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fitzov

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The one thing I can say about people always talking badly about Jewish people is this, they're God's chosen people.

I can understand why a member of any other religion could be offended by that.
 

Cooler

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As a Jew I am not really a Zionist I support Jews wanting a homeland but not all the actions that they have taken in the past to obtain it.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Cooler
As a Jew I am not really a Zionist I support Jews wanting a homeland but not all the actions that they have taken in the past to obtain it.

As a non-Jew, I fully support the actions of the Jews in obtaining their homeland. But as someone who believes in separation between church and state, it doesn't seem like a good idea. :confused:
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Cooler
As a Jew I am not really a Zionist I support Jews wanting a homeland but not all the actions that they have taken in the past to obtain it.

As a non-Jew, I fully support the actions of the Jews in obtaining their homeland. But as someone who believes in separation between church and state, it doesn't seem like a good idea. :confused:

Thats one of my main problems with it as well.
 

eits

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i dunno, but i do know that the israeli state is run by a bunch of asshats who don't know the difference between shyt and apple butter. they terrorize the palestinians when the palestinians terrorize them and then go to war, calling it a war against terrorism. eat my ass, israel. conversely, eat my ass, palestine.
 

reverend boltron

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Originally posted by: fitzov
The one thing I can say about people always talking badly about Jewish people is this, they're God's chosen people.

I can understand why a member of any other religion could be offended by that.

You know, the word of God is offensive, and that's fine with me. He says that they're His chosen people, so who am I to argue that? And besides, I didn't say that being Jewish gave you a path to Him, that's only through Jesus Christ (John 14:6). If you deny that, you don't have God (2 John 8-10). That's what the bible says.
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Originally posted by: fitzov
The one thing I can say about people always talking badly about Jewish people is this, they're God's chosen people.

I can understand why a member of any other religion could be offended by that.

You know, the word of God is offensive, and that's fine with me. He says that they're His chosen people, so who am I to argue that? And besides, I didn't say that being Jewish gave you a path to Him, that's only through Jesus Christ (John 14:6). If you deny that, you don't have God (2 John 8-10). That's what the bible says.
By being Jewish you automatically do not believe that as we believe the messiah has not come.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: eits
i dunno, but i do know that the israeli state is run by a bunch of asshats who don't know the difference between shyt and apple butter. they terrorize the palestinians when the palestinians terrorize them and then go to war, calling it a war against terrorism. eat my ass, israel. conversely, eat my ass, palestine.

I agree, they should be forced to sit in opposite corners of the room.

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Originally posted by: fitzov
The one thing I can say about people always talking badly about Jewish people is this, they're God's chosen people.

I can understand why a member of any other religion could be offended by that.

You know, the word of God is offensive, and that's fine with me. He says that they're His chosen people, so who am I to argue that? And besides, I didn't say that being Jewish gave you a path to Him, that's only through Jesus Christ (John 14:6). If you deny that, you don't have God (2 John 8-10). That's what the bible says.

"chosen people" or not, that doesn't give them a free pass to indiscriminately kill civilians, no?
 

Conky

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I heard Hitler wasn't a big fan of the Jews.

It's true... those who can not remember the past are doomed to repeat it.
 

reverend boltron

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"These also who erred in spirit will come to understanding, and those who complained will learn doctrine.? I'm basically telling you that there is hope for the people who are following the word of God but are mistaken in certain parts. i.e. different denominations of Christianity, the revelation of Jesus Christ, and so on and so forth. I wasn't being disrespectful, I was offering a means of agreement.
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: eits
i dunno, but i do know that the israeli state is run by a bunch of asshats who don't know the difference between shyt and apple butter. they terrorize the palestinians when the palestinians terrorize them and then go to war, calling it a war against terrorism. eat my ass, israel. conversely, eat my ass, palestine.
That last line doesn't absolve you of being an Anti-Semite.

We all know you are the local muslim. Your people are all about hate. Your post underscores it.

Why can't the Jews be allowed anywhere to call home? Their religion was there thousands of years before Mohammed started his little cult.

 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: reverend boltron
"These also who erred in spirit will come to understanding, and those who complained will learn doctrine.? I'm basically telling you that there is hope for the people who are following the word of God but are mistaken in certain parts. i.e. different denominations of Christianity, the revelation of Jesus Christ, and so on and so forth. I wasn't being disrespectful, I was offering a means of agreement.

Im fine with people bashing Israel I just cant stand those people who are convinced that Jews are going to hell. Thanks for clear that up.
 

reverend boltron

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Originally posted by: jagec
"chosen people" or not, that doesn't give them a free pass to indiscriminately kill civilians, no?

Did I say that it did? Nope, I was talking about their oppression of the Jewish people.
 

reverend boltron

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Originally posted by: Cooler
Originally posted by: reverend boltron
"These also who erred in spirit will come to understanding, and those who complained will learn doctrine.? I'm basically telling you that there is hope for the people who are following the word of God but are mistaken in certain parts. i.e. different denominations of Christianity, the revelation of Jesus Christ, and so on and so forth. I wasn't being disrespectful, I was offering a means of agreement.

Im fine with people bashing Israel I just can?t stand those people who are convinced that Jews are going to hell. (Factoid) we do not directly believe in an after life. Thanks for clearing that up.

