Job predicament

imported_nerve

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I have a situation at work and would like some advice.

I am an onsite Service Technician. I was hired as a full time employee at an IT company and placed onsite at a large company and support their printers, faxes and computer hardware.
The large company where I am onsite approched me about a job offer not related directly to my current job. There is also a 10k increase in pay along with better benefits.

I dont know how I should proceed. I didnt sign a noncompete agreement.
This will not compremise my company and the large companies relationship.
We still have 2 others onsite

Should I talk with my manager and find out if there is a noncompete?
Im sure there isnt, Ill see when i tell him monday.


Let me know what you think!
 

Garet Jax

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Review your employee agreement. Dimes to dollars though there is something to prevent you from accepting this job. It is up to your company to decide whether or not to pursue it.
 

yllus

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I admit to speaking with no experience in the area, but would anyone really force a technician working on generic equipment to sign a non-competitive agreement? I would think that those would be limited to management and those dealing with the company's own intellectual property.
 

Kyteland

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Just ask your current employer for a copy of your file. It will have any documents you signed when you started in it.

If they ask why just say your personal copy got destroyed in a freak accident involving peanut butter and a rabid squirrel. In other words it's none of their business.
 

lytalbayre

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Originally posted by: yllus
I admit to speaking with no experience in the area, but would anyone really force a technician working on generic equipment to sign a non-competitive agreement? I would think that those would be limited to management and those dealing with the company's own intellectual property.

 

HN

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it's what you want to do AND it pays better? turn in your 2 weeks notice...
 

Zenmervolt

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If you're going through an agency, you should be fine taking the job with the company for whom you're on-site.

The company's HR department should know how to handle transitioning a contract employee to an FTE. In my experience, the company will contact the agency and tell them that they are interested in you and want to hire you. Most agencies have some sort of finder's fee built into their agreements with corporations and will be glad to get you hired on full-time, but that's not universal.

ZV
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: yllus
I admit to speaking with no experience in the area, but would anyone really force a technician working on generic equipment to sign a non-competitive agreement? I would think that those would be limited to management and those dealing with the company's own intellectual property.

Of course. Clients pay a premium for this person. They will almost always want to hire them directly since it will be so much cheaper than continuing to pay his employer. They know what they are getting and can even offer more money because they will still end up paying less. Everyone wins except the employer - this is why they protect themselves.
 

habib89

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can't you just quit the old job and get hired at the new company? unless you have some sorta contract with the first company.. what's stopping you from quitting, then just getting rehired by the new company? if you quit, nothing is valid from the first job right? they can't tell you what to do if you don't belong to them
 

DougK62

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I think you should do whatever will help you write understandable sentences with proper punctuation.
 

ScottFern

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You have every right to go to your current boss and let him know you have a better job offer and he has to match it or else your leaving.
 

Sqube

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Talk to your manager.
Hand in your two week notice.
Profit.

This is, of course, assuming that there's no agreement standing in the way of this arrangement. If there is, you're probably screwed. If there isn't... you're in the money.
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: ScottFern
You have every right to go to your current boss and let him know you have a better job offer and he has to match it or else your leaving.

That's not always how it works in the real world.

 

imported_nerve

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Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Originally posted by: yllus
I admit to speaking with no experience in the area, but would anyone really force a technician working on generic equipment to sign a non-competitive agreement? I would think that those would be limited to management and those dealing with the company's own intellectual property.

Of course. Clients pay a premium for this person. They will almost always want to hire them directly since it will be so much cheaper than continuing to pay his employer. They know what they are getting and can even offer more money because they will still end up paying less. Everyone wins except the employer - this is why they protect themselves.


The job offer isnt directly related to what my current responsablities are. This job also doesnt or shouldnt interfere with the relationship they have. If I did take the job there is still my other co-workers onsite there is 3 of us. They dont want to hire me to get rid of my employer.
That being said I think im in the clear I just didnt want to give my notice then find out there is a clause with my departure and will then feel okward when I have to stay (this happened to me once)
 

xgsound

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As an on-site repair tech your current position is far from secure. That is a big plus for the new job in a big company. Tell the big company that you're interested as soon as they can create a smooth transition.

The big company is the one that wants you and needs your current employer too. Your current employer wants to keep the company as a customer. You want a better job. Everybody is an interested party. There is no reason this shouldn't go well if the big company calls your current employer.


Jim
 

xgsound

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: ScottFern
You have every right to go to your current boss and let him know you have a better job offer and he has to match it or else your leaving.

That's not always how it works in the real world.


Although it should be phrased more tactfully, that is exactly how the real world works. Just be sure the new job is real before starting to bargain.

In this case it doesn't directly apply because as an on-site third party tech, he has no job security. The big company could get a new vendor at any time.
 

imported_nerve

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Originally posted by: xgsound
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: ScottFern
You have every right to go to your current boss and let him know you have a better job offer and he has to match it or else your leaving.

That's not always how it works in the real world.


Although it should be phrased more tactfully, that is exactly how the real world works. Just be sure the new job is real before starting to bargain.

In this case it doesn't directly apply because as an on-site third party tech, he has no job security. The big company could get a new vendor at any time.



Thanks for your input. I want the new job no matter what so there is no room for bargaining. Im sure they can find a replacement for me by someone else. I felt I was being under paid hugly and when my review came along it was "You're doing an excellent job, there is no complaints I have nothing bad to say keep up the good work" oh and ur getting the current CPI 2.9%.

I am 22 years old and feel this is a impact come review time and affects the outcome.
At my previous employer I went for a raise and he handed me some change, I didnt accept it because my responsibilities were worth more than 12 bucks an hour. He said " you're only 20 what kind of bills do you have to pay to need that much money for"

So i have crap luck with jobs and this new one is the best one yet
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: nerve
I have a situation at work and would like some advice.

I am an onsite Service Technician. I was hired as a full time employee at an IT company and placed onsite at a large company and support their printers, faxes and computer hardware.
The large company where I am onsite approched me about a job offer not related directly to my current job. There is also a 10k increase in pay along with better benefits.

I dont know how I should proceed. I didnt sign a noncompete agreement.
This will not compremise my company and the large companies relationship.
We still have 2 others onsite

Should I talk with my manager and find out if there is a noncompete?
Im sure there isnt, Ill see when i tell him monday.


Let me know what you think!

seriously, you are a pc tech, no one will care even if there is a non-compete, you most likely don't have a functional knowledge of any sensitive information.