kage69
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So?
The only downside I see is that the guy now has to wash the gas off his car before it damages that paint. The other guys, chalk that up to a lesson.
Is that, is that Crispin Glover? WTH happened to him?!
Nah that's the principle.
Slackers!
Crispin Glover is probably roaming a forest somewhere on all fours, dried blood crusted about his face, searching for mushrooms.
Packing heat?Sir, I'd like to buy you a beverage
Call me old fashioned, but I tend to prefer tactics that don't endanger my life. Only the opposition should be at risk from my actions. Incapactitating or detonating your own vehicle tends to limit your flight options. If he's wealthy or important enough to kidnap, he can afford a gun, a dog, professional protection, or all of the above. Shit happens and you have to make split second decisions when people punch that card for you, especially when outnumbered, I get it, just saying the odds of it going Greek tragedy for that method are nothing to sneeze at.
Well he was in danger, and he responded to stop the threat.Call me old fashioned, but I tend to prefer tactics that don't endanger my life. Only the opposition should be at risk from my actions. Incapactitating or detonating your own vehicle tends to limit your flight options. If he's wealthy or important enough to kidnap, he can afford a gun, a dog, professional protection, or all of the above. Shit happens and you have to make split second decisions when people punch that card for you, especially when outnumbered, I get it, just saying the odds of it going Greek tragedy for that method are nothing to sneeze at.
He would have undoubtedly immolated himself if he had set anything near that situation on fire. Friendly reminder, gasoline evaporates exceedingly quickly. A good 20% of that was aerosolized and evaporated by that point, forming a nice ankle-high plume in the surrounding 30 feet, along with a possible fireball centered on the vehicle a foot away from him.Well he was in danger, and he responded to stop the threat.
This appears to happen at night, not the best time to gas up, go to ATMs, etc., but sometimes unavoidable.
He was situationally aware, and recognized the threat immediately, and reacted. Torching your car sure beats the police showing up at his home to advise his family he wasn't coming home.
He would have undoubtedly immolated himself if he had set anything near that situation on fire. Friendly reminder, gasoline evaporates exceedingly quickly. A good 20% of that was aerosolized and evaporated by that point, forming a nice ankle-high plume in the surrounding 30 feet, along with a possible fireball centered on the vehicle a foot away from him.
Examples!
Packing heat?
Not quite, gasoline as a gas is heavier than air, so it sinks below nitrogen/oxygen/co2. It hovers around the grass like a blanket, and when it ignites, it *very* quickly spreads until it reaches the end of it's viable fuel source, at which point if it's successfully heated the surrounding material (dry grass, pants, rubber, plastic) to ignition point, those burn instead.Interesting, so basically in that 2nd video a large amount (20%) of that gasoline was airborne around the fire, so when you ignite the liquid it then travels up to the airborne stuff - then the flame makes it a liquid again - then it drops down to the floor (hence the grass around it lighting). Am i describing that correctly?
He would have undoubtedly immolated himself if he had set anything near that situation on fire. Friendly reminder, gasoline evaporates exceedingly quickly. A good 20% of that was aerosolized and evaporated by that point, forming a nice ankle-high plume in the surrounding 30 feet, along with a possible fireball centered on the vehicle a foot away from him.
Examples!
Not quite, gasoline as a gas is heavier than air, so it sinks below nitrogen/oxygen/co2. It hovers around the grass like a blanket, and when it ignites, it *very* quickly spreads until it reaches the end of it's viable fuel source, at which point if it's successfully heated the surrounding material (dry grass, pants, rubber, plastic) to ignition point, those burn instead.
In the case of our friend with the gasoline hose, if he had ignited that, about a 40' radius starting around where the van was would have ignited very quickly, and *might* not have caused significant damage to him personally, though he was holding the fuel source. Odds are good they would have been spooked further, his vehicle would have burst into flames (or at least the hood area), and he might have been turned into a fireball.