John McCain is an idiot, is unhappy that "GOP is turning isolationist"

[Anarchist420]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57266.html
WTF is his problem? How much more money and lives does he want to waste?

This is just disgusting, considering the fact that Huntsman and Romney want to bomb the hell out of Iran.

Fortunately, I had the good sense to realize from the beginning that he Obama were one and the same. He's also the one who is antiAmerican, not the antiwar people. And I'm damn glad he lost because if he hadn't fewer people would've woken the hell up.

 

[Vette73]

 

[sao123]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57266.html
WTF is his problem? How much more money and lives does he want to waste?

This is just disgusting, considering the fact that Huntsman and Romney want to bomb the hell out of Iran.

Fortunately, I had the good sense to realize from the beginning that he Obama were one and the same. He's also the one who is antiAmerican, not the antiwar people. And I'm damn glad he lost because if he hadn't fewer people would've woken the hell up.

John McCain is the only one who recognizes that an isloationist policy is our fast trak to becoming a third world country.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yet, you never follow your own advice and post in the thread.

 

[Jaskalas]

John McCain is the only one who recognizes that an isloationist policy is our fast trak to becoming a third world country.

In that case, when do we bomb Iran? More wars the merrier you say?

 

[Thump553]

Often you see posts by apparent isolationists along the lines of why don't we invade Syria (or Bahrain) since we are bombing in Libya. Those people, I think, are more motivated by their hatred of Obama and anything he does than any sort of thought-out world view.

Others, because of the wasteful and damaging direction our foreign policy took with the neocon's misguided adventure into Iraq (and the subsequent dropping of the ball in Afganistan, which we are paying mightily for now) are extremely gunshy about any new overseas military involvement. It is those people about whom McCain was speaking. In Libya we sided with backing a popular uprising in a major oil producing country run by a dictator who for decades actively ran terrorist operations against the USA and others. This is a golden opportunity to use our military might to improve the USA's moral standing in the world and have more influence over that oil producing region. It is these people to whom McCain is speaking, and he is right in this case.

Others, like the OP, are strict libertarian isolationists who live in a fantasy world and think that everything will be roses forever without any war-that the countries (and forces like AQ) antagonistic to the USA will somehow vanish if we stop actively opposing them. McCain was not speaking to this tiny minority-nothing will ever change their minds.

Congrats to the OP for finally posting a reasonably intelligent thread.

 

[xj0hnx]

John McCain is the only one who recognizes that an isloationist policy is our fast trak to becoming a third world country.

Are you yet another in a long line that confuses non-interventalism with isolationism? Projecting military strength, starting wars, and occupying foreign countries is not the only way of having a non-isolationist policy.

 

[shira]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57266.html

Fortunately, I had the good sense to realize from the beginning that he Obama were one and the same.

"Fortunately?" Why don't you explain to us how this knowledge has made a difference, ANY difference?

 

[nageov3t]

he's got a point, but that's not to say that Obama shouldn't think about the fact that Mr. Bomb, Bomb Iran is his number 1 foreign policy supporter and take a long, hard look in the mirror.

 

[sportage]

Is this the same McCain that brought us The Sarah Palin Show?
(something I will NEVER forgive him for, btw.....)

Every time I want to hate Sarah, roll my eyes or toss something at her face on tv, I refocus my anger to John McCain.

Think of McCain as the single guy that brought the black plague to your neighborhood.
Which is almost as bad as what he has done to the country, all for some cheap election stunt.

 

[MotF Bane]

/thread

 

[Craig234]

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.

 

[Macamus Prime]

How much more money and lives does he want to waste?

All of them.

 

[werepossum]

Often you see posts by apparent isolationists along the lines of why don't we invade Syria (or Bahrain) since we are bombing in Libya. Those people, I think, are more motivated by their hatred of Obama and anything he does than any sort of thought-out world view.

Others, because of the wasteful and damaging direction our foreign policy took with the neocon's misguided adventure into Iraq (and the subsequent dropping of the ball in Afganistan, which we are paying mightily for now) are extremely gunshy about any new overseas military involvement. It is those people about whom McCain was speaking. In Libya we sided with backing a popular uprising in a major oil producing country run by a dictator who for decades actively ran terrorist operations against the USA and others. This is a golden opportunity to use our military might to improve the USA's moral standing in the world and have more influence over that oil producing region. It is these people to whom McCain is speaking, and he is right in this case.

Others, like the OP, are strict libertarian isolationists who live in a fantasy world and think that everything will be roses forever without any war-that the countries (and forces like AQ) antagonistic to the USA will somehow vanish if we stop actively opposing them. McCain was not speaking to this tiny minority-nothing will ever change their minds.

Congrats to the OP for finally posting a reasonably intelligent thread.

Unlike Iraq, which was an illegal war for oil against a country helping us fight terrorism and ruined American's standing in the world, right?

I guess the lesson here is that if you're a dictator, make absolutely sure that you keep your subjects so viciously repressed that any "popular uprisings" are firmly squashed before a Democrat gets back in the White House and war becomes holy again. The Iraqi Kurds and Shi'ites are probably going to want a bit of explanation though as to why they were allowed to be massacred whist the Libyans are worthy of support. Come to think of it, there're probably some questions from the people of Ivory Coast, Tunisia, Syria . . .

Anyone wanting to be thought as more than a mindless party drone needs to have a damned good reason to support Iraq and oppose Libya, or vice versa.

 

[Anarchist420]

What really pisses me off is that Dr. Paul is not getting the credit that he deserves.

I guess if the GOP truly does turn antiwar yet doesn't vote for Dr. Paul, then I guess it's because the GOP voters love their entitlements and corporate welfare. I fucking hate the mainstream media for never giving Dr. Paul the credit he deserves.

Still, I don't think Romney could ever be antiwar anyway if given the oppurtunity to stage a false flag attack so that he could send Americans to defend his one true love.