JHH: The computer has lost its magic...

thilanliyan

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http://en.expreview.com/2010/01/18/nvidia-ceo-the-computer-has-lost-its-magic/6471.html

First comment:
"You blind us with your stupid 3d virtual porn glasses and now “The computer has lost its majic?” It has lost something alright, something like NO GRAPHICS CARD…… Next generation talk with no generation NOW is pathetic." :D

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The expreview article seems to have been taken down. Here's an xbitlabs article:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/..._Has_Lost_Its_Magic_Chief_Exec_of_Nvidia.html
 
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CurseTheSky

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“The computer would simply know that it is me sitting in front of it. I wouldn’t need to type in a password. It would know it’s me based on what it sees of me, the way I am acting and talking. These kinds of capabilities are certainly within the next generation, because we have created a processor for the GPU that makes it possible to do parallel processing so much faster on a PC. We think this GPU technology is going to transform computing in a way that will bring back the magic to consumers,” said Mr. Huang.

Oh please. I have a laptop that does facial recognition and logs me in automatically based on that. It's easy to setup and decently accurate (never a false-positive so far, and I've had dozens of people try... sometimes it just takes an extra 10 seconds of turning my face this way and that to recognize it's me).

If he's talking about taking that to the next level - as in having our computers interact with us in real time by suggesting reading material based on our mood (facial expressions) or greeting us every time we sit down in the chair and saying goodbye every time we walk away, that's 100% possible with regular CPUs. No GPU parallel processing necessary.

This sounds like a simple marketing plug for CUDA to me. "Don't buy a system with a fast CPU, because GPUs will be doing all the work soon enough anyway! Oh... and we just so happen to manufacture GPUs... go figure!" Give me a break.
 

T2k

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Absolutely agreed, it's a marketing/pep talk, aimed at investors, to sell their future product roadmap, after both AMD's Fusion and Intel's CPU-GPU products hit the market (probably in 2-3 years.)
 
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nitromullet

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The quote is taken out of context...

“The computer that we know of today has lost its magic in the sense that the technology has become rather mature and that is one of the reasons the PC has stopped amazing us,”

...is actually what he said.

I agree with him that the computer, the internet, and most technology has lost the wow factor that it once had. IMO, part of the reason for this is that yes, we've become used to a lot of that stuff and it has become common place. Another part of the reason is because it's become big business, and companies are forcing arbitrary restrictions, EULAs, planned obsolesce, questionable practices, and more on us in order to protect their own interests. MS, NVIDIA, Intel, AMD, EA, Apple, and anyone else who is a major or wealthy player is guilty of this.

No amount of facial recognition or fancy interfaces are going to bring back the magic either. Once big business instead of big imaginations drive an industry (which is inevitable), it has forever lost its magic.
 

nitromullet

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The quote is from the first comment, just like the OP cited.

Is it even still considered a quote when you omit some of the words to create new sentences?

“The computer that we know of today has lost its magic in the sense that the technology has become rather mature and that is one of the reasons the PC has stopped amazing us,”

either way... Looks like JHH didn't like that article too much.

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nitromullet

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What did he omit? The quote in the OP is PRECISELY what the first commenter on that article said.

I never said the OP misquoted anyone. I was referring to the author of the article creatively omitting parts of JHH's statement for a sensational headline.
 

nitromullet

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Irrelevant to his comments.

In your opinion.

IMO, I think if the head of one of the most influential technology corporations were to make a blanket statement like "The computer has lost its magic." with no qualifiers, it would be a somewhat disappointing thing to hear.

However, JHH presents the full statement, "The computer that we know of today has lost its magic in the sense that the technology has become rather mature and that is one of the reasons the PC has stopped amazing us." as a challenge to himself, his company, and the industry to make computing magic again.

That being said, as I mentioned in my first post, I don't think the big money making, self interest, protectionist companies will be the ones to rekindle the magic. IMO, it will be someone small with a good idea. Think PhysX and Lucid, but bigger, more radical ideas... Of course, the creative minds will get bought by the big money companies, but that is the way of things.
 

