Job Losses Unsettle Republicans - as does Iraq

[BOBDN]

Twin problems all of the Bush administration's making. Sooner or later the rest of America will wake up to reality.

From the Washington Post

Job Losses Unsettle Republicans

"GOP Lawmakers Don't Want Voters' Blame for Economy"

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"Congressional Republicans are watching warily as President Bush's approval ratings slide on two major issues -- the economy and Iraq -- and wondering if voter anxiety might cost them seats in next year's election."

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"In a memo to House members last week, GOP Conference Chairman Deborah Pryce (Ohio) said Republicans face a "rough communications terrain," especially concerning the economy. "The issue of the economy is more important than ever," she wrote, "and because voters tend to define the economy in the context of jobs, our central message must remained focused on jobs. It is not possible for you to talk about jobs too much!"

But several Republicans complained in a closed-door meeting last week that party leaders had yet to offer concrete legislative solutions to the country's economic distress.

Rep. Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-N.C.) recounted recently meeting a man from his district who had just lost his job at TRW Inc. "What am I going to tell people about jobs?" Jones said in an interview. "People are hurting, and people don't see any leadership or direction." He said he cannot simply "say 'jobs, jobs, jobs' and sound like a parrot."

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Walter "Let's Call Them Freedom Fries" Jones is a dim wit but he's definitely hit the nail on the head this time. Bush has offered NOTHING that will promote job creation in manufacturing/textiles or agriculture (with the exception of massive subsidies). Furthermore, one of the few industries that might survive foreign competition (tourism) will be hurt by Bush environmental policy. The Great Smokey Mountains have been significantly degraded over the past decade due to emissions from coal-fired plants (under grandfather provisions in the Clean Air Act). The great vistas of the Smokies are now blighted with tree-kills (pollution), haze (pollution), and clear-cuts (poorly-regulated logging). From the mountains to the coast we can degrade our natural beauty in just a few years but it will take decades to fix . . . assuming it can be reversed.

 

[xochi]

As one of the greatest modern presidents said "ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID"


Insert CLINTON GOT BLOWJOB -here-

Insert unlimited France bashing -here- for you know who...

 

[Corn]

This is like the Democrat's wet dream..........
Yeah, us real Republicans are so pissed that Bush that we'll vote liberal, yeah, that'll happen.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Any idiot that votes party instead of in the best interest of the country deserves a good flogging. Anybody that brags about being a real Republican or a real Democrat can certainly revel in their real stupidity.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Many of the Reps here would vote for him if Bush personally set their house on fire. Well, maybe not theirs, but if it is someone else's, sure, go ahead

 

[xochi]

Originally posted by: Corn
This is like the Democrat's wet dream..........
Yeah, us real Republicans are so pissed that Bush that we'll vote liberal, yeah, that'll happen.

Fortunately, the swing voters decide every election, with the exception of the 2000 election.

Dont blame me, i voted with the majority of Americans.

 

[Corn]

Any idiot that votes party instead of in the best interest of the country deserves a good flogging.

People vote what they believe to be in their best interests. My disapproval of some of Bush's policies certainly won't turn me into a liberal--people like me, we'll still vote the lessor of two evils.

But I digress, the Democrets know what's best (always have) for us, their plan is solid.........then again, what do I know, I'm stupid.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Corn

Any idiot that votes party instead of in the best interest of the country deserves a good flogging.

People vote what they believe to be in their best interests. My disapproval of some of Bush's policies certainly won't turn me into a liberal--people like me, we'll still vote the lessor of two evils.

But I digress, the Democrets know what's best (always have) for us, their plan is solid.........then again, what do I know, I'm stupid.

Reps know the same thing. You said so yourself. The lesser of two evils, so you say. Well unless God or Rush told you how to vote, then you decided what you think is best and what those "evils" are. You are just like Democrats, but land on different sides of the issue. You are no better or worse.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Like a good partisan you clearly ignored my criticism of both politcal parties. Don't take by critique as biased against the GOP. There's nothing special about Republicans . . . they are just as ignorant and stubborn as Democrats.

Any idiot that votes party instead of in the best interest of the country deserves a good flogging. Anybody that brags about being a real Republican or a real Democrat can certainly revel in their real stupidity.

