Jerry Falwell is dead according to his office

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ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Termagant
Both leave legacies of intolerance, only on different levels of magnitude.

But I forget, you are incapable of seeing in shades of gray because that is a "weak" trait of "in-absolute liberals." Along with logic and reason.
Do you not understand the difference between a guy who said gays are evil and a guy who ordered the killing of thousands of people?

There is NOTHING that Jerry did that can ever compare with what Saddam did.

BTW if you want to talk about a legacy of intolerance let?s talk about the people right here in this thread and their reaction to the death of Falwell.

"I don't think Falwell is a good person and I think the world will be a better place with him not in it"
"So he's really dead? When's the parad...... I mean funeral? "
"I guess the Devil finally got tired,"
"The world is better off without that wacko "
"R.I.H." That's a nice one...
"he is dead I am glad he deserves it. ... he was truly a asshat "

Ok so you don?t like the guy, but that?s no reason to rejoice at his death.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Termagant
Both leave legacies of intolerance, only on different levels of magnitude.

But I forget, you are incapable of seeing in shades of gray because that is a "weak" trait of "in-absolute liberals." Along with logic and reason.
Do you not understand the difference between a guy who said gays are evil and a guy who ordered the killing of thousands of people?

There is NOTHING that Jerry did that can ever compare with what Saddam did.

BTW if you want to talk about a legacy of intolerance let?s talk about the people right here in this thread and their reaction to the death of Falwell.

"I don't think Falwell is a good person and I think the world will be a better place with him not in it"
"So he's really dead? When's the parad...... I mean funeral? "
"I guess the Devil finally got tired,"
"The world is better off without that wacko "
"R.I.H." That's a nice one...
"he is dead I am glad he deserves it. ... he was truly a asshat "

Ok so you don?t like the guy, but that?s no reason to rejoice at his death.

yes it is.
 

Arcex

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Termagant
Both leave legacies of intolerance, only on different levels of magnitude.

But I forget, you are incapable of seeing in shades of gray because that is a "weak" trait of "in-absolute liberals." Along with logic and reason.
Do you not understand the difference between a guy who said gays are evil and a guy who ordered the killing of thousands of people?

There is NOTHING that Jerry did that can ever compare with what Saddam did.

BTW if you want to talk about a legacy of intolerance let?s talk about the people right here in this thread and their reaction to the death of Falwell.

"I don't think Falwell is a good person and I think the world will be a better place with him not in it"
"So he's really dead? When's the parad...... I mean funeral? "
"I guess the Devil finally got tired,"
"The world is better off without that wacko "
"R.I.H." That's a nice one...
"he is dead I am glad he deserves it. ... he was truly a asshat "

Ok so you don?t like the guy, but that?s no reason to rejoice at his death.

He quoted me, I feel honored... but stop putting words in my mouth, I've said it at least 2 times, I don't rejoice at his death, now he's a martyr, but I still think the world is a better place without him in it. Do you honestly feel he was a power for good in this world?
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Termagant
Both leave legacies of intolerance, only on different levels of magnitude.

But I forget, you are incapable of seeing in shades of gray because that is a "weak" trait of "in-absolute liberals." Along with logic and reason.
Do you not understand the difference between a guy who said gays are evil and a guy who ordered the killing of thousands of people?

There is NOTHING that Jerry did that can ever compare with what Saddam did.

BTW if you want to talk about a legacy of intolerance let?s talk about the people right here in this thread and their reaction to the death of Falwell.

"I don't think Falwell is a good person and I think the world will be a better place with him not in it"
"So he's really dead? When's the parad...... I mean funeral? "
"I guess the Devil finally got tired,"
"The world is better off without that wacko "
"R.I.H." That's a nice one...
"he is dead I am glad he deserves it. ... he was truly a asshat "

Ok so you don?t like the guy, but that?s no reason to rejoice at his death.

What do you mean "there is no reason to rejoice"? Shouldn't his followers be happy he will finally meet his maker? What's the point of preaching "life after death in heaven" then? Let's not get caught up in double standards. He's dead - celebrate!
 

manowar821

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I've actually seen a couple people here already blame the majority of this wave of hatred toward Falwell on "the left".

What, are you retarded?

