- Jan 21, 2005
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As some of you may know, I was recently transferred from a part-time internship into a full-time programmer position at my place of employment. The job has been good, a little slow, but all in all, pretty good.
I was recently presented an opportunity to work at my girlfriend's grandparents construction company that specializes in concrete. I would be a project manager responsible for scheduling and coordinating jobs between the crews and site superintendents/general contractors.
Current job:
51k
Full health, vision, dental insurance
401k
No vacation until a year of service (Nov 2012 is when I'll get a week of vacation, Nov 2013 I would get two weeks)
10min commute
Prospective job:
51k - 55k
Health insurance
No 401k
Unlimited time off (mostly paid, some unpaid)
10min commute, will probably be given company vehicle and phone
Now, the only reason I'm even considering doing this is because there are certain aspects of my life that I would rather pursue, namely owning and operating a recording studio and performing with a touring band. This would essentially give me the best of both worlds. While the initial stresses of the job would be difficult, I will be given lots of guidance from the current project manager, as well as the company owners, on how to perform the job well. I already have some great ideas to help the crews out as far as scheduling (using IT solutions).
I have expressed to them that while I want to be a great employee to them by improving their current project management processes, I also have somewhat of a ulterior motive by playing with the band and getting my studio on line (which is already 50% there). The owner (girlfriend's grandpa) and I are meeting Saturday to discuss this.
I was wondering what AT thought of this? I know a lot of you are family guys with lots to lose with a job transition like this, but keep in mind that I am a single 25 year old with little debt. In the future, I may be able to become a partial owner in this business, which is another long term goal of mine (business ownership).
Cliffs:
* Working FT programming job with full benefits, pays 51k
* Opportunity to work project management job, pays at least 51k, maybe more, health insurance only
* No time off until Nov 2012 with current job, prospective job allows unlimited time off
* I'm considering this because the free time will allow me to begin building a recording studio as well as tour with a band this summer, potential to become part owner in the company in the future
UPDATE:
Hi folks. Just wanted to update this thread. I decided to not take the job.
The job was a new position for a sub contractor. In the OP, I made it sound as if I would be a PM for a very large company on large projects. I would only be responsible for keeping track of materials needed for each site, as well as, sending crews to the correct sites and scheduling the jobs in advance (approx a week out). Currently, all of this responsibility is tracked in a notebook by a crew leader who has more important duties. Jobs are not scheduled in advance, and the workers have to call crew leaders each day to see where they are going.
I'd be responsible for making the position as best as possible.
The "president" of the business is a help desk guy of 15 years who moved from Arizona to manage his dad's company (in the OP, i mentioned it was my girlfriend's grandparents company). In short, he is very incompetent and doesn't manage money well nor does he plan very well. He does not treat my g/f nor the other office employee very well. He also has multitudes of excuses why he can't show up to work and/or leave early.
I would have taken the position if he wasn't so incompetent. It was a drastic pay cut at $45k, but with the freedom it would have allowed me, that doesn't matter. I plan on talking to my supervisor later to see if I can move from full-time back to part-time for a while so that I can do the stuff I want.
I was recently presented an opportunity to work at my girlfriend's grandparents construction company that specializes in concrete. I would be a project manager responsible for scheduling and coordinating jobs between the crews and site superintendents/general contractors.
Current job:
51k
Full health, vision, dental insurance
401k
No vacation until a year of service (Nov 2012 is when I'll get a week of vacation, Nov 2013 I would get two weeks)
10min commute
Prospective job:
51k - 55k
Health insurance
No 401k
Unlimited time off (mostly paid, some unpaid)
10min commute, will probably be given company vehicle and phone
Now, the only reason I'm even considering doing this is because there are certain aspects of my life that I would rather pursue, namely owning and operating a recording studio and performing with a touring band. This would essentially give me the best of both worlds. While the initial stresses of the job would be difficult, I will be given lots of guidance from the current project manager, as well as the company owners, on how to perform the job well. I already have some great ideas to help the crews out as far as scheduling (using IT solutions).
I have expressed to them that while I want to be a great employee to them by improving their current project management processes, I also have somewhat of a ulterior motive by playing with the band and getting my studio on line (which is already 50% there). The owner (girlfriend's grandpa) and I are meeting Saturday to discuss this.
I was wondering what AT thought of this? I know a lot of you are family guys with lots to lose with a job transition like this, but keep in mind that I am a single 25 year old with little debt. In the future, I may be able to become a partial owner in this business, which is another long term goal of mine (business ownership).
Cliffs:
* Working FT programming job with full benefits, pays 51k
* Opportunity to work project management job, pays at least 51k, maybe more, health insurance only
* No time off until Nov 2012 with current job, prospective job allows unlimited time off
* I'm considering this because the free time will allow me to begin building a recording studio as well as tour with a band this summer, potential to become part owner in the company in the future
UPDATE:
Hi folks. Just wanted to update this thread. I decided to not take the job.
The job was a new position for a sub contractor. In the OP, I made it sound as if I would be a PM for a very large company on large projects. I would only be responsible for keeping track of materials needed for each site, as well as, sending crews to the correct sites and scheduling the jobs in advance (approx a week out). Currently, all of this responsibility is tracked in a notebook by a crew leader who has more important duties. Jobs are not scheduled in advance, and the workers have to call crew leaders each day to see where they are going.
I'd be responsible for making the position as best as possible.
The "president" of the business is a help desk guy of 15 years who moved from Arizona to manage his dad's company (in the OP, i mentioned it was my girlfriend's grandparents company). In short, he is very incompetent and doesn't manage money well nor does he plan very well. He does not treat my g/f nor the other office employee very well. He also has multitudes of excuses why he can't show up to work and/or leave early.
I would have taken the position if he wasn't so incompetent. It was a drastic pay cut at $45k, but with the freedom it would have allowed me, that doesn't matter. I plan on talking to my supervisor later to see if I can move from full-time back to part-time for a while so that I can do the stuff I want.
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Pretty much a non-issue.
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