Job interview question. How to deal with bad references from previous employers

PKPunk

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I have a job interview in a few days and the staffing firm asked I fill out this questionnaire they e-mailed to me and bring it to the interview. Well one of the questions on the questionnaire is to give contact information for my direct supervisor from last 2 jobs. My problem is that I know my previous employer will not give me a good reference. So what should I do, provide the information and hope they don't contact my prior employer or should I give them the info and explain to them why they shouldn't contact them. I have no idea what to do here.

And I'm sure someone here will ask why I'm getting a bad reference from my old job so here's why. You can skip to the last paragraph for a short explanation

I work as a contactor (helpdesk) at a company and my boss told my temp agency he wanted to hire me and told me he was interested in bring me on but he had to wait a 3 months for company to increase his budget so he could hire another person. So to make sure I got hired I busted by butt during those 3 months, I took the most call, resolved the most issue of anyone in my call center group. I'd usually work 9-10 hour days (I was an hourly employee so I only got paid for 8 hours) I even worked 7 days in a row without overtime. I was hungry for a permanent job so I worked my butt off. Anyways 3 months passed my temp agency called and told me that my boss called to hire me on. Since I was a contractor I had to be hired through my temp agency. So a few weeks go by and I don't hear anything from my boss and temp firm and my boss hadn't talked to me about hiring me on. I call my temp firm and they say they're working out details. My company then hires a new contractor through a different temp firm and has me train him, I assume this guy will be my replacement. So after training this guy for 2 weeks I notice someone walks up to his cube and takes off his contractor name tag form his cube (just a piece of paper) and puts up a plastic name badge for a Permanent employee. I go to my boss like what the FU@K's going on and he say's they can't hire me because my temp firm wants 12k as a finder?s fee. I call my temp firm and they say my boss knew all along what the finder?s fee was from the moment they hired me. So I felt like my boss was egging me on to get me to do a lot of unpaid work and I got super pissed. I then told my boss I quit effective immediately and I told my temp firm I quit, they said I had to give 2 weeks notice and I told them to go to hell.

I left without giving 2 weeks notice and this especially screwed over the company I was working for because I left just as 2 full time employees took their vacations. They only had 7 people in their helpdesk so my leaving left 4 people one of whom wasn't fully trained and it was during a week they had a new product roll out so they were expecting high call volumes.

I know I acted unprofessionally but how can I deal with the bad reference

Update

So I went to my interview and it all went well, they seemed to really like me and they told my staffing firm recuriter that they were interested but want to check my references. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what my old boss says about me

 

cchen

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Well, your previous employers aren't legally allowed to badmouth you.... although they probably will.
 

amdforever2

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they cant really give a negative, can they?

isnt it say something nice, or nothing at all?

i thought companies could only say start date, end date, and end wage?
 

styrafoam

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Don't list them if you are worried about it. If the new company finds out you lied on your application then they may fire you for it, assuming you get the job.
 

styrafoam

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I also think that in a legal sense the only question a previous employer is allowed to answer is if they would consider the employee to be rehireable. Not 100% on that though.
 

PKPunk

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Originally posted by: styrafoam
Don't list them if you are worried about it. If the new company finds out you lied on your application then they may fire you for it, assuming you get the job.

well I want to do that, but I'm a new college grad without much experince so I need to list to help beef up my resume
 

PKPunk

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
they cant really give a negative, can they?

isnt it say something nice, or nothing at all?

i thought companies could only say start date, end date, and end wage?

That's why I learned in a management class I took, but my older sister worked in a HR office and said that when they ask for a supervisors contact information instead of the company's HR office number they are trying to get the supervisor to say something pro or con about you because your supervior is more likely to talk about things other than start date, end date, and end wage.

she said her company got into some trouble because a few boss blabed their mouths off pass that basic info.
 

dderidex

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Easy, have a friend that your previous employer doesn't know call them and pretend to be checking up on you as a reference. Tape record that conversation (obviously, your friend is on it, so at least one party is aware the conversation is being recorded - covering your ass on that point).

Then, you can call your previous employers right back and play the recording back and make sure he understands that if you don't get this job, you're going to sue his ass for everything he is worth.

It is *totally* illegal for previous employers to badmouth their employees. They really can only answer if you actually worked there, and provide start dates and end dates.

This is one of those things that occupational lawyers line up for, especially if you get him on tape badmouthing you. They can sue him, his boss, the company, etc. Buku bucks. At the very least, you will totally get your ex-boss fired.
 

Zee

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Originally posted by: dderidex
Easy, have a friend that your previous employer doesn't know call them and pretend to be checking up on you as a reference. Tape record that conversation (obviously, your friend is on it, so at least one party is aware the conversation is being recorded - covering your ass on that point).

Then, you can call your previous employers right back and play the recording back and make sure he understands that if you don't get this job, you're going to sue his ass for everything he is worth.

It is *totally* illegal for previous employers to badmouth their employees. They really can only answer if you actually worked there, and provide start dates and end dates.

This is one of those things that occupational lawyers line up for, especially if you get him on tape badmouthing you. They can sue him, his boss, the company, etc. Buku bucks. At the very least, you will totally get your ex-boss fired.

make sure your friend states that the conversation is being recorded.

By the way, if i was the boss, i would feel bad for you and not bad mouth you.
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: Lazee
make sure your friend states that the conversation is being recorded.

By the way, if i was the boss, i would feel bad for you and not bad mouth you.

Or, more specifically, check your state laws on that.

AFAIK, most states have it where only one party in a conversation has to be aware the conversation is being recorded. I did forget that some states require *all* parties to be notified if the conversation is being taped.

Check into that first.
 

PKPunk

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So I went to my interview and it all went well, they seemed to really like me and they told my staffing firm recuriter that they were interested but want to check my references. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what my old boss says about me