I'm glad you realize some of Bush's policy bite. I, on the otherhand, question not only his policy but his philosophy. If the market had worked without political intervention he would still be living at home with the 'rents.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: Corn
This is like the Democrat's wet dream..........
Yeah, us real Republicans are so pissed that Bush that we'll vote liberal, yeah, that'll happen.

Well, thank God there aren't that many of you "real" Republicans to begin with.

Once the crossover and undecided voters realize they've been had by the Bush administration the only votes Bush will have remaining are the handful of "real" Republicans. That is to say the right wing radical Repubicans the Bush administration truly represents. After selling themselves to everyone as "compassionate conservatives."

 

[Corn]

That is to say the right wing radical Repubicans the Bush administration truly represents.

Actually, Bush represents the Democrats wet dream of socialism, you only differ on principle. You extreme lefties hate Bush with the same vitriol that the righties hated Clinton, ironically for the same reasons: Too close a resemblence to the opposition party.

Right wing radical, you make me laugh.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BOBDN

Originally posted by: Corn
This is like the Democrat's wet dream..........
Yeah, us real Republicans are so pissed that Bush that we'll vote liberal, yeah, that'll happen.

Well, thank God there aren't that many of you "real" Republicans to begin with.

Once the crossover and undecided voters realize they've been had by the Bush administration the only votes Bush will have remaining are the handful of "real" Republicans. That is to say the right wing radical Repubicans the Bush administration truly represents. After selling themselves to everyone as "compassionate conservatives."

Well, Thank God we have someone like you really tuned into the moderate and conservative voters to predict their actions in 2004

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: Corn

That is to say the right wing radical Repubicans the Bush administration truly represents.

Actually, Bush represents the Democrats wet dream of socialism, you only differ on principle. You extreme lefties hate Bush with the same vitriol that the righties hated Clinton, ironically for the same reasons: Too close a resemblence to the opposition party.

Right wing radical, you make me laugh.

That's all due to you being so far right to you the middle looks like the left.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BOBDN

Originally posted by: Corn
This is like the Democrat's wet dream..........
Yeah, us real Republicans are so pissed that Bush that we'll vote liberal, yeah, that'll happen.

Well, thank God there aren't that many of you "real" Republicans to begin with.

Once the crossover and undecided voters realize they've been had by the Bush administration the only votes Bush will have remaining are the handful of "real" Republicans. That is to say the right wing radical Repubicans the Bush administration truly represents. After selling themselves to everyone as "compassionate conservatives."

Well, Thank God we have someone like you really tuned into the moderate and conservative voters to predict their actions in 2004

Well, with people like you so tuned in to the far right someone had to do it.

 

[Corn]

That's all due to you being so far right to you the middle looks like the left.

You, of course, have an example of anything that I've posted here on these forums (or elsewhere for tha matter) that would have led you to that conclusion, right?

Of course not, but as usual, running off at the mouth without benefit of a coherent thought is what you do best.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the neo-cons are a cancer to the republican party, of this there is no doubt. I liked 'em better when they were Democrats, and I do what I can to remind likeminded people of this fact when the opportunity presents itself. The party must shift back to the party of Lincoln from within, because it certainly won't change by abandoning it for the unabashed party of nanny state loving socialists.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BOBDN

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BOBDN

Originally posted by: Corn
This is like the Democrat's wet dream..........
Yeah, us real Republicans are so pissed that Bush that we'll vote liberal, yeah, that'll happen.

Well, thank God there aren't that many of you "real" Republicans to begin with.

Once the crossover and undecided voters realize they've been had by the Bush administration the only votes Bush will have remaining are the handful of "real" Republicans. That is to say the right wing radical Repubicans the Bush administration truly represents. After selling themselves to everyone as "compassionate conservatives."

Well, Thank God we have someone like you really tuned into the moderate and conservative voters to predict their actions in 2004

Well, with people like you so tuned in to the far right someone had to do it.

If you ever read a few of my posts, instead of just inserting your preferred opinion, you'd know that I'm much more of a moderate, and I certainly fall in the swing vote arena. Here's a cliff notes of my viewpoints for future reference before you tag me "so far to the right".

