John McCain about the MoveOn.org superbowl ads

sMiLeYz

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Found this in a Christian Politics forum, no url I'm afraid, I'm suprised how many Christians abhor Bush.
where it was posted originally


[/quote]john mccain and moveon

in regards to cbs blocking moveons ad from being shown during the superbowl john mccain had this to say



In the words of Senator McCain:

Remarkable.

It is clear from the examples, such as the rejection of MoveOn.org's ad, that CBS and other media companies are dominant in a marketplace that exercises vast influence over what the American people can see on television. This is exhibit A in the case against media concentration.

Too much power has been given to media executives who now are going to pick and choose and censor the content of political material which we as Americans can see. They can decide on one hand that their friends will be favored with ads and then reject ads critical of their political friends as just too controversial for America to witness.

That is exactly what they have done on this MoveOn.org ad. CBS is able to reject MoveOn.org and anyone else whose views they disagree with because the executives know there are thousands of other companies standing in line ready to pay for ads during the Super Bowl.

It all comes down to this: Through years of deregulation, we have created a situation in America where massive media conglomerates, such as CBS, are operating without any effective oversight and with little or no feeling of responsibility to the public.

It used to be people remembered that the airwaves these TV stations use don't belong to these TV stations, they don't belong to the media giants, such as Viacom, they don't belong to CBS. They belong to you, me, and every American. We allow these companies to use the airwaves, and they make a fortune. We licensed them for that purpose. We used to say, before the Reagan administration changed the law: If you are going to use America's airwaves, you have to be fair in the use of the airwaves. The fairness doctrine was thrown out. Now the only standard is that they only have to serve the public interest.

It is such a vague term, "serve the public interest," that CBS, undoubtedly, can get by with rejecting ads for political reasons, such as their rejection of this MoveOn.org ad. But if the public interest standard is to mean anything, it must require broadcast licensees to air diverse points of view on issues of national interest.

It is all right for me as an American to watch something on television with which, frankly, I disagree. Maybe I want to pick up the phone and call the station manager or register my complaint with one group or the other. Isn't that what free speech in America is all about? Not from CBS's point of view. From the CBS point of view, they will pick and choose what you can watch. Ads for beer with young folks doing things which maybe you don't want your children to see--not controversial. Ads by pharmaceutical companies for sexual dysfunction drugs you may not want your children to watch--not controversial. But an ad which says that our children are going to pay off a $1 trillion national debt created by this administration--over the line, way too scandalous, way too controversial. Children and good American families should not be subjected to that, in the eyes of CBS. I certainly disagree.

Broadcasters and executives running broadcast stations should remember that, first and foremost, they are journalists. They have a responsibility to the American people to speak the truth, to give us the information and let us decide. They have a professional and ethical obligation to be fair and balanced, even if it means they have to set aside their own political views and prejudices and perhaps--perhaps--just once in a while, step on the toes of their political allies and friends, even the ones who just handsomely rewarded them with the provision in the recent appropriations bill.

While broadcasters may wish to exercise their discretion in selecting ads that would run afoul of a community's decency standards, broadcasters should not and must not become censors of content. That is the fundamental promise of the first amendment. It is wrong for the Government to censor content. It is wrong for corporate stewards of our public airwaves to do so.

If you believe, after watching this ad by MoveOn.org, that CBS was wrong, that CBS should have allowed this ad, which shows children at work and says, in its closing frame, "Guess who's going to pay off President Bush's $1 trillion deficit?"--if you think CBS made a mistake, you have a right, as an American, to contact them. You can write to them at: CBS Television Network, 51 West 52nd Street, New York, NY, 10019, or you can call them: (212) 975-4321. Ask to talk to the corporate executive who decided this ad was too controversial for your family to see. Make certain they understand, as I feel and hope you feel, that America is ready for an ad which tells the truth, an ad which may be controversial in the eyes of one political party but certainly deserves to be aired so the public can finally decide what is right and what is wrong.

I hope the American people will not sit idly by and watch as these media giants, such as CBS, become bigger, more powerful, and decide just exactly what we as Americans will get to see on TV.

