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Job Dilemma: Which of the two?

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AznMscls

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Azurik's brother here🙂

I am not nearly as successful as my brother so please don't benchmark me against him. I am just looking for advice. After reading all the input from his thread, I wanted to see what you guys thought of my situation.

I am graduating with a business degree this December. I have two jobs lined up and I am trying to decide which one is best for me at the moment. The hours and schedules involved, the benefits, the ability to use the skills I will learn in another job, salary, etc.

Please do not diss retail right off the bat, unless you have been in a management role there before. It is a lot different than when we were part-time retail workers. I have worked as a Circuit City Sales Manager during college and it was a lot different than bagging groceries at a grocery store or organizing clothes at the GAP! Otherwise, please chime in!

Industry: Target Corporation (Retail)
Position: Management Trainee
What They Do: Self-explanatory

Salary: $46,000
Hours: 50 hours (7-5 Monday-Thursday, 7-5 Every Other Weekend, EVERY Friday off)
Benefits: Health, Dental, Medical, 401k dollar for dollar match up to 5%, Pension Plan, Tuition Reimbursement, 2 weeks vacation
Commute: 5 hours/week
Work and Commute Total: 55 HOURS

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Industry: (Communications Company) - 10 employees
Position: Operations, Marketing & Sales Manager
What They Do: Calling Cards, WiFi Phones, Broadband Telephony Service, Cell Recharges

Salary: $38,000 (It's really $40,000; but there's an additional 5% income tax from out-of-state)
Hours: 45 hours (9:30-6:30 Monday-Friday)
Benefits: Health fully paid, 2 weeks Vacation
Commute: 13 hours/week
Work and Commute Total: 58 HOURS
 
Do you have a white girlfriend at least?

Take the Target job. That's my vote.

I'd do the Comm Company if there are stocks and you feel confident the company can go public. You are young so you can take risks right now.
 
Go with the comm company sounds like you have the opportunity to get into them while they are growing. You'll learn more about the biz at a smaller company than a big diluted one like Target.

 
I have two jobs lined up and I am trying to decide which one is best for me at the moment. The hours and schedules involved, the benefits, the ability to use the skills I will learn in another job, salary, etc.
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I'm not sure how anyone can tell you what is right for you.

Option one has more money, better benefits, but you'll just be a number. Option two has less money, less benefits, but you're part of a small intimate team.
 
Tough call. Personally, I'd definately lean towards the small company. One of the reasons I really enjoy my current job is because they are a rather young company (~10 years old) and things are really getting off the ground there. The IT department there consists of 4 people, the IT manager, myself (Asst. IT mgr), and 2 helpdesk people.
 
Both crappy jobs:
Once gain, I explain to Business major, you should have done the hard rout of Finacne or Accounting so that you could get yourself a better job.

But I'll step down from my pedestal and say this:

Take the Target job, and the only reason i say this is beacuse a company with 10 employees seem way too small.

However, you should take the other job if they have promised to cross train you in HR, Sales, Operations, finance, budgeting and the like. Could make you a much more well rounded person.

Oh, and i will continue to BASH and laugh at retail employees because they are working odd hours, weekend and saying things like Paper or Plastic. I've seen way too many managers doing the grunt work because their sales staff called in sick.

Enjoy working weekedns, holidays, and nights when needed.


 
I guess the 8K per year pay difference doesn't mean that much to you, but if you want to get a new car, TV, PC etc.. or have your eye on a nicer place to move into then go with the money or you will be sorry or have no extra spending money.

And if the money doesn't matter..

Target if looking for something stable with a good chance of promotion within, and generally fixed salary and raises. As the "new guy" you will get all the crapola shifts like christmas eve and midnight inventory, but at least Target isn't a 24x7 store like walmart. But if you plan to be a department or general manager at any type of large company then expereince in retail management will be very good.

The small company is good if you want to take a chance, or plan to possibly open your own business in the future. You can learn a lot about business working for a small company since you will likely take on many roles and work on projects not specific to what you were hired to do. They may do really well and you could get good promotions or raises or they may do crappy and close, fire you, or cut your pay at a moments notice. Benifits could be casual dress, standard work schedule + paid holidays, unscheduled raises or promotion etc..
 