Abortion: Support woman's right to chose, but also believe a minor must have parental consent (right to legislate it). Believe it is morally wrong, but is not for others to force their morals on
Guns: Believe the constitutional right to bear arms does not mean that it cannot be legislated, and should be. Support concealed carry, but with restrictions.
Drugs: Believe should be medicalized and taxed, starting with MJ.
Economy: Believe the federal reserve is the true driver. Believe that deficit spending is a "bad thing"
Social Security: Believe it is just another tax, and should be abolished and replaced with a reasonable "safety net".
Military/War in Iraq/war on terror: Support it, and support further action where needed/justified. Concerned with intelligence failures.
Politics: Believe both parties are inherently corrupted by their own special interest groups. Believe in smaller, better government.

All my beliefs are guided by my logical analysis of history, my own morals.

While I didn't vote in 2000, believe it or not I was rooting for Gore. I'll vote for Bush in the next election.

 

[Corn]

Abortion: Support woman's right to chose, but also believe a minor must have parental consent (right to legislate it). Believe it is morally wrong, but is not for others to force their morals on

*right wing extremist views are evident* You said the "m" word twice you judgemental neanderthal.

Guns: Believe the constitutional right to bear arms does not mean that it cannot be legislated, and should be. Support concealed carry, but with restrictions.

More right wing rubbish, guns should be outlawed, the government offers us all the protection we need. The constitution is a living, breathing document, changing as the times.....

Drugs: Believe should be medicalized and taxed, starting with MJ.

OK, you gave an affirmative for taxes, but who uses drugs? Why the poor of course! Why do you want to tax the poor, do you hate the poor?

Social Security: Believe it is just another tax, and should be abolished and replaced with a reasonable "safety net".

Look people, you can't get any more right wing than that!!!!!!! Radical!!!

Military/War in Iraq/war on terror: Support it, and support further action where needed/justified. Concerned with intelligence failures.

When will the fundamentalism ever end?!?!?! Screw the military, we need to find the root causes for terrorism. Appeasement works! We asked for it, our foreign policy is to blame. If we were an agrarian society, forsaking our need for the black poison flowing through the middle east, the world would be living in egalitarian bliss. We all know there was no war and no violence before the industrial age!!!!

Politics: Believe both parties are inherently corrupted by their own special interest groups. Believe in smaller, better government.

Smaller, better? I rest my case. You are a right wing fanatic you Bush lover!

 

[alchemize]

That was a thing of beauty Corn brought a tear to my eye..

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: alchemize


Military/War in Iraq/war on terror: Support it, and support further action where needed/justified. Concerned with intelligence failures.

All my beliefs are guided by my logical analysis of history, my own morals.

While I didn't vote in 2000, believe it or not I was rooting for Gore. I'll vote for Bush in the next election.

Interesting, you say you support the war when it's justified, however you are "concerned with intelligence failures". Those same "intelligence failures" was what allowed the war to be justified in the first place. How can you continue to support a war based on intelligence failures? How can you call yourself moral if you judge life or death of other people based on assumptions and predictions?

 

[Bigdude]

As one of the greatest modern presidents said "ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID"

You must be mistaken. I remember that was Clinton's line, and he was the worst president in history!

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

The party must shift back to the party of Lincoln from within, because it certainly won't change by abandoning it for the unabashed party of nanny state loving socialists.

Party of Lincoln . . . the GOP has more in common with my right gonad than it does with Abraham Lincoln. The GOP hasn't been true to Lincoln's ethos since they gave Teddy the finger. Granted, Lincoln did get on a power kick during the Civil War that included un-Constitutional abridgements of civil liberties. So I guess the GOP has one thing in common with Lincoln.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: alchemize


Military/War in Iraq/war on terror: Support it, and support further action where needed/justified. Concerned with intelligence failures.

All my beliefs are guided by my logical analysis of history, my own morals.

While I didn't vote in 2000, believe it or not I was rooting for Gore. I'll vote for Bush in the next election.

Interesting, you say you support the war when it's justified, however you are "concerned with intelligence failures". Those same "intelligence failures" was what allowed the war to be justified in the first place. How can you continue to support a war based on intelligence failures? How can you call yourself moral if you judge life or death of other people based on assumptions and predictions?

I didn't call myself moral. According to my morals, I often fail miserably to meet what I consider right and wrong. I have a set of morals that I try to guide my life with. But my morals are irrelevant to the attempted link you make, because WMD was never justified as the single reason for the war in Iraq. The remaining reasons I believe are still valid.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Any idiot that votes party instead of in the best interest of the country deserves a good flogging. Anybody that brags about being a real Republican or a real Democrat can certainly revel in their real stupidity.