers in the general election.

I don't think Joementum is worth a cup of warm spit but its still a creative journalistic sound byte. Now comes the acid test, will it turn into any votes or extra primary delegates?

 

Thump553

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
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Joementum didn't help Gore a bit in 2000. Joementum could not even get Lieberman the democratic nomination in his home state in 06 as a incumbent Senator, and Lieberman only won his race as an independent in 06 because the Republicans ran a terribly weak idiot who ended up getting less than double digit poll numbers in the general election.

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Actually the Republican nominee was quite articulate & did the best job in the debates of anyone I have seen, at any level, since Ross Perot. He had his issues (primarily wasteful spending, SS) that he hammered on effectively and clearly. His problem had several causes:

(1) Most importantly, he was totally abandoned by the GOP party. Initially he was nominated as a sacrificial lamb with the view that Joe would inevitably win. There was even talk of the the GOP cross-endorsing Lieberman (this was before the challenger for Democratic nomination caught fire). The GOP candidate got only nominal funds, and absolutely no real support, from his party. National GOP money and support went (under the table) to Lieberman.

(2) The GOP candidate got very little press (except to comment on his stellar performances after each debate). The sexy story was Lieberman's attempted comeback.

(3) The GOP candidate had a scandal-gambling at Indian casinos under a false name while he was a state legislator, and losing to such an extent that he had judgments against him. He argued he used a false name so as to avoid any perception of attempting to use his state legislative influence improperly, but this scandal was way overblown in my opinon. CT's popular GOP governor asked him to decline the nomination well before the election, which he refused to do.

(4) Basically, the race boiled down to the anti-Joe vs. pro-Joe issue, and Joe persuaded enough people (temporarily) that he had seen the error of his ways and would now start paying more attention to CT and it's issues. The GOP candidate was seen as unelectable spoiler by both camps.


 

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