Originally posted by: doze
I guess the 8K per year pay difference doesn't mean that much to you, but if you want to get a new car, TV, PC etc.. or have your eye on a nicer place to move into then go with the money or you will be sorry or have no extra spending money.

And if the money doesn't matter..

Target if looking for something stable with a good chance of promotion within, and generally fixed salary and raises. As the "new guy" you will get all the crapola shifts like christmas eve and midnight inventory, but at least Target isn't a 24x7 store like walmart. But if you plan to be a department or general manager at any type of large company then expereince in retail management will be very good.

The small company is good if you want to take a chance, or plan to possibly open your own business in the future. You can learn a lot about business working for a small company since you will likely take on many roles and work on projects not specific to what you were hired to do. They may do really well and you could get good promotions or raises or they may do crappy and close, fire you, or cut your pay at a moments notice. Benifits could be casual dress, standard work schedule + paid holidays, unscheduled raises or promotion etc..
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the chances and oppurtunities in a smaller newer company may be better for you since you are still young and can afford to screw up a little. if this company goes big you could be set.

but if things go sour you may be able to get back into retail.

depends on what type of person you are .
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
why dont u just mooch of azurik? lol...
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I won't let him mooch off of me. Hell, I already am his financial planner. I take care of his previous 401k, maintain his ROTH IRA, etc.

He should be paying me!
 
I would say pick the latter company because even though they are smaller, there are potentials for growths. Since you are young, you should be working at a company that might be able to train you in other aspect of business. Working at Target might give you money, but how much more can you learn at a retail job? If things failed with the small company, at least you have the experience behind you and find another job.

Good luck.
 
If you're going to the small company, esp as a sales manager, odds are you're going to be expected to sell and/or get the sales staff to sell. If you can't sell, you probably won't be there very long.

Not to mention I find it weird that you'll be the Op, Marketing & Sales manager. I hope you're a good salesman or become one quickly.
 
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Both crappy jobs:
Once gain, I explain to Business major, you should have done the hard rout of Finacne or Accounting so that you could get yourself a better job.

But I'll step down from my pedestal and say this:

Take the Target job, and the only reason i say this is beacuse a company with 10 employees seem way too small.

However, you should take the other job if they have promised to cross train you in HR, Sales, Operations, finance, budgeting and the like. Could make you a much more well rounded person.

Oh, and i will continue to BASH and laugh at retail employees because they are working odd hours, weekend and saying things like Paper or Plastic. I've seen way too many managers doing the grunt work because their sales staff called in sick.

Enjoy working weekedns, holidays, and nights when needed.
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i agree with everything you mention... i hope it wasn't a BA in Business Administration... that's like the liberal arts of a Business School... now if it was from ... maybe Wharton, it wouldn't matter as much because there'd be a lot of oncampus activity....

Um, I think more people bash small startups after the turn of the century dotbombs...

but this one is not an Internet company... however it's a Comms company, which is slowly coming out of it's own downturn.


I used to work for recruiters while i went to school... if you go w/ the comms company and after 1,2,3, yrs you leave or it goes bust or fired or laid off and have to make that resume... Target may be a better item on your resume, but some of this point of mine depends on what kinds of employers are around geographically where you'd be looking. too bad it's not a Target job at their Corp. offices, that would be better in working up the ladder than at a retail location.

if you come from a small company and you want to look for a bigger company... you know, 'boutique' to mega... you might not get looked at as readily as the other way around... there are always more small companies than there are big ones...

Retail blows, luckily i've never worked retail ever in my life, though i have service relation skills for every job out of school.

but anyway, it's just a 1st job... if it's not a big corp. from oncampus recruiting, then yeah just get your feet wet...you have time on your side to move away from jobs that turn out to be deadend jobs. my first job, i didnt care for what company it was,as long as it was in the industry i wanted and i was working close to those who were the money makers for the company, but that's just me.
 
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