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Jesus is not born on Dec

Well, if you really want to ge technical, The Discover Channel had a show on the other night that says the birth was 6 YEARS earlier.

Astronomers have placed the planets and stars to show that the Star (or Planet) would have appeared then. Also errors by the Monk who computed the first calender.
 
Oh my god! You're right! Do you what that means? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT FREAKING MEANS?!?!?!?!?








Actually I learned that in first grade, but thanks for the reminder.
 


<< Eh, July? Give or take a month or two maybe and you've hit the spot. >>



Yeah,i should say around July, cuz thats when the Roman took their census.
Wow, actually it surprises me that most of ATOTers know this!
 
i remember reading that the church made christmas on the 25th to help convert the other pagan's during the crusades, because most of them celebrated the winter solstice
 
Most all of the Christian holidays are compromises with other religions to help gain converts. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that is how it is.
 
No one really knows when Jesus was born, despite strong evidence that he was born in the spring/summer, no one knows for sure.
 
Actually the beginning of October is more likely.

However, the shepherds would not have been with their flocks in the fields in December; the Roman empire would not have required people to travel for a census in Winter; and yes, the 25th of December was well established as a celebration of a time for drunken feasting and present giving (like today) to honor the return of the Sun.
 


<< i remember reading that the church made christmas on the 25th to help convert the other pagan's during the crusades, because most of them celebrated the winter solstice >>


originaly it was either on the 21st or the 22nd, but it is true, the catholic church adopted this festival.. why do you think we have christmas trees 😉
 


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<< i remember reading that the church made christmas on the 25th to help convert the other pagan's during the crusades, because most of them celebrated the winter solstice >>


originaly it was either on the 21st or the 22nd, but it is true, the catholic church adopted this festival.. why do you think we have christmas trees 😉 >>



speaking of adoption, Ester rabits and eggs are result from adoption as well.
 


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<< i remember reading that the church made christmas on the 25th to help convert the other pagan's during the crusades, because most of them celebrated the winter solstice >>


originaly it was either on the 21st or the 22nd, but it is true, the catholic church adopted this festival.. why do you think we have christmas trees 😉 >>



pagans used the trees during worship (nature and such)
but the practice of having a christmas tree inside the home wasn't made widely popular until Queen Victoria's German husband Prince Albert helped to make the Christmas tree as popular in Britain as they where in his native Germany, when he brought one to Windsor Castle in the 1840's. Since the Queen had one in this age, everyone followed suit and, thus became a tradition.
 
Who really cares? The point is to go to church, give thanks to God that he sent his Son to earth to ultimately die for your sins, go home, open presents, have dinner, ultimately have a fight with relatives, go to a friend's house, go Christmas bar-hopping, find the one open bar near the ship channel, get drunk, and throw up, drive home.
 
The TRUE reason for the season is Solstice.

Read this about Chirstamas. Seems that our Christmass "tradition" is pretty new.
 
Well like it or not it's celibrated today so......

If you guys want to argue back and forth that's your buis.

Personally I beleive the mistake was made due to the times being so primative. I don't really mind having Christmas on Dec. 25 and too me that's the day.
 
December 25th is the birthday of Mithra/Mithras, the Roman God of Light. It was adopted by the Christian religion as the birthday of Jesus to make the conversion to the Christian religion more palatable to practicioners of Mithraism. Likewise with the concept of Satan having horns being taken from the notion of the Horned God in some of the Pagan religions. The Horned God was portrayed as having deer antlers, due to the fact that he was supposed to represent nature and the wild. The Christian religion adopted the myth that Satan had horns, thus making the Pagan religions appear evil in comparison to Christianity by insinuating that they worshipped the antithesis of the God of the Christian religion.

You do realize that this is the third or fourth Thread in the last couple of days to cover this topic?
 
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