Are you sure you don't believe in an afterlife? Because what about the Psalms? They talk an awful lot about sheol. And what about Samuel being contacted by the witch with Saul? Anyway, I didn't say that Jews were going to hell, it talks about the Jews being in the inner circle of the temple in the book of Revelation, with gentiles being in the outer circle. You can still be Jewish and believe in Jesus as the Messiah. Jews for Jesus, etc.

Edit: Anyway, when Jesus comes again, the Messiah comes (however you want to see it), I think we'll be on the same page, because He is coming, and there is the promise of the Messiah for you. Again, talking about Isaiah 29:24, erring in Spirit and coming to an understanding of doctrine.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Originally posted by: Cooler
Originally posted by: reverend boltron
"These also who erred in spirit will come to understanding, and those who complained will learn doctrine.? I'm basically telling you that there is hope for the people who are following the word of God but are mistaken in certain parts. i.e. different denominations of Christianity, the revelation of Jesus Christ, and so on and so forth. I wasn't being disrespectful, I was offering a means of agreement.

Im fine with people bashing Israel I just can?t stand those people who are convinced that Jews are going to hell. (Factoid) we do not directly believe in an after life. Thanks for clearing that up.

Are you sure you don't believe in an afterlife? Because what about the Psalms? They talk an awful lot about sheol. And what about Samuel being contacted by the witch with Saul? Anyway, I didn't say that Jews were going to hell, it talks about the Jews being in the inner circle of the temple in the book of Revelation, with gentiles being in the outer circle. You can still be Jewish and believe in Jesus as the Messiah. Jews for Jesus, etc.

Edit: Anyway, when Jesus comes again, the Messiah comes (however you want to see it), I think we'll be on the same page, because He is coming, and there is the promise of the Messiah for you. Again, talking about Isaiah 29:24, erring in Spirit and coming to an understanding of doctrine.

You CANNOT believe in Jesus and claim to be of Jewish faith. Ascribing any kind of divinity to a human being does not work in Judaism. It's impossible. Jews for Jesus is a complete scam, it's basically trying to convert Jews to be Christians with a cute name. And yes, Jews do believe in an afterlife, I don't know where he is coming from.
 

Doboji

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Alot of people in this thread and on this forum are some ignorant knuckleheads...

I for one am sick and tired of the Jew threads...

I for one am sick and tired of the steroetyping of Jews...

THE Jews run hollywood...

THE Jews control the money...

THE Jews are all rich...

THE JEWS
THE JEWS
THE JEWS

It's a damn good thing this is the internet... because if it were real life... things would be significantly uglier. But thats why such people come to the internet... because they can feel free to make their cowardly ignorant comments here where noone is going to beat their ass like they deserve.

It makes me pretty frustrated though to see all the anger towards the Jewish people... it's amazing to me how quickly people are willing to ascribe the actions of some jews to the entire jewish people. I support the actions of Israel... so if you're angry at Israel, feel free to be angry at me... but then there are people like my mother, who is absolutely opposed to Israels actions... and yet she is the recipient of anger simply because she is Jewish... this is in and of itself ridiculous.

The latest anti-jewish trend is this movement to crush the terminology of the anti-semetism itself... Calling someone an anti-semite now is seen so harshly EVEN when it's absolutely appropriate. People are bashed for talking about the holocaust now... I've seen it multiple times in this forum... someone starts a thread about the holocaust and within 10 posts... the fcking assclowns jump in with "Shut up about the holocaust already" or... "Don't you know other people besides the jews were killed"... I've seen this EVEN when the thread is referring to the holocaust as a whole. This backlash is ridiculous!!!
The holocaust is not some event that people should just shut up about because you are annoyed by it's reality. Go fck yourself..

Then it gets even more complex... with this garbage about Jew shut up... stop calling people out... don't you know you're going to get a backlash? FCK YOU... who the hell do you think you are? Some asshole runs off at the mouth about my entire ethnic group... and we're supposed to shut up and take it, so we can avoid a "backlash" ? fck off and go to hell you scumsucking assmonkeys... I'll call them out every fcking time... and if you have a problem with it you can fck off.

 

eits

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Originally posted by: Beachboy
Originally posted by: eits
i dunno, but i do know that the israeli state is run by a bunch of asshats who don't know the difference between shyt and apple butter. they terrorize the palestinians when the palestinians terrorize them and then go to war, calling it a war against terrorism. eat my ass, israel. conversely, eat my ass, palestine.
That last line doesn't absolve you of being an Anti-Semite.

We all know you are the local muslim. Your people are all about hate. Your post underscores it.

Why can't the Jews be allowed anywhere to call home? Their religion was there thousands of years before Mohammed started his little cult.

eh? i'm muslim? that's a new one.

i'm an anti-semite? hmm... that's a new one, too.... tell that to my best friend justin horenstein.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Originally posted by: eits
i dunno, but i do know that the israeli state is run by a bunch of asshats who don't know the difference between shyt and apple butter. they terrorize the palestinians when the palestinians terrorize them and then go to war, calling it a war against terrorism. eat my ass, israel. conversely, eat my ass, palestine.
That last line doesn't absolve you of being an Anti-Semite.

We all know you are the local muslim. Your people are all about hate. Your post underscores it.

Why can't the Jews be allowed anywhere to call home? Their religion was there thousands of years before Mohammed started his little cult.

eh? i'm muslim? that's a new one.

i'm an anti-semite? hmm... that's a new one, too.... tell that to my best friend justin horenstein.

Everyone knows you're a muslim and an anti-semite. There's no point in playing games about it.