Jerry O'Connell's parody of Tom Cruise

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Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: pyonir
I never saw the original Cruise one until i watched it in this thread. WTF was he babbling on about half the thing? I made sense about 15% of the time. :confused:

The O'Connell parody is pretty funny though...i like that guy.

Cruise is batshit insane. He really makes it clear for everyone.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: crystal
So tell me why all the hate? Because he believes in Scientology? Why Scientology members got such hate?

For the same reason we hate Nigerian scammers - while we're not stupid enough to fall for their garbage (and anymore, decent email filters knock out 99% of it, eliminating the annoyance of seeing those emails in our inboxes), we hate to see them scam other people out of their money.
 

jhu

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Originally posted by: Glitchny
lol its cause Scientology was created to make money. you dont get to know more about th religion that you are part of until you PAY them more money to move up in the "church" ranks. Also known as a tiered payment system. I dont believe in any religion but Scientology is a joke. its a bad sci-fi story written by a pederast.

back in the middle ages, the rich gave tithes to the church for "indulgences" which would supposedly allow them to go to heaven. what's the difference? scientology as an organization is just a money making scam. but scientology as a religion is no different from any other mainstream religion.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: jhu
Originally posted by: Glitchny
lol its cause Scientology was created to make money. you dont get to know more about th religion that you are part of until you PAY them more money to move up in the "church" ranks. Also known as a tiered payment system. I dont believe in any religion but Scientology is a joke. its a bad sci-fi story written by a pederast.

back in the middle ages, the rich gave tithes to the church for "indulgences" which would supposedly allow them to go to heaven. what's the difference? scientology as an organization is just a money making scam. but scientology as a religion is no different from any other mainstream religion.

:thumbsup:
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: jhu
Originally posted by: Glitchny
lol its cause Scientology was created to make money. you dont get to know more about th religion that you are part of until you PAY them more money to move up in the "church" ranks. Also known as a tiered payment system. I dont believe in any religion but Scientology is a joke. its a bad sci-fi story written by a pederast.

back in the middle ages, the rich gave tithes to the church for "indulgences" which would supposedly allow them to go to heaven. what's the difference? scientology as an organization is just a money making scam. but scientology as a religion is no different from any other mainstream religion.

Do we live in the middle ages. Yes, any organization that does what the christian church did in the middle ages should be hated. The fact is, though, that the christian church of today is much different than it was back in the day. Scientology's current actions are far more disturbing than your average church.

This is coming from an atheist.


 
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Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: gramboh
Xenu.net to learn something about it. The belief system is insane. Also, there is relatively well documented evidence around the money schemes involved (taking money from members).

I did read a little bit about it on wiki before posting the questions. So what if it started by a scifi author about a few decades ago. One of a major current religion began by a shepherd (or it was a shepherd's son) a few thousand years ago... The point I try to get across is, doesn't matter what their profession - if they have the visions/wisdoms/knowledges to found anything, more power to them.
About the money thing - which Christian sect believes that it is right and proper where you give % of your income? Should I be hateful toward its members?

lol its cause Scientology was created to make money. you dont get to know more about th religion that you are part of until you PAY them more money to move up in the "church" ranks. Also known as a tiered payment system. I dont believe in any religion but Scientology is a joke. its a bad sci-fi story written by a pederast.

All institutions require fund to operate. So what if its members "PAY/DONATE" to it so they will have more saying.
Look at it this way, people join it with their free will. Choose to give ("Pay for position") or not with their free will. Leave with their free will. While you might might not agree with what it teaches, its members agree with its ideas and goals. So my original questions still stand, why do you hate them or anything that related to them?

Do you know anything about the bible? It doesn't say that paying money to the church gets you to heaven. In fact, it encourages giving money to the poor.
 

crystal

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You guys talk about scam & what not and your dislike of them.. so let me ask another question. Who are they scam money off? Its member or some plain Joe on the street? I have to assume its members, that means they are the "victims". But then you go about hating everything about it - from its ideology to the people in it, whom you already consider a "victim".
To IAteYourMother - I never say paying money to get into heaven. I am not sure these people believe in heaven. I only say they pay money to increase their standing within the church in respond to Glitchny's post. But the way I see it, to moves up in any organization you will have to pay one way or another. The currency might not be the "immoral/dirty" money but still as valuable.
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ok...
what i see is a b grade star trying to get some free publicity by mocking a real movie star.

reminds me of that alanis my humps parody... course her own career is on the skids

my cynical side thinks their agents put them up to this stuff.

It pains me to see Tom Cruise referred to as a "real movie star." Yes, I admit that he's made obscene amounts of money and that he has been in some good movies (by some people's standards). I'm just wondering if he sold his soul to do it, because I just don't know if I see his acting brilliance. No Oscars at least? Not that I'm trying to say Jerry O'Connell is any kind of star, but I do have to admit that I prefer him to Tom Cruise. (Doesn't hurt that I've been streaming Sliders via Netflix for the last 3 days.)

<edit> Oh wait, O'Connell is married to Rebecca Romijn? He is the winner.

Movie Star <> Good Actor. That is te basis of your confusion. He is definitely a movie star, whether he is a good actor is up to debate.