The man was a despicable pig, get over yourselves, like you've never even had a passing thought of joy or relief after a person you hated died. You're not f-ing saints, you're just like everyone else. The sooner you realize that, the better.

Stupid partisan hacks.
 

tealk

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You are home Jerry, Bless you.

Lord, they know not wheat they speak. Forgive them. Amen
 

thraashman

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I look at it this way if we want to do a comparison. How many people's lives were adversely affected by Saddam. The country of Iraq has a population of approx. 26 million. Since the security in Iraq was actually far better under Saddam, we'll estimate high and say that 5 million lives were affected adversely, that's about 20% of the Iraq population. And I mean adversely enough to truly be cited. That's including all those killed and imprisoned and tortured and starved. Overall he didn't treat all his people that bad, or he would've been deposed by his own people. I'm not saying Saddam was anything other than a horrible man, just because a murderer doesn't kill everyone he meets doesn't make him merciful.

Now Jerry Falwell. Anyone have the numbers on how many followers he had? We'll make an estimate. This nation of 300 million is overwhelmingly Christian. We'll estimate low at 80% since the actual number is higher. Then we'll say of that group, 1% actually listened to Falwel and agreed with what he said and believed him and heeded his words. That makes approx 2.4 million bigots he helped create. Now think of how many lives those 2.4 million bigots have adversely affected. Even if each has only adversely affected 2, that makes it match the high estimate of Saddam.

In 20 years the legacy of Saddam will be forgotten, or at least completely obliterated. In 20 years, the legacy of Jerry Falwell will have caused as much harm as any man who ever lived. I hate that I'm glad over the death of another human being, but at times I'm not sure Jerry Falwell could even be called a human. In my eyes he lost that right a long time ago. Same goes for Pat Robertson.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: tealk
You are home Jerry, Bless you.

Lord, they know not wheat they speak. Forgive them. Amen

Satan is busy trying to figure out which circle of hell to put him in.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: thraashman
I look at it this way if we want to do a comparison. How many people's lives were adversely affected by Saddam. The country of Iraq has a population of approx. 26 million. Since the security in Iraq was actually far better under Saddam, we'll estimate high and say that 5 million lives were affected adversely, that's about 20% of the Iraq population. And I mean adversely enough to truly be cited. That's including all those killed and imprisoned and tortured and starved. Overall he didn't treat all his people that bad, or he would've been deposed by his own people. I'm not saying Saddam was anything other than a horrible man, just because a murderer doesn't kill everyone he meets doesn't make him merciful.

Now Jerry Falwell. Anyone have the numbers on how many followers he had? We'll make an estimate. This nation of 300 million is overwhelmingly Christian. We'll estimate low at 80% since the actual number is higher. Then we'll say of that group, 1% actually listened to Falwel and agreed with what he said and believed him and heeded his words. That makes approx 2.4 million bigots he helped create. Now think of how many lives those 2.4 million bigots have adversely affected. Even if each has only adversely affected 2, that makes it match the high estimate of Saddam.

In 20 years the legacy of Saddam will be forgotten, or at least completely obliterated. In 20 years, the legacy of Jerry Falwell will have caused as much harm as any man who ever lived. I hate that I'm glad over the death of another human being, but at times I'm not sure Jerry Falwell could even be called a human. In my eyes he lost that right a long time ago. Same goes for Pat Robertson.

LOL you guys are fooking insane...I mean come on...doing little happy-leftie-math to justify that "Falwell was worse than Saddam?". No...he's "caused as much harm as any man who ever lived."

Fooking insane...in serious need of psychological help.
 

Arcex

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Why do I have to not like him cause I'm a lefty? Can't I not like him because of what I know about his personality and his past? If I have an honestly good reason not to like someone why do you have to assume its because I'm liberal? Here's a shocker, not every conservative liked him either. Stop politicizing everything, the isn't about your intolerance for those who disagree with you, it's about Falwells intolerance for those who disagreed with him.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Arcex
Why do I have to not like him cause I'm a lefty? Can't I not like him because of what I know about his personality and his past? If I have an honestly good reason not to like someone why do you have to assume its because I'm liberal? Here's a shocker, not every conservative liked him either. Stop politicizing everything, the isn't about your intolerance for those who disagree with you, sheesh.

