Job Promotion... i think?

[zaydq]

Hey all,

So i've been with a large propane supplier in Canada now for about 8 months. I recently interviewed for two positions, as I saw I had the skills needed. Ofcourse, that never is enough, and other candidates were selected.

It did not really bug me, as I knew they was a competitive pool of interviewee's. What did bug me, was when my manager, whom interviewed me for both, pretty much told me that he didn't really bother to consider me, because he had a position that he was creating that would better suit my skill set, and the work I do currently.

Over the course of a couple of weeks, he would touch base with me on the progress of having this position created. He got me pretty excited to hear more, but of course, he couldn't say much as of that time. Also, I work a shift of 11:30AM-8:00PM, which I've communicated that although i don't mind it, my preference would be a day time shift, as it would better suit my life style and cater to my performance. (95% of the office is day time, so it isn't like asking for it in a factory).

Now, i was brought in yesterday at 4:00PM. My manager has a large smile and says he has the offer. I was pretty excited to hear what it was. My heart sunk when i read the terms though, because it is NOT what he made it out to be. Essentially, what I was told was I would be more of an analyst for compliance and regulation in Ontario, as the Technical Standards and Safety Authority is riding hard on us. What it ended up being is a glorified inspection coordinator, which is what I currently am, with the same 11:30AM-8:00PM shift, which i currently loathe.

It came with some nice benefits, for example, he gave me a small salary increase, benefits plan, pension, vacation time; everything that I never had in the previous position. But what hurts the most is, upon recommendation from many field managers and project managers, I should have been a favorite for one of the positions i had interviewed for before. They were positions I had experience in, flying recommendations internally, and they came with the desired schedule and salaries I, and others, felt I was worthy of.

So, with all that said. He assured me that my duties will change, as they have never had a position like this before, and he is hoping he can snow ball it into some sort of managerial role within the compliance and regulation side of the business, as stress on that end will only be increasing as the TSSA tightens their fist. I personally, from the track record of statements to real occurrences, call folly.

I should also mention that in the weeks of his updating me of the progress, he had mentioned a straight day time shift, and off the phones. I've received neither, which was a big downer as they were the key benefits I was looking for.

I may also add that ontop of my primary duties, i've developed an excel macro based tool for our Customer Service Representatives, to make their booking of Contractors and our own technicians simpler, by only using the account number of our customer(s). I've done research behind market pricing, and put together a draft proposal for an "Off Oil" campaign, assisted our National Service Analyst in signing on 27 contractors, training them on processes, and getting them officially added to our system.

I've done a lot in 8 months, and they surely do notice, as I am held in a fairly high regard for my pay grade.

Essentially, now that you've read my rant... the gist of it all is I feel a bit cheated, losing out on a position i may or may not have gotten due to a role that ended up not being as expected. Should I stick in there and hope this position evolves to something I would actually enjoy? Or may it be time to attempt to look for another job?

Maybe there are some members who hold a position in management that can decipher what I've written, and possibly offer up something I didn't notice?

 

[uclaLabrat]

See what you can negotiate, but I would try to do that, take the job, and crush it for a few months. After that, see if you can move into something else or get the position adjusted to your preferred schedule. If not, I'd start putting my resume out.

 

[olds]

OP. Go back and finish high school and then go to college. It'll open more doors.

 

[MrDudeMan]

I've been in a similar position. My advice is to keep your head down, work hard, and continue to prove your worth. You've only been there for 8 months, which isn't exactly a long time. While I understand others have spoken positively about your work, time is a big factor.

I don't mean this to be harsh, but the fact that you are considering looking for another job after you were given a promotion is a little immature. You said yourself that the job came with many new benefits. You're acting like you were slighted when you really weren't. So you didn't get everything you want - who does?

You have two choices regarding your work hours. Continue to be bitter about it or make a lifestyle change that accommodates your current situation. I would also continue trying to have it adjusted, but there's no use in convincing yourself that's going to happen. If it does, great, but you have to come to the realization that it may not and then choose accordingly.

I wrote huge programs that hundreds of people used during my first year that had almost nothing to do with my job. It didn't shoot me up the ladder instantly nor should it have. The productivity trend is what your employer wants to see, not the spikes. Writing an excel macro is helpful, but I'm guessing the value add was marginal. That's just how it goes. The real benefit is that you did something extra, which is what will set you apart long term. That kind of behavior starts to gain momentum and people begin to notice.

In short, eight months means you are still a noob. A promo in the first year is substantial, so I'd say be happy and keep working hard.

 

[drinkmorejava]

See what you can negotiate, but I would try to do that, take the job, and crush it for a few months. After that, see if you can move into something else or get the position adjusted to your preferred schedule. If not, I'd start putting my resume out.