Cruise chooses only to be in flicks representing the worst of Hollywood big-budget/lowest-common-denominator turds so his talent is irrelevant. Clearly, he is financially successful but at the same time forgettable. So, if anything, I would lump him into the B-grade category and reserve A-grade for more talented and versatile stage and screen actors. At least O'Connell has a sense of humour and moreover does not take himself too seriously. So kudos to him.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ok...
what i see is a b grade star trying to get some free publicity by mocking a real movie star.

reminds me of that alanis my humps parody... course her own career is on the skids

my cynical side thinks their agents put them up to this stuff.

It pains me to see Tom Cruise referred to as a "real movie star." Yes, I admit that he's made obscene amounts of money and that he has been in some good movies (by some people's standards). I'm just wondering if he sold his soul to do it, because I just don't know if I see his acting brilliance. No Oscars at least? Not that I'm trying to say Jerry O'Connell is any kind of star, but I do have to admit that I prefer him to Tom Cruise. (Doesn't hurt that I've been streaming Sliders via Netflix for the last 3 days.)

<edit> Oh wait, O'Connell is married to Rebecca Romijn? He is the winner.

Movie Star <> Good Actor. That is te basis of your confusion. He is definitely a movie star, whether he is a good actor is up to debate.

Cruise chooses only to be in flicks representing the worst of Hollywood big-budget/lowest-common-denominator turds so his talent is irrelevant. Clearly, he is financially successful but at the same time forgettable. So, if anything, I would lump him into the B-grade category and reserve A-grade for more talented and versatile stage and screen actors. At least O'Connell has a sense of humour and moreover does not take himself too seriously. So kudos to him.

Yeah, but it is exactly the median movies that make you a big star.
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: sdifox

Yeah, but it is exactly the median movies that make you a big star.

Which, given integrity and true love of the art would enable doing more meaningful and fulfilling projects as well if not transitioning away from the pablum altogether.

 

timosyy

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Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: gramboh
Xenu.net to learn something about it. The belief system is insane. Also, there is relatively well documented evidence around the money schemes involved (taking money from members).

I did read a little bit about it on wiki before posting the questions. So what if it started by a scifi author about a few decades ago. One of a major current religion began by a shepherd (or it was a shepherd's son) a few thousand years ago... The point I try to get across is, doesn't matter what their profession - if they have the visions/wisdoms/knowledges to found anything, more power to them.
About the money thing - which Christian sect believes that it is right and proper where you give % of your income? Should I be hateful toward its members?

o_O.

Christianity as a religion is simply the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy through the figure of Christ, who was a carpenter's son. Being which, its "creation" involved a span of hundreds of years. It's not like some guy was like "hey lets make a religion, and we'll make it about me, and we'll make tons of money". I mean, Jesus was crucified in his early 30s and all his disciples were beheaded/executed/hanged/stoned. You think He/they did that for a religion they made up so 2000 years later the church would be rich or something? The church as a whole wasn't even for power until the Romans took a hold of it much later, at which point its motives became rather base.

The origins of Scientology are flimsy by comparison, and imo, rather transparent.
 

grrl

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

So because he hasn't won an Oscar, he's not a "real movie star"? Morgan Freeman didn't win his first until what, 2005? Like someone else said, being a "real movie star" isn't the same as being a critically acclaimed and heralded actor.

And being critically acclaimed doesn't always mean you are a good actor.
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: grrl
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

So because he hasn't won an Oscar, he's not a "real movie star"? Morgan Freeman didn't win his first until what, 2005? Like someone else said, being a "real movie star" isn't the same as being a critically acclaimed and heralded actor.

And being critically acclaimed doesn't always mean you are a good actor.

Welp, AMPAS awards are promotionally motivated and seem largely decided upon by politics but in any case are by peers rather than critics.

Indubitably, however, there is a disconnect betwixt that which is popular and that which is critically acclaimed. It seems increasingly rare to sassify both as the hoi polloi demand more swill and Hollywood errs on the side of bidness over art.
 

NGC_604

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Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: gramboh
Xenu.net to learn something about it. The belief system is insane. Also, there is relatively well documented evidence around the money schemes involved (taking money from members).

I did read a little bit about it on wiki before posting the questions. So what if it started by a scifi author about a few decades ago. One of a major current religion began by a shepherd (or it was a shepherd's son) a few thousand years ago... The point I try to get across is, doesn't matter what their profession - if they have the visions/wisdoms/knowledges to found anything, more power to them.
About the money thing - which Christian sect believes that it is right and proper where you give % of your income? Should I be hateful toward its members?

lol its cause Scientology was created to make money. you dont get to know more about th religion that you are part of until you PAY them more money to move up in the "church" ranks. Also known as a tiered payment system. I dont believe in any religion but Scientology is a joke. its a bad sci-fi story written by a pederast.

All institutions require fund to operate. So what if its members "PAY/DONATE" to it so they will have more saying.
Look at it this way, people join it with their free will. Choose to give ("Pay for position") or not with their free will. Leave with their free will. While you might might not agree with what it teaches, its members agree with its ideas and goals. So my original questions still stand, why do you hate them or anything that related to them?

:laugh: sure they can. Go read up on all the people who try to leave and end up being harrased, threatened, and crippled financially. I'm not a big fan of any religion, but at least when I stopped going to a Catholic church, I was able to do so without any worries or fear for my life.