I'm assuming you are referring to me? I didn't like the guy either, he was a class A1 idiot. If there is a heaven/hell, I'm assuming he's gone south for the winter.

As far a politicizing everything, this is the P&N forum. Go to the ATOT thread if you don't like it. The loonie left is acting as it usually does - full of hate and venom and illogical thinking (closer to Jerry than they think) - and I'm just exposing it like I usually do :D
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Arcex
Why do I have to not like him cause I'm a lefty? Can't I not like him because of what I know about his personality and his past? If I have an honestly good reason not to like someone why do you have to assume its because I'm liberal? Here's a shocker, not every conservative liked him either. Stop politicizing everything, the isn't about your intolerance for those who disagree with you, sheesh.

I'm assuming you are referring to me? I didn't like the guy either, he was a class A1 idiot. If there is a heaven/hell, I'm assuming he's gone south for the winter.

As far a politicizing everything, this is the P&N forum. Go to the ATOT thread if you don't like it. The loonie left is acting as it usually does - full of hate and venom and illogical thinking (closer to Jerry than they think) - and I'm just exposing it like I usually do :D

Oh shut up. :laugh:
 

Arcex

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Arcex
Why do I have to not like him cause I'm a lefty? Can't I not like him because of what I know about his personality and his past? If I have an honestly good reason not to like someone why do you have to assume its because I'm liberal? Here's a shocker, not every conservative liked him either. Stop politicizing everything, the isn't about your intolerance for those who disagree with you, sheesh.

I'm assuming you are referring to me? I didn't like the guy either, he was a class A1 idiot. If there is a heaven/hell, I'm assuming he's gone south for the winter.

As far a politicizing everything, this is the P&N forum. Go to the ATOT thread if you don't like it. The loonie left is acting as it usually does - full of hate and venom and illogical thinking (closer to Jerry than they think) - and I'm just exposing it like I usually do :D

No you're not! You're making a blanket assumption that everyone who didn't like him is a liberal and/or every liberal is glad he's dead. You know what they say about people who assume? They make an ass out of you and you. :p

(And yes, I meant to say "you" twice.)
 

CitizenKain

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I wonder what sort of fun stuff people will dig up about him now that he is dead? Will someone find a collection of little shoes and bunch of unmarked graves in a house somewhere? It wasn't until Strom Thurmond bit it that we discovered what while he didn't like the idea of integration, he had no problems nailing the family maid.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Arcex
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Arcex
Why do I have to not like him cause I'm a lefty? Can't I not like him because of what I know about his personality and his past? If I have an honestly good reason not to like someone why do you have to assume its because I'm liberal? Here's a shocker, not every conservative liked him either. Stop politicizing everything, the isn't about your intolerance for those who disagree with you, sheesh.

I'm assuming you are referring to me? I didn't like the guy either, he was a class A1 idiot. If there is a heaven/hell, I'm assuming he's gone south for the winter.

As far a politicizing everything, this is the P&N forum. Go to the ATOT thread if you don't like it. The loonie left is acting as it usually does - full of hate and venom and illogical thinking (closer to Jerry than they think) - and I'm just exposing it like I usually do :D

No you're not! You're making a blanket assumption that everyone who didn't like him is a liberal and/or every liberal is glad he's dead. You know what they say about people who assume? They make an ass out of you and you. :p

(And yes, I meant to say "you" twice.)

I said loonie left (and moonbat), I never once used the word liberal. Two very different groups of people (just like you have to distinguish between conservatives and the religious right wingers). Sounds like someone else is doing the ASSumptions here...

manowar821: :cookie:
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: thraashman
I look at it this way if we want to do a comparison. How many people's lives were adversely affected by Saddam. The country of Iraq has a population of approx. 26 million. Since the security in Iraq was actually far better under Saddam, we'll estimate high and say that 5 million lives were affected adversely, that's about 20% of the Iraq population. And I mean adversely enough to truly be cited. That's including all those killed and imprisoned and tortured and starved. Overall he didn't treat all his people that bad, or he would've been deposed by his own people. I'm not saying Saddam was anything other than a horrible man, just because a murderer doesn't kill everyone he meets doesn't make him merciful.

