John Bolton now linked to Cambridge Analytica

Jaskalas

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Bannon's baby is connected to all sorts of right and alt-right wingers? Shocker!
So?
 
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What a nice looking burger

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Only the best burgers for this administration.:p

Those look pretty well done too

Full disclosure: I occasionally like a burger that is cooked well done, dryness sucks but the crunchy outside is spectacular occasionally
 
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Amused

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The GOP is now being controlled by radical super PACs that have no problem with "ends justify the means" ideology over facts. They do not believe to gain power and further their ideology they are obliged to live within the confines of the morality they preach. Therefore they do not feel bound by ethics, morality or honesty whatsoever.

It has literally been taken over by psychopaths and converted to a religion.
 

Jhhnn

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The Republican Party is a massive Mafia operation that campaigns on every family and religious moral outrage while violating all of them.

It's been that way since Newt's contract on America & probably before.
 
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It's been that way since Newt's contract on America & probably before.

Definitely before. People like Nixon (and even other horrible people) were pushing that type of garbage (sadly, he was even getting Eisenhower to sign off on stuff like that too) decades before then. Its just that we've often had other things to collectively be concerned about (post WWII world, nuclear war, Cold War, various actual wars that grew out of that, and then gas crisis and economic issues). The thing is, if you look at things objectively, you see all of that actually leads back to conservatives/Republicans and the wealthy that were manipulating everything.

I know people want to believe things are worse in regards to the rhetoric and other stuff, but they really aren't (it kinda ebbs and flows, but its been there pretty consistently, which periods where it reaches a fervor). Its just that given history, its easier to see how toxic that stuff was and is, and how it actively works against human interest. This is the same mentality that gave us McCarthy's bullshit, the anti-Civil Rights mentality, the "race wars are coming!" idiocy, the "its the Mexicans/Muslims/Soviets!" scaremongering, among various others that I'm sure you can probably think of or see.

The reason things seem different is that, via various means (including outright lies) they used to get some on both sides of political ideology on board, but now even Centrists see it for the bullshit it is (but its still hard to get people to actually put the brakes on it, as its easy to buy into the "well if you don't fall in line and support it, it will just increase its chance of failure, hurting us/America more, even if its completely wrong, its better that we unite to "win" than since its gonna happen anyway). That's not to say it can't still work, like with the 2016 election, but look what it took to enable that. It took one of, if not the most, widespread disinformation campaign in human history (well at least per relatively specific instance, not the sustained ones that; which even then you could argue its a continuation of several of the long-sustained ones that coalesced into a singular goal).

In a lot of ways, its a testament to how much smarter people are compared to even 50 years ago. And that, even though it can be used for nefarious intent, the technology has actually worked some, where people are more informed. People bemoan how many willfully stupid people there are, but they were always there, but now they have to do that in the face of a barrage of actual information and knowledge, and it is working. Yes, for many they're in that transition phase where they're so locked in mentally, that contradictory information makes them more stubborn and resolute.
 

ivwshane

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So maddow just summed up the latest in the latest drama that is the trump administration by completing a little bit more of the big picture.

So we are all aware that Cambridge analytica used unauthorized data from Facebook to target potential trump voters and that it is owned by mercer and once ran by bannon. What we found out today via their former data guy Christopher Wylie is that they basically funneled money to campaigns by way of investments into their company by donors. So if someone wanted to help a campaign (and this wasn't just in the US) the donor would "invest" in CA and CA would do the rest (and it appears they did a lot). This means that there wasn't any of that normally required reporting of who the donors were and it allowed foreigners to donating unlimited sums of money to pretty much any campaign. Of course that's illegal.

But that's not all. Apparently the money was then funneled into, wait for it, John Bolton's super pac, you know, the newly nominated secretary of state.

Its starting to get pretty clear why Republicans have been eerily silent on this trump Russia matter and going so far as to sabotage it. Because it's bigger than just trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/26/cam...f-violating-election-law-by-common-cause.html

I don't have a link to her story so hopefully I summed it up good enough.

Mercer is turning out to be quite the villain.
 

UNCjigga

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Mercer is turning out to be quite the villain.
At some point I will have to dive into researching how much power and influence the Kochs, Mercers, Bezos'es and Soros'es actually wield in American politics. But I fear that's not a journey one can take without putting on a tinfoil hat first...
 

Greenman

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So maddow just summed up the latest in the latest drama that is the trump administration by completing a little bit more of the big picture.

So we are all aware that Cambridge analytica used unauthorized data from Facebook to target potential trump voters and that it is owned by mercer and once ran by bannon. What we found out today via their former data guy Christopher Wylie is that they basically funneled money to campaigns by way of investments into their company by donors. So if someone wanted to help a campaign (and this wasn't just in the US) the donor would "invest" in CA and CA would do the rest (and it appears they did a lot). This means that there wasn't any of that normally required reporting of who the donors were and it allowed foreigners to donating unlimited sums of money to pretty much any campaign. Of course that's illegal.

But that's not all. Apparently the money was then funneled into, wait for it, John Bolton's super pac, you know, the newly nominated secretary of state.

Its starting to get pretty clear why Republicans have been eerily silent on this trump Russia matter and going so far as to sabotage it. Because it's bigger than just trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/26/cam...f-violating-election-law-by-common-cause.html

I don't have a link to her story so hopefully I summed it up good enough.

Mercer is turning out to be quite the villain.
The issue I have with all of this is that it's so convoluted, and there is a ton of speculation involved. I'd really like so see the investigation concluded and all of the actual evidence laid out.
 

Jaskalas

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ivwshane

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You didn't. Russia's connection to CA is, what?

I didn't make a connection to CA and Russia so why are you asking?

If I had to guess though, I would say CA was the go between and money handler but that's just a guess.
 

Puffnstuff

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So maddow just summed up the latest in the latest drama that is the trump administration by completing a little bit more of the big picture.

So we are all aware that Cambridge analytica used unauthorized data from Facebook to target potential trump voters and that it is owned by mercer and once ran by bannon. What we found out today via their former data guy Christopher Wylie is that they basically funneled money to campaigns by way of investments into their company by donors. So if someone wanted to help a campaign (and this wasn't just in the US) the donor would "invest" in CA and CA would do the rest (and it appears they did a lot). This means that there wasn't any of that normally required reporting of who the donors were and it allowed foreigners to donating unlimited sums of money to pretty much any campaign. Of course that's illegal.

But that's not all. Apparently the money was then funneled into, wait for it, John Bolton's super pac, you know, the newly nominated secretary of state.

Its starting to get pretty clear why Republicans have been eerily silent on this trump Russia matter and going so far as to sabotage it. Because it's bigger than just trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/26/cam...f-violating-election-law-by-common-cause.html

I don't have a link to her story so hopefully I summed it up good enough.

Mercer is turning out to be quite the villain.
I started a thread last week on how Bolton and CA were joined at the money hip through his PAC.
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/john-bolton-now-linked-to-cambridge-analytica.2541358/

Is this the Maddow story you were looking for?
 
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ivwshane

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cytg111

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At some point I will have to dive into researching how much power and influence the Kochs, Mercers, Bezos'es and Soros'es actually wield in American politics. But I fear that's not a journey one can take without putting on a tinfoil hat first...
Dude, combined they are running the show.