This. It's better than what you have now. Yes, you would have liked the other job, but it doesn't always work like that. Crush it for a few months and start pushing for something different. If you're not satisfied, then move on, but bailing because you didn't get as good of a change as you wanted (or maybe should have gotten) doesn't look great.

 

[Puppies04]

Hey all, So i've been with a large propane supplier....

Is this you?

 

[MaxPayne63]

Is this you?

Yep.

 

[MrDudeMan]

This. It's better than what you have now. Yes, you would have liked the other job, but it doesn't always work like that. Crush it for a few months and start pushing for something different. If you're not satisfied, then move on, but bailing because you didn't get as good of a change as you wanted (or maybe should have gotten) doesn't look great.

It also reinforces the reason why most employers won't give promotions this quickly. People who bail because they feel entitled to exactly what they want exactly when they want it are hard to spot sometimes. Don't be that guy.

 

[reallyscrued]

Yeah man, dang ol' anything can happen man, talkin' bout responsibility and seniority man, I tell you what man, take a little of the boss' notice man, hard work and persistence, talking bout do. the. right. thing.

 

[Mixolydian]

Yeah man, dang ol' anything can happen man, talkin' bout responsibility and seniority man, I tell you what man, take a little of the boss' notice man, hard work and persistence, talking bout do. the. right. thing.

ROFL! This made my day.

 

[zaydq]

OP. Go back and finish high school and then go to college. It'll open more doors.

I finished high school. My punctuation and grammar may be poor because I am not natively born in Canada, and my education in Canada only numbers a few years. College will be an option some day, as of right now, it would be difficult.

I've been in a similar position. My advice is to keep your head down, work hard, and continue to prove your worth. You've only been there for 8 months, which isn't exactly a long time. While I understand others have spoken positively about your work, time is a big factor.

I don't mean this to be harsh, but the fact that you are considering looking for another job after you were given a promotion is a little immature. You said yourself that the job came with many new benefits. You're acting like you were slighted when you really weren't. So you didn't get everything you want - who does?

You have two choices regarding your work hours. Continue to be bitter about it or make a lifestyle change that accommodates your current situation. I would also continue trying to have it adjusted, but there's no use in convincing yourself that's going to happen. If it does, great, but you have to come to the realization that it may not and then choose accordingly.

I wrote huge programs that hundreds of people used during my first year that had almost nothing to do with my job. It didn't shoot me up the ladder instantly nor should it have. The productivity trend is what your employer wants to see, not the spikes. Writing an excel macro is helpful, but I'm guessing the value add was marginal. That's just how it goes. The real benefit is that you did something extra, which is what will set you apart long term. That kind of behavior starts to gain momentum and people begin to notice.

In short, eight months means you are still a noob. A promo in the first year is substantial, so I'd say be happy and keep working hard.

Nothing harsh here. I wasn't trying to come off as feeling entitled. I was more so upset of the fact that i was vocally told that this offer was a factor in my previous two interviews, when I feel that it should not have been.

I'm also aware 8 months is not a long time, so I am proud of what I received. My qualms are more so with being told one thing, and then being offered another.

As per the lifestyle change; children are not a variable that can be changed... though it would be nice sometimes .

As per the immature part, i can see your point. I failed to mention that I had been considering a different job role elsewhere for two months now. What stagnated that was the possibility of receiving something that better suited my interests here. Now that that hasn't happened, my interests in seeing what else is out there has peaked again.

It's not the company, the people, or the duties themselves. Its like vacuuming the carpets, i don't particularly want to do it, nor does it excite me, but i do it anyway.

This. It's better than what you have now. Yes, you would have liked the other job, but it doesn't always work like that. Crush it for a few months and start pushing for something different. If you're not satisfied, then move on, but bailing because you didn't get as good of a change as you wanted (or maybe should have gotten) doesn't look great.

Yes, it is better than what I have now... in terms of compensation. I would have liked the other one, but as you said, it does not work that way. I'll just reiterate that I am not considering bailing because I didn't get the change "I wanted", its because I didn't get any change what so ever, contrary to what I had been told in the weeks prior.

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Thank you for the responses. It seems like I didn't communicate my issues properly, but the advice given is relevant none-the-less. With all the opinions here, I think I will stick around at this company for a while longer and see where it goes. My manager has assured me that this position will evolve, as he did not come up with a set of tasks for the role as of yet.

 

[Anonemous]

Yeah man, dang ol' anything can happen man, talkin' bout responsibility and seniority man, I tell you what man, take a little of the boss' notice man, hard work and persistence, talking bout do. the. right. thing.

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