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MomentsofSanity

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No one who wants abortions funded will vote for Trump. Moderates who don’t want the gov paying for them might be open to the status quo as opposed to the full on ban that the gop is trying lately.

It’s the safe position on a hot button issue.
 
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It's much cheaper to fund an abortion that it is to pay to raise a child from prenatal care until they are 18. You also have to take into consideration the environmental impact of another human on this planet.
 
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Lifer
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MomentsofSanity said:
No one who wants abortions funded will vote for Trump. Moderates who don’t want the gov paying for them might be open to the status quo as opposed to the full on ban that the gop is trying lately.

It’s the safe position on a hot button issue.
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I think this could get him primaried out.
 
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Ajay

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balloonshark said:
It's much cheaper to fund an abortion that it is to pay to raise a child from prenatal care until they are 18. You also have to take into consideration the environmental impact of another human on this planet.
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Uh, kinda of dark viewpoint.
 
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TheVrolok

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MomentsofSanity said:
No one who wants abortions funded will vote for Trump. Moderates who don’t want the gov paying for them might be open to the status quo as opposed to the full on ban that the gop is trying lately.

It’s the safe position on a hot button issue.
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Exactly this.
 
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vi edit

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Yeah so long as he supports the choice being available and is still pro-education/contraception/female health and well being he gains more than he loses with this particular stance.
 
Blackjack200

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MomentsofSanity said:
No one who wants abortions funded will vote for Trump. Moderates who don’t want the gov paying for them might be open to the status quo as opposed to the full on ban that the gop is trying lately.

It’s the safe position on a hot button issue.
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vi edit said:
Yeah so long as he supports the choice being available and is still pro-education/contraception/female health and well being he gains more than he loses with this particular stance.
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Yeah, great plan. Remember when Hillary Clinton beat Trump by appealing to moderates and suburban Republicans since no one else was going to vote for Trump anyway?

Man, that was awesome.
 
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Moonbeam

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I would say fuck him and the horse he road in on if it were just a safe position on a hot button issue, but I take into consideration that he's a Catholic and his position is perfectly consistent with that religious faith on moral grounds. I don't agree with his position but I can't dock him for political expedience.
 
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Sgt. York

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No, I think that verse was, "If you have two children and meet a person with no children, you should give them one of your children."
 
hal2kilo

hal2kilo

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Oh goody just what I was looking forward to, more of the same, yea, stay in the safe center. Welcome to Trump 2020.
Wish their were more women participating in this site.
 
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Blackjack200 said:
Yeah, great plan. Remember when Hillary Clinton beat Trump by appealing to moderates and suburban Republicans since no one else was going to vote for Trump anyway?

Man, that was awesome.
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Remember when people throw protest votes to third party candidates and Johnson & Stein get 280,000 votes and Trump won Florida by less than 120,000 votes?
Remember Trump winning Michigan by 10,000 votes and Johnson and Stein getting 220,000 votes?

You aren't going to get a perfect candidate. Sometimes you have to just take the least worse. Or else you get worse.
 
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hal2kilo

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vi edit said:
Remember when people throw protest votes to third party candidates and Johnson & Stein get 280,000 votes and Trump won Florida by less than 120,000 votes?
Remember Trump winning Michigan by 10,000 votes and Johnson and Stein getting 220,000 votes?

You aren't going to get a perfect candidate. Sometimes you have to just take the least worse. Or else you get worse.
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Women healcare rights are being throw out the window left and right at this very moment. This isn't an opinion, this is fact. This is not the time for fucking appeasement with this issue and Biden's going to lose alot of women with this bullshit.
 
jackstar7

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The risk of depressing Dem women voters is real if this old dude gets the nod.
 
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jackstar7

Lifer
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hal2kilo said:
Absolutely, I really hope he keeps it up. Really have to put up with him to get Pennsyvania, really?
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He should have endorsed Warren rather than run himself.

The ego on many of these people is absurd. Dems need the Senate and Executive, not a clown show.
 
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hal2kilo

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jackstar7 said:
He should have endorsed Warren rather than run himself.

The ego on many of these people is absurd. Dems need the Senate and Executive, not a clown show.
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Seems the old guard in any party needs to hang on for dear life. Time to move on.
 
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soulcougher73

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balloonshark said:
It's much cheaper to fund an abortion that it is to pay to raise a child from prenatal care until they are 18. You also have to take into consideration the environmental impact of another human on this planet.
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I just think we could use less “in the way people-Bill Burr”
 
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