John Kerry has good intentions

Dari

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Kerry's Good Intentions

In 1998, John Kerry took on the teachers' unions. In twin speeches in Washington and Massachusetts, he described school systems that are "imploding upon themselves," beset with "bloated bureaucracy" and "stagnant administration." He said we had to "end tenure as we know it" so incompetent teachers could be fired more easily.

"Those going into teaching have the lowest SAT and ACT scores of any profession in the United States," he observed. The teacher certification process, he concluded, is "an absurd anomaly" that creates a "convoluted monopolistic structure." He suggested that every school should be turned into a charter school so parents would have more choice.

In 1992, John Kerry took on civil rights groups. In speeches at Yale and in Washington, he said affirmative action had achieved many positive results. But he said it was time to acknowledge the costs. Once, he said, the civil rights movement was a "mighty battle between good and evil," but now the "civil rights arena is controlled by lawyers, [with] the winners and losers determined by rules most Americans neither understand nor are sympathetic with."

Affirmative action, he argued, "has kept America thinking in racial terms." It has helped foster a "culture of dependency." Further, he said, "there exists a reality of reverse discrimination that actually engenders racism."

Thinking more broadly, he described crime-ridden neighborhoods "ruled not simply by poverty but by savagery." The crime rate, he continued, is "the most deadly poison there is to improved relations between black and white Americans." He asked how was it that the percentage of black children living with both parents through the age of 17 had gone to 6 percent from 50 percent?

Sounding like William Bennett, he declared, "We have to ask ourselves in 1992 whether this social disintegration is merely a symptom of deteriorating values that has swept all of this country to some degree. We must ask whether it is the result of a massive shift in the psychology of our nation that some argue grew out of the excesses of the 1960's, a shift from self-reliance to indulgence and dependence, from caring to self-indulgence, from public accountability to public abdication and chaos."

These are not the only times John Kerry has uttered what are, for a liberal Democrat, heterodox ideas. Kerry has argued that the Social Security system is unsustainable. He has called for unpopular reforms, including raising the retirement age and means-testing the benefits. He has argued that the U.S. should declare war on international crime cartels, and consider shooting down airplanes suspected of drug-running. He has argued that the gasoline tax should be raised by 50 cents a gallon.

If you look back over the span of John Kerry's career, you find that every few months or years he takes a hard look at some thorny public issue. Then, after some period of reflection, he unleashes his inner Moynihan and comes out with an interesting and politically dangerous speech.

The problem is that he almost never follows up. When he makes these speeches he habitually asserts that he will mount a long public crusade. But then he takes his controversial ideas, jams them into a jar and buries them in the backyard.

If you watch him campaign today, you will have no clue that he has ever had interesting thoughts on education, civil rights, poverty and so on. On these and other issues, he campaigns as an orthodox Democrat, comfortably in tune with Ted Kennedy and the party's major interest groups. Far from continuing in the reformist vein when it comes to education, he has a core platform plank that is pure pander: "Stop Blaming and Start Supporting Public School Educators."

Were these speeches just cynical efforts to inoculate himself from the charge that he's a conventional Massachusetts liberal?

Both John McCain and John Kerry nearly died in Vietnam. Both say that these experiences have made every day that has followed feel like an gift from God, and that they are going to take this extra time to do what is right. The difference is that once McCain latches onto an issue, like campaign finance reform, he sticks with it year after year.

John Kerry doesn't. He will momentarily embrace daring ideas, but if they threaten core constituencies, he often abandons them, returning meekly to the Democratic choir.

That is the difference between speechifying and leadership.

 

CanOWorms

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Why should we care about SAT and ACT scores of teachers? Those are for college admissions and shouldn't follow you for life.
 

Cerb

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The candidate running for his party is not the candidate running for nomination.
The candidate running for president is not the candidate running for nomination.
The President elected is not the candidate you voted for, he just has the same body.
Such is politics.
 

Bleep

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John Kerry doesn't. He will momentarily embrace daring ideas, but if they threaten core constituencies
E Gads I thought that is what our elected representatives are supposed to do, the will of those that he represents instead of his own.

Bleep
 

Zephyr106

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No. We're supposed to have politicians of integrity who won't give in to the whims and silly passing notions of the plebians. Politicians who will propose marriage promotion programs and space odeseys in the face of huge deficits, politicians who will propose legalizing illegal aliens in spite of their party's views, politicians who will invade other countries regardless of silly notions like evidence and allies. People of integrity and resolute granite character must rule this nation, and disregard the opinions and ideas of the citizens.

Zephyr
 

Tripleshot

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Originally posted by: Zephyr106
No. We're supposed to have politicians of integrity who won't give in to the whims and silly passing notions of the plebians. Politicians who will propose marriage promotion programs and space odeseys in the face of huge deficits, politicians who will propose legalizing illegal aliens in spite of their party's views, politicians who will invade other countries regardless of silly notions like evidence and allies. People of integrity and resolute granite character must rule this nation, and disregard the opinions and ideas of the citizens.

Zephyr








ouch;)
 

chess9

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More reasons to vote for Dean. :)

But, whoever is nominated, I'd love too see Bush colored GONE.

Kerry is not the kind of fiscal conserative Dean is. That is my main gripe with Kerry.

