Jimmy Kimmel hands 1st generation iPhone to strangers thinking it is a iPhone 6S

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BurnItDwn

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I have never had an iphone and have no interest in anything running ios or mac os. And Im pretty sure I could tell the difference between 1st gen and current gen.
 

NoTine42

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Apple was probably onto something with the size of the 1st iPhone feeling right...but most people would prefer holding an uncomfortable device with a larger screen.
 

CZroe

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They never showed us the screen. Were they running whited00r at least?
 

Rakehellion

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I wonder how many people they had to film before they found some that were unfamiliar with the iPhone/smartphones to make it work? I am guessing 1 in 15? Maybe 1 in 20?

-KeithP

Agreed. No one who owns an iPhone or has the slightest interest in purchasing one would be fooled by this.
 

NoTine42

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I've held exactly one iphone in my hand for perhaps 50 seconds, and it was in an otter case. How would I be expected to tell one model from another?

Because this is a tech forum ;)

Car guys can tell you engine specs of a Ferarri even if they haven't driven that car.
 

lxskllr

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I can't tell one iDevice from another, but I know old as shit when I see it. I could probably line all the phones up in close chronological order, but would probably get the "S"s mixed up.
 

Mayne

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I can't tell one iDevice from another, but I know old as shit when I see it. I could probably line all the phones up in close chronological order, but would probably get the "S"s mixed up.

thanks for finally opening up to us.
 

smackababy

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Apple was probably onto something with the size of the 1st iPhone feeling right...but most people would prefer holding an uncomfortable device with a larger screen.

Apple was on to a lot more than size. The idea people would want a "smart phone" that didn't have all the terribly clunky "enterprise" features of BlackBerrys and Windows Mobile was pretty revolutionary, especially that the price didn't even need to be adjusted for the "lacking" functionality.
 

Crono

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Everyone's IQs drop temporarily for these man-on-the-street interviews. On top of that they probably aren't focused on really looking at tbe device as carefully as they would in another environment, and the people shown aren't likely the biggest tech enthusiasts.

Funny video, but no one should take any conclusions from it.
That said, each iPhone model is an evolution of the previous model. There are plenty of additive changes, but the superficial design is still relatively consistent. Old Android devices like Motorola's or HTC devices, on the other hand, look very different from current models.

Partly because they haven't found a successful winning formula (maybe Motorola has it now with G's and X's, which I think are fantastic) and partly because fixed design language/principles (for better or worse, depending on which side you fall on) isn't as baked into their core as Apple.
 

CZroe

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Apple was on to a lot more than size. The idea people would want a "smart phone" that didn't have all the terribly clunky "enterprise" features of BlackBerrys and Windows Mobile was pretty revolutionary, especially that the price didn't even need to be adjusted for the "lacking" functionality.
It wasn't really a smartphone before it could run apps and people expected MMS and video recording from their non-business feature-phones even back then. Also, they thought they could get away with charging MORE and ultimately had to drop the price AND offer $200 iTunes gift cards to the few angry diehards who dared to buy it before the price drop. Let's not forget about the headphone jack that pretty much only fit their earbuds and the lack of copy/paste. These aren't enterprise features they left out.
 
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Ichinisan

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It wasn't really a smartphone before it could run apps and people expected MMS bad video recording from their non-business feature-phones even back then. Also, they thought they could get away with charging MORE and ultimately had to drop the price AND offer $200 iTunes gift cards to the few angry diehards who dared to buy it before the price drop. Let's not forget about the headphone jack that pretty much only fit their earbuds and the lack of copy/paste. These aren't enterprise features they left out.

There were no custom ringtones at first, IIRC. No Bluetooth A2DP either (I think that came with iOS 3).
 

CZroe

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Oh yeah! A2DP was a huge disappointment for me even with the iPhone 3G. A2DP never came to the original iPhone without Jailbreak hacks. No AVRCP for the others until half-way through iOS4's lifecycle.
 

Ichinisan

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...also voice dialing was standard on most phones before the smartphone revolution, and iPhone didn't support that until iOS3 was released (along with the 3GS).
 

Greenman

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Because this is a tech forum ;)

Car guys can tell you engine specs of a Ferarri even if they haven't driven that car.

