Jesus dolls rejected from Toys for Tots program

[Zysoclaplem]

Stop forcing Christianity on kids at a young age. Problem solved. No need to waste more money on making plastic Jesus dolls that look like Colin Farrell from Miami Vice.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

So do you believe they should only bring happiness to the lives of little Christian kids, not to the unfortunate who do not share your beliefs?

Christian kids get toys from that program too don't they? Why turn down a donation that some kids would like. No one forces a kid to take a religious toy. There are tons of non-religious toys available.

They have no way of knowing what religion the kid is - they just get the toys at random based on their age group. Again - why do you only care about the Christian children?

i never implied i only cared about Christian children so kindly fvck off with trying to go there.

I'm only trying to find your true reasoning - you wouldn't provide it until now, so what did you expect me to do?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

So do you believe they should only bring happiness to the lives of little Christian kids, not to the unfortunate who do not share your beliefs?

Christian kids get toys from that program too don't they? Why turn down a donation that some kids would like. No one forces a kid to take a religious toy. There are tons of non-religious toys available.

They have no way of knowing what religion the kid is - they just get the toys at random based on their age group. Again - why do you only care about the Christian children?

i never implied i only cared about Christian children so kindly fvck off with trying to go there.

I'm only trying to find your true reasoning - you wouldn't provide it until now, so what did you expect me to do?

not jump to conclusions?

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

what if it was a Muhammad doll, or a Moses doll, or a hindu deity doll that was rejected. would you still not give to toys for tots?

I prefer the darwin doll, the homosexual dolls, and the nambla dolls.


My guess is that this is exactly the reaction the organization was going for, they knew they dolls would be rejected and saw it as an opportunity to build up the "anti-pc" non-believers are stealing christmas lobby. I'm sure it doesn't hurt their traffic to make it onto nbc either.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

what if it was a Muhammad doll, or a Moses doll, or a hindu deity doll that was rejected. would you still not give to toys for tots?

Yep, same premise.

damn you for not posting a flameworthy reply

you have your beliefs, I have mine. I believe the less religion a child has in his/her life, the better off the child is. No need to bring up a kid as a Christian/Hindu/Jew/Muslim/etc. Let him/her grow up and make up their own mind.

I for one, will be donating extra to Toys for Tots this year

 

[BigJ]

I don't have a problem with what they're doing.

It's a god awful toy anyway.

 

[GasX]

Am I really the only one seeing the irony about rejecting toy Jesus dolls as a gift for poor children on a holiday celebrating the BIRTH OF JESUS?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

what if it was a Muhammad doll, or a Moses doll, or a hindu deity doll that was rejected. would you still not give to toys for tots?

Yep, same premise.

damn you for not posting a flameworthy reply

you have your beliefs, I have mine. I believe the less religion a child has in his/her life, the better off the child is. No need to bring up a kid as a Christian/Hindu/Jew/Muslim/etc. Let him/her grow up and make up their own mind.

I for one, will be donating extra to Toys for Tots this year

Very civil response. :thumbsup:
Just cause we don't share the same view doesn't mean we have to hate on each other.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
Am I really the only one seeing the irony about rejecting toy Jesus dolls as a gift for poor children on a holiday celebrating the BIRTH OF JESUS?

Considering that Christmas is pretty much a secular holiday these days, no I don't see it.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: Ryan
They have no way of knowing what religion the kid is - they just get the toys at random based on their age group.

mosh, you mind replying to the non flambait part?
i don't see this as being PC, just more like, "why give a christian doll to a muslim kid?" that would be dumb. Sure they could start polling families for their religion and sort toys based on religion, but that's a lot of volunteer work i'd rather see spent collecting and distributing toys.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Mwilding
Am I really the only one seeing the irony about rejecting toy Jesus dolls as a gift for poor children on a holiday celebrating the BIRTH OF JESUS?

Considering that Christmas is pretty much a secular holiday these days, no I don't see it.

I understand that you are right in that observation, but that in itself is part of the irony...

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Mwilding
Am I really the only one seeing the irony about rejecting toy Jesus dolls as a gift for poor children on a holiday celebrating the BIRTH OF JESUS?

Considering that Christmas is pretty much a secular holiday these days, no I don't see it.

I understand that you are right in that observation, but that in itself is part of the irony...