T2k

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In your opinion.

IMO, I think if the head of one of the most influential technology corporations
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I BEG to differ...

Nvidia is no more influential than AMD/ATI, probably even less as they are nothing but a graphics chip maker while AMD ensures some level of competitiveness on a much more important segment, the CPU market - if you want to see one of the most influential technology corporations then look at Intel, Microsoft or HP.
Influential != bigger and being loud and arrogant does not make you more influential either.

were to make a blanket statement like "The computer has lost its magic." with no qualifiers, it would be a somewhat disappointing thing to hear.

However, JHH presents the full statement, "The computer that we know of today has lost its magic in the sense that the technology has become rather mature and that is one of the reasons the PC has stopped amazing us." as a challenge to himself, his company, and the industry to make computing magic again.

That being said, as I mentioned in my first post, I don't think the big money making, self interest, protectionist companies will be the ones to rekindle the magic. IMO, it will be someone small with a good idea. Think PhysX and Lucid, but bigger, more radical ideas... Of course, the creative minds will get bought by the big money companies, but that is the way of things.

I think it's clearly a pep talk, nothing else. Nvidia's only chance to survive the upcoming AMD-Intel strikes is if it can carve out its own niche GPGPU market.
 

Nemesis 1

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The Magic??? LOL . I looked and seen a frog like beast who gave its power to the first beast. LOL . Magic indeed.
 
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nitromullet

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I BEG to differ...

Nvidia is no more influential than AMD/ATI, probably even less as they are nothing but a graphics chip maker while AMD ensures some level of competitiveness on a much more important segment, the CPU market - if you want to see one of the most influential technology corporations then look at Intel, Microsoft or HP.
Influential != bigger and being loud and arrogant does not make you more influential either.



I think it's clearly a pep talk, nothing else. Nvidia's only chance to survive the upcoming AMD-Intel strikes is if it can carve out its own niche GPGPU market.

I never said AMD/ATI, Intel, MS, etc were any less influential... Notice I said "one of the most influential technology corporations". There are a number of influential companies out there, and NV is certainly one of them.

Of course it's a pep talk designed to cast their current and future products/direction in the best light. Thank you, Mr. Obvious. Would you expect Huang to sing the praises of x86?
 

lifeblood

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JHH has a point. The way we interact with PC's is stuck in a rut. But that is changing. Multi-touch screens are here now and will soon offer 'minority report' style interactions. Also, voice control (que snippet of Scotty saying "Hello, computer"). The voice control in particular will require lots of number crunching resources which nVidia just happens to have a product capable of.

The multi-touch is good, but imagine a PC you can do both voice control and multi-touch. You could verbally tell the PC to play a movie on the TV for child 1 while helping child 2 with his physics homwork on the touchscreen. I don't think this dream is that far off.
 

Fox5

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“The computer would simply know that it is me sitting in front of it. I wouldn’t need to type in a password. It would know it’s me based on what it sees of me, the way I am acting and talking. These kinds of capabilities are certainly within the next generation, because we have created a processor for the GPU that makes it possible to do parallel processing so much faster on a PC. We think this GPU technology is going to transform computing in a way that will bring back the magic to consumers,” said Mr. Huang.

Oh please. I have a laptop that does facial recognition and logs me in automatically based on that. It's easy to setup and decently accurate (never a false-positive so far, and I've had dozens of people try... sometimes it just takes an extra 10 seconds of turning my face this way and that to recognize it's me).

If he's talking about taking that to the next level - as in having our computers interact with us in real time by suggesting reading material based on our mood (facial expressions) or greeting us every time we sit down in the chair and saying goodbye every time we walk away, that's 100% possible with regular CPUs. No GPU parallel processing necessary.

This sounds like a simple marketing plug for CUDA to me. "Don't buy a system with a fast CPU, because GPUs will be doing all the work soon enough anyway! Oh... and we just so happen to manufacture GPUs... go figure!" Give me a break.

I have my computer set up to automatically connect and login when the bluetooth of my phone is within a certain range. It then locks automatically when I leave. PAN ftw.