I urge everyone watching to call CBS and remind the executive that you, the American people, are the owners of the American public airwaves.

For CBS, let me say this: The CBS eye has been closed to truth, closed to fairness, closed to presenting the facts honestly to the American people. CBS has a great legacy. It is a storied name when it comes to public information in America. This chapter is sad and disgraceful. Mr. President, I yield the floor.[/quote]
 

mfs378

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You know, if he didn't campaign for Bush I might even be convinced that he is a decent guy.
 

DanJ

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McCain is a good guy, too bad Bush and Rove hadn't run a dishonest smear campaign on him.

There's no way in hell I'd help him in re-election if I was him. But to each their own.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: preslove
Yep, the wrong guy got the republican nomination.
In spite of his support for the Iraq invasion, I like McCain. He's not perfect, but he seems to be about 30 notches higher on the integrity scale than your average D.C. politician.

 

Moonbeam

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I have repeatedly said this guy is worthless. I can't bring myself to believe he's worth the reversal of a Moonbeam decision.
 

Mill

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Where and when did McCain say this, and when did the Constitution say that free speech HAD to be given a voice by a Corporate Entity?
 

Mill

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Wow, a bunch of BS here. John McCain didn't say any of what sMiLeYz posted, except for the word remarkable. This is how gossip, rumors, and BS get started people!

The following is a transcript from Senator Durbin's speech on the Senate floor, 1/27/04

Listen to what our colleague, Senator JOHN MCCAIN of Arizona, said about this provision that was sneaked into this bill at the last minute to benefit Viacom and CBS, the biggest corporate favor they could ever ask for. I am quoting my colleague, Senator JOHN MCCAIN, who said on the floor:

This provision is objectionable because while purporting to address public concerns about excessive media consolidation, it really only addresses the concerns of special interests. It is no coincidence, my friends--

And this is JOHN MCCAIN speaking--

that the 39 percent is the exact ownership percentage of Viacom and CBS. Why did they pick 39 percent? So that these two major conglomerates would be grandfathered in, purportedly, in order to reduce the media ownership, which was voted down 55 to 40 in the Senate. The fact is now they are endorsing Viacom and CBS's 39 percent ownership, grandfathering them in because they should have been at 35 percent.

In the words of Senator McCain:

Remarkable.
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McCain had 5 sentences and it was QUOTED by Durbin that he said that. You people need to vet your sources before you start looking like an ass on this forum. sMiLeYz, you need to edit your thread title, or post only what McCain said. He said NOTHING above MoveOn.

"that the 39 percent is the exact ownership percentage of Viacom and CBS. Why did they pick 39 percent? So that these two major conglomerates would be grandfathered in, purportedly, in order to reduce the media ownership, which was voted down 55 to 40 in the Senate. The fact is now they are endorsing Viacom and CBS's 39 percent ownership, grandfathering them in because they should have been at 35 percent."

and

"Remarkable"

Have NOTHING to do with MoveOn, the SuperBowl or the ads. The only way you can tie it together is that he said something negative about CBS. Big whoops. Another day; another post of filthy inaccurate information on AT P&N. I'm not saying you did it on purpose sMiLeYz, but you SHOULD have researched it before posting it. In fact, sMiLeYz, you should post the link you got this form, because I can't really believe someone on another forum could be this stupid and that the mindless lemmings would follow it.
 

Dissipate

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I was suspicious myself. Good detective work, Mill. Now why did you change your avatar? You used to have the parrot.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
I was suspicious myself. Good detective work, Mill. Now why did you change your avatar? You used to have the parrot.

I had the Raven before the Parrot, but the Parrot was less appealing to my eyes.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Dissipate
I was suspicious myself. Good detective work, Mill. Now why did you change your avatar? You used to have the parrot.

I had the Raven before the Parrot, but the Parrot was less appealing to my eyes.

Ah I see. You a fan of McCain? He came to my house once when my parents were holding a political fundraiser. I talked to him for awhile. Nice guy, I wish he had won the nomination.