JJ May Just Save the Star Wars Franchise...

[destrekor]

I actually expect these will be better movies than the originals (in various ways, structure and form of the plot and characters for instance), although I think they will also be more forgettable and less interesting just because they exist in a different era and are going to be trying to cash in on the nostalgia for the originals. Simply put, these can't be the culture defining experiences that the originals were.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

I truly believe these, or at least Episode 7, will be better than any of the previous ones before it. But nostalgia is a hard feeling to crack, and people who cherish the originals will be too blinded to see what is right in front of them.

They will be more "overly produced" but I don't suspect they will be in a negative way. They will feel such, and remind the old fans of the prequels, though only in visual feeling. The old movies didn't have the flair of new movies, and with the digital era, it's basically assumed any decent budget will have a production quality that makes even the best older movies look cheap. That said, a movie should never be judged based upon it's skin, if you will.

I strongly suspect the plot and character development will blow away anything in any of the previous movies. The plots were very thin, ripped right from the pages of numerous other works, and also quite immature. The original movies were mostly well-acted and put together with a class that helped meld all of that. The prequels, however, maintained everything about the old movies, but with Lucas having the final say on everything this time around, that proved atrocious and made those flaws all the more obvious.

I'm looking forward to a more developed sci-fi epic that dives further into the intricacies of the developed story universe. That's why I am also very excited for the spin-off "anthologies" movies, because there is so much that is ripe for the picking, so long as the story is told with the depth that the universe demands. I mean, a gritty, Saving Private Ryan-esque depiction of the Battle of Endor and the rebel's efforts to repel and overthrow the Empire? Uh... yes please!

I'm no SW super nerd, not by any means. I don't view it with any more glamour than any other epic universe. I just respect the concept of a sci-fi epic and feel it's about time that some serious effort went toward bringing justice to what it could have always been, not what seems like a neat idea to a singular writer who had quite juvenile insights in regards to plot and character development.

 

[ctark]

I just did, and as I remembered there's nothing there that contradicted what I said. In fact Qui Gon just explains, again, that midichlorians are simply intermediaries that allow living things to sense/use the force, they don't create it. So I'm not sure what you're trying to rebut...

I wasn't trying to rebut anything, I was just pointing out a few episodes that delve into the force and was letting you know about them in case you hadn't seen them.

 

[ctark]

I think you hit the nail on the head.

I truly believe these, or at least Episode 7, will be better than any of the previous ones before it. But nostalgia is a hard feeling to crack, and people who cherish the originals will be too blinded to see what is right in front of them.

They will be more "overly produced" but I don't suspect they will be in a negative way. They will feel such, and remind the old fans of the prequels, though only in visual feeling. The old movies didn't have the flair of new movies, and with the digital era, it's basically assumed any decent budget will have a production quality that makes even the best older movies look cheap. That said, a movie should never be judged based upon it's skin, if you will.

I strongly suspect the plot and character development will blow away anything in any of the previous movies. The plots were very thin, ripped right from the pages of numerous other works, and also quite immature. The original movies were mostly well-acted and put together with a class that helped meld all of that. The prequels, however, maintained everything about the old movies, but with Lucas having the final say on everything this time around, that proved atrocious and made those flaws all the more obvious.

I'm looking forward to a more developed sci-fi epic that dives further into the intricacies of the developed story universe. That's why I am also very excited for the spin-off "anthologies" movies, because there is so much that is ripe for the picking, so long as the story is told with the depth that the universe demands. I mean, a gritty, Saving Private Ryan-esque depiction of the Battle of Endor and the rebel's efforts to repel and overthrow the Empire? Uh... yes please!

I'm no SW super nerd, not by any means. I don't view it with any more glamour than any other epic universe. I just respect the concept of a sci-fi epic and feel it's about time that some serious effort went toward bringing justice to what it could have always been, not what seems like a neat idea to a singular writer who had quite juvenile insights in regards to plot and character development.

Lucas himself has said Star Wars is based on old Saturday serials, and are not mean't to be overly serious or well acted. Take that however you want, but I know it has been said a few times.

 

[destrekor]

Lucas himself has said Star Wars is based on old Saturday serials, and are not mean't to be overly serious or well acted. Take that however you want, but I know it has been said a few times.

The serials part may be true, but the well acted bit is just covering his incompetence.

 

[Homerboy]

For the record, I'm with zinfamous and BoberFett on this one. The EU, comic book stuff, cartoons etc etc are all just extensions of the shitfest episodes 1-3 were/are. Sorry, I'm not reading or buying into any of that shit -- it's horrible.

 

[Homerboy]

You will probably laugh, but Maul is still alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg

One of the nicest fights they ever did on Clone Wars.

Exactly why the cartoons etc are stupid. Maul is "alive"? No... no hes not. Obiwon got hit with a saber too -- and he disappeared. Darth (the greatest of them all) died due to a chopped off hand and some lightning. Maul DIED when he got chopped in half.

 

[LevelSea]

I'm curious to see what kind of butt fucking CG squirrel frog is going to be the comic relief in the new movie.

 

[Fingolfin269]

You mean the original story where Luke and Leia weren't sisters, and Darth Vader wasn't lukes father and had zero chance at redemption?

Man if Lucas hadn't messed with the story of A new hope you probably wouldn't like any Star Wars at all.

Did they also cover this development in a cartoon or comic somewhere? Luke is really...

Star Wars Episode 7 - "Call Me Luca"

 

[xSauronx]

You will probably laugh, but Maul is still alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg

One of the nicest fights they ever did on Clone Wars.

/facepalm
ridiculous. the guy was cut in half. i dont even want to know what the explanation here is.

i would like to add that i would enjoy seeing more than lightsaber swings, force pushes and force move-an-object in a fight. some of the lightsaber fights in 1-3 were just fancy fast saber swings and, given the technology used already, could have been a little more interesting

anyway, im in the camp of 1-3 is garbge, but im looking forward to 7-9. i cant not want to see them, even if they turn out horrible and i have to ignore them later.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Order of awesomeness prediction.

1) Episodes 4,5,6
2) Episodes 7,8,9
3) Alf
4) Episodes 1,2,3

 

[gorcorps]

Order of awesomeness prediction.

1) Episodes 4,5,6
2) Episodes 7,8,9
3) Alf
4) Episodes 1,2,3

I think there's going to be some shakeups. Like some of the new trilogy may surpass Ep 6 at least, and maybe more depending on your tastes. We'll see how the story shapes up

 

[Homerboy]

/facepalm
ridiculous. the guy was cut in half. i dont even want to know what the explanation here is.

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anyway, im in the camp of 1-3 is garbge, but im looking forward to 7-9. i cant not want to see them, even if they turn out horrible and i have to ignore them later.

I agree with all of this completely. The bold is my EXACT sentiment.