I'd argue that it's a social forum with a tech section.
If there was no name on the device, the only clue I would have is if it was a glass case, then I'd know it was an apple device. That was an engineering blunder that should be in text books. Calling the stuff "gorilla glass" proves that while apple may not know shit about basic design criteria, they have marketing wrapped up.
 

Ichinisan

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I'd argue that it's a social forum with a tech section.
If there was no name on the device, the only clue I would have is if it was a glass case, then I'd know it was an apple device. That was an engineering blunder that should be in text books. Calling the stuff "gorilla glass" proves that while apple may not know shit about basic design criteria, they have marketing wrapped up.

I'm pretty sure Gorilla Glass(tm) existed before Apple used it. IIRC, Apple didn't even come out and admit that they used Gorrilla Glass at first, so I don't think Apple used that name for marketing at all.

Now, it's "double ion strengthened glass" or something like that.
 

CZroe

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I'm pretty sure Gorilla Glass(tm) existed before Apple used it. IIRC, Apple didn't even come out and admit that they used Gorrilla Glass at first, so I don't think Apple used that name for marketing at all.

Now, it's "double ion strengthened glass" or something like that.


It's well known that Apple went to Owens Corning and asked what they had that might be appropriate. They dug out an old patent that wasn't being used because they didn't have a usage scenario that called for it. Apple wanted it so they put it into production but they did not want to promote specific component supplier brands or products for competitive reasons (shop to another supplier, switch to alternatives like sapphire, make their own, etc). That's why they never called it "Gorilla Glass."
 

shortylickens

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I'd argue that it's a social forum with a tech section.
If there was no name on the device, the only clue I would have is if it was a glass case, then I'd know it was an apple device. That was an engineering blunder that should be in text books. Calling the stuff "gorilla glass" proves that while apple may not know shit about basic design criteria, they have marketing wrapped up.

You could scrape off the Apple logo and call it the prototype Samsung or HTC and most folks wouldnt know the difference, and they also probably would not get all excited either.

That logo is the main feature.
 

rh71

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I live in Verizon or nothing land. $60/month for 6 GB data plus $20/phone/month plus fees and taxes. It's in the same cost realm as operating my car (insurance plus gas).

Gave up my unlimited to upgrade my phone cheap so I got dropped to 6gb for $30/mo. The current plans would be a no go for me. We pay $84/mo. Total after taxes for 2 lines but the other phone is a dumb phone.

Minimum for that setup these days is like $100.
 
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BUTCH1

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Reminds me I need to refurbish my iPhone 2G before the part prices get nuts. Eventually it will be quite the collector's item I imagine.

Meh, if you had an unopened boxed one then possibly, but they are selling for around $25-75 on Ebay now, keep in mind Apple wound up selling millions of these phones.
 

shortylickens

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Meh, if you had an unopened boxed one then possibly, but they are selling for around $25-75 on Ebay now, keep in mind Apple wound up selling millions of these phones.

Yeah, the smart people buy things and DONT open them. Wait a few years, you have a Collectible.
 

BUTCH1

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Yeah, the smart people buy things and DONT open them. Wait a few years, you have a Collectible.

Yea, I have a "Homer car" I bought about 6 years ago for $30, they go for $75 now but polar lights is still making them I guess so it might take 10 more years before it's really rare. Mine's fully assembled but in mint condition and I kept the box so who knows LOL. I decided it was too cool to not assemble and show.
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mikegg

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Going to laugh at those who think most iphone users actually have any clue about technology. Most like to brag they have an iphone, but beyond that, they don't even konw what it is or isn't capable of, other than rattling off specs. If apple made the camera only black and white, and told users it brought out superior contrast to those color photos other phones use, fb would be filled with b&w photos.

It would have been funny if one of them had pulled out an iphone 1.

Actually, iPhone users are on average, more wealthy than Android users:
http://www.businessinsider.com/android-is-for-poor-people-maps-2014-4

Because iPhone user are wealthier on average, I'm going to assume that they are more educated - thus, more tech-savvy in general.

The Android "tech-savy" users you're talking about are the people you see on internet forums who are inherently more technical because they are... well... on a forum. This is a very very small percentage of the population. It seems large to you because these are the types of people you encounter every day.

I can attest to this on a daily basis. 90% of our software engineers are using iPhones. 10% on Android. Disclaimer: I live in San Francisco.