Also, he's taking this WAR HERO crap way too far. I know literally hundreds of Marine buddies who ought to be wearing the Silver Star, but aren't. Those guys pulled duty every hour of every day that would have most guys on this forum puking in 5 minutes. I am grateful for his service. But he should keep his F++++++ mouth shut about it. It turns me off. I'll take the draft dodging Dean any day. And Edwards is my runner up. At least this morning.... :)

-Robert
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: chess9
More reasons to vote for Dean. :)

But, whoever is nominated, I'd love too see Bush colored GONE.

Kerry is not the kind of fiscal conserative Dean is. That is my main gripe with Kerry.

Also, he's taking this WAR HERO crap way too far. I know literally hundreds of Marine buddies who ought to be wearing the Silver Star, but aren't. Those guys pulled duty every hour of every day that would have most guys on this forum puking in 5 minutes. I am grateful for his service. But he should keep his F++++++ mouth shut about it. It turns me off. I'll take the draft dodging Dean any day. And Edwards is my runner up. At least this morning.... :)

-Robert

Kerry is not a man of action. He's a professional riler.
 

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WHICH KERRY DO YOU LIKE?

http://nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200401260838.asp

RICH LOWRY, NATIONAL REVIEW - Today's Kerry excoriates Attorney General John Ashcroft for violating American civil liberties with his evil tool, the Patriot Act. "We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night," Kerry huffs. "So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time." Maybe Kerry should have thought about that before voting for the Patriot Act in 2001 - since laws and liberties are pretty important and all.
Back before he had to worry about competing with one Howard Brush Dean, Kerry was positively delighted by the Patriot Act. "It reflects," he said on the Senate floor, "an enormous amount of hard work by the members of the Senate Banking Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee. I congratulate them and thank them for that work." While supportive of "sunset" provisions in the bill, Kerry pronounced himself "pleased at the compromise we have reached on the anti-terrorism legislation." These are not the words of a man about to help inaugurate an era of brown-shirt law enforcement.
John Kerry, A.D. (After Dean), attacks President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act as "one-size-fits-all testing mania." Worse, according to Kerry, "By signing the No Child Left Behind Act and then breaking his promise by not giving schools the resources to help meet new standards, George Bush has undermined public education and left millions of children behind." The funding charge is a canard - overall spending on education under Bush is up 65 percent - but it gives Kerry a way to join the Dean-led assault on the act, which he voted for - enthusiastically.
"This is groundbreaking legislation," John Kerry, B.D. (Before Dean), gushed on the Senate floor, "that enhances the federal government's commitment to our nation's public education system ... and embraces many of the principles and programs that I believe are critical to improving the public education system." He didn't just support the bill, he took credit for it: "Last year I worked with 10 of my Democratic colleagues to introduce legislation that would help break the stalemate and move
beyond the tired, partisan debates of the past. Our education proposal became the foundation of the bill before us today."
As for the North American Free Trade Agreement, the target of Dean and other liberal critics, Kerry promises to "fix it." The agreement supposedly doesn't do enough to keep Mexico from employing low-wage workers, thus encouraging jobs to leave the United States and depressing wages here. True to form, he used to love the trade deal. "NAFTA is not the problem," he explained in 1993. "Job loss is taking place without NAFTA."
 

chess9

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He was only interested in pleasing his constituency when he voted for that turkey. Now he has to please the base of the Democratic Party. Also, the country was in a mood for ACTION at the time that bill was passed. We've cooled off a bit now that we know that turkey is filled with wire taps. :) Ditto for the war.

Anyway, this stuff makes Kerry look as bad as Clark the Opportunist. But, if we are going to beat Bush we may have to settle for someone like this. Dean's numbers are looking awful today.... Neel has his hands full.

But, I see CAD is sending Dean money, so we're making progress. :) :)

-Robert
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: chess9
He was only interested in pleasing his constituency when he voted for that turkey. Now he has to please the base of the Democratic Party. Also, the country was in a mood for ACTION at the time that bill was passed. We've cooled off a bit now that we know that turkey is filled with wire taps. :) Ditto for the war.

Anyway, this stuff makes Kerry look as bad as Clark the Opportunist. But, if we are going to beat Bush we may have to settle for someone like this. Dean's numbers are looking awful today.... Neel has his hands full.

But, I see CAD is sending Dean money, so we're making progress. :) :)

-Robert

Maybe he's sending him money so that the Dean circus can extend its lifeline? That would create massive confusion in the primaries, seeing that Dean is a loose cannon.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: chess9
He was only interested in pleasing his constituency when he voted for that turkey. Now he has to please the base of the Democratic Party. Also, the country was in a mood for ACTION at the time that bill was passed. We've cooled off a bit now that we know that turkey is filled with wire taps. :) Ditto for the war.

Anyway, this stuff makes Kerry look as bad as Clark the Opportunist. But, if we are going to beat Bush we may have to settle for someone like this. Dean's numbers are looking awful today.... Neel has his hands full.

But, I see CAD is sending Dean money, so we're making progress. :) :)

-Robert

Maybe he's sending him money so that the Dean circus can extend its lifeline? That would create massive confusion in the primaries, seeing that Dean is a loose cannon.

Since when did people get the idea I am sending money to the dean campaign?
I'm pretty sure I could find better ways to waste my money:p

CkG