Actually I lied and did have a chuckle, but I figured I'd post the first response just to get it out of the way.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

So do you believe they should only bring happiness to the lives of little Christian kids, not to the unfortunate who do not share your beliefs?

Christian kids get toys from that program too don't they? Why turn down a donation that some kids would like. No one forces a kid to take a religious toy. There are tons of non-religious toys available.

If you would have read the article, you would see that they have no way of knowing which kid is going to get which toy.

So a boy can get a girl's toy?

They could leave these toy's unwrapped so the child knows what he/she is getting. I still say they shouldn't turn down donations.

Wrapping the toys would cost the organizations an arm and a leg.

Giving them to the children unwrapped spoils an integral part of opening gifts.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: Ryan
They have no way of knowing what religion the kid is - they just get the toys at random based on their age group.

mosh, you mind replying to the non flambait part?
i don't see this as being PC, just more like, "why give a christian doll to a muslim kid?" that would be dumb. Sure they could start polling families for their religion and sort toys based on religion, but that's a lot of volunteer work i'd rather see spent collecting and distributing toys.

The issue is not one of cross-religion confusion. Why the hell would a muslim kid get a Christmas present? It's a matter of whether or not the recipient is a practicing Christian and how receptive they would be to a scripture quoting doll. As BigJ pointed out, it has become a mostly secular holiday, but that just seperates the practicing christians from the people decended from practicing christians...

Kids (being kids) don't want sweaters or religious items, THEY WANT A Wii, DAMMIT!

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

So not giving a Jesus doll that has a recorded voice telling you to be Christian to a possibly Muslim or Jewish or non-religous child is being PC? Surely you have better critical thinking skills than that.

Christian kid would want it because he likes Jesus.
Muslim kid would like it because it can be used to burn in effigy.
Jewish kids...aren't poor so it's irrelevant.

LMAO! Nice

 

[mordantmonkey]

meh, i'm an atheist and i co-opt christmas like the christians try to co-opt the word marriage.

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
not jump to conclusions?

Well then what good is this damn 'jump to conclusions' mat for?

 

[her209]

Oh boys, what's next!? The canned food drives won't accept anything that isn't koscher (sp).

 

[Shadowknight]

Too bad it wasn't one of the "Buddy Chirst" dolls.

 

[glenn beck]

looks like they are taking them now


http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1448624.html

 

[Xyo II]

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Originally posted by: moshquerade
not jump to conclusions?

Well then what good is this damn 'jump to conclusions' mat for?

Ahahaha that made me chuckle. :laugh:

 

[xcript]

Originally posted by: glenn beck
looks like they are taking them now

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1448624.html

:thumbsdown:

 

[latino666]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: glenn beck
looks like they are taking them now

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1448624.html

:thumbsdown:

At least some poor Christian boy or girl will get something on Christmas Day.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Well, I'm won't be giving to Toys for Tots this Christmas season like I have in the past. I'll find another organization who isn't sucking up to the PCers in the country.

So not giving a Jesus doll that has a recorded voice telling you to be Christian to a possibly Muslim or Jewish or non-religous child is being PC? Surely you have better critical thinking skills than that.

Don't call me shirley.

anyways, give the toys to a poor Christian school or something. there are ways to make use of them.

FINDING the poor christian school adds administrative costs. Good charities have low administrative costs. Those dolls were more trouble than they were worth. I'm also sure that the toy company had another, religious charity to send their jesus dolls to.

+ who gives a poor kid a fvcking religious toy??????????? I wanted GI Joes, He Man, and Ninja Fvcking Turtles. The sermon on the mount is not fun and has no place coming out of an action figure.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: latino666

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: glenn beck
looks like they are taking them now

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1448624.html

:thumbsdown:

At least some poor Christian boy or girl will get something on Christmas Day.

No, the poor christian kid will be doubly fvcked. 1) they're poor. 2) instead of getting a cool toy that shoots freakin' laser beems and blows sh!t up, he gets a jesus doll that is as fun as sunday school.

Do you really think that a christian 8 year old wants a talking holy-mother-mary doll? The parents may want the kid to get the doll, but the only use most christian kids would get out of them would involve a microwave or a magnifying glass. Either that, or they'll just pretend that thos POS's are just lame gi joes.