Now Jerry Falwell. Anyone have the numbers on how many followers he had? We'll make an estimate. This nation of 300 million is overwhelmingly Christian. We'll estimate low at 80% since the actual number is higher. Then we'll say of that group, 1% actually listened to Falwel and agreed with what he said and believed him and heeded his words. That makes approx 2.4 million bigots he helped create. Now think of how many lives those 2.4 million bigots have adversely affected. Even if each has only adversely affected 2, that makes it match the high estimate of Saddam.

In 20 years the legacy of Saddam will be forgotten, or at least completely obliterated. In 20 years, the legacy of Jerry Falwell will have caused as much harm as any man who ever lived. I hate that I'm glad over the death of another human being, but at times I'm not sure Jerry Falwell could even be called a human. In my eyes he lost that right a long time ago. Same goes for Pat Robertson.

LOL you guys are fooking insane...I mean come on...doing little happy-leftie-math to justify that "Falwell was worse than Saddam?". No...he's "caused as much harm as any man who ever lived."

Fooking insane...in serious need of psychological help.

I said adversely affected. There are levels of adversely affected. Stalin and Hitler both murdered, starved, and brainwashed millions. They by far are the worst in modern history. In comparison, Falwell is a kitten compared to a Lion. But then again, in comparison to them, Saddam is only a full grown housecat compared to a lion. Or then I can comment on less extreme levels of adversely affecting.

George W Bush and his policies and war have adversely affected many in this nation. There is large fluctuation there though. The troops and their family are at the high end, then there's the poor, and the people who just like having the civil liberties the constitution guarantees. But he has at least tried to balance the bad with good to some degree. The tax cuts, while they mostly affect people who don't need the money, they do affect some people good. While I don't agree with the "faith based initiatives" they've actually helped people I'm sure. And really, outside of pushing for an amendment on gay marriage, the only hate he's tried to spread is against genuinely bad people. Jerry Falwell did far more to spread hate and intolerance than he ever did in the name of good.

So if I was to compare Jerry Falwell to George W Bush (the man I consider the worst US President ... maybe second worst), I think Jerry Falwell makes Bush look like damn near a saint. He was a horrible being that tried to use religion to justify his hatred of people different than him. It was disgusting and dispicable and the world will be better now that he's gone. In that respect, he's very much like Saddam.
 

ProfJohn

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Thraashman, Saddam started a war with Iran and Kuwait and his WMD programs led to 10 years of sanctions. Add all those people to your ?total? and get back to me.

Another thing? the Iran-Iraq war resulted in around 1 million dead, how do you compare ?bigots? to people who are dead?

You're just sad. (oops :) )
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Thraashman, Saddam started a war with Iran and Kuwait and his WMD programs led to 10 years of sanctions. Add all those people to your ?total? and get back to me.

Another thing? the Iran-Iraq war resulted in around 1 million dead, how do you compare ?bigots? to people who are dead?

Your just sad.

Ok, well if we're gonna blame the Iran-Iraq war on Saddam, how many dead in Iraq can I blame completely on Bush? And how many dead in the Iran-Iraq war can I blame on US presidents who funded both sides? And again, read before you argue. I said adversely affected, I even clarified in a later post about levels of adversely affected.

And seriously, the bolded, while it has nothing to do with my argument, you should know better than to make a simple grammar mistake like that.
 
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yea he's dead. so what. his 'teachings' will resonate with the simpleminded for decades. I'll miss him like I'd miss cancer
 
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Originally posted by: tealk
You are home Jerry, Bless you.

Lord, they know not wheat they speak. Forgive them. Amen

If his home is heaven, I sure as hell don't want to see him at the luau. I think there's a cozy little corner in hell, at the end of a cul-de-sac called hypocrite heights. Nothing to forgive, the "Lord" recognizes a blowhard pretty easily, and falwell was one of the biggest. Enjoy your hand of crazy 8's with dahmer.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Originally posted by: tomywishbone
Wednesday morning May 16th... is he still dead?

Yep, but it's only been one day. Gotta give him two more!

I will sh1t a brick if that creep wakes up from the dead... "MUUST.. CRUSH.. EQUAL RIGHTS.. RWAAARRRRRGGGG!!!!!"
 

CallMeJoe

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I heard part of the interview Christiane Amanpour did with Falwell about a week before his death, in which Falwell told the story of Hezekiah, who in the Bible asked to live for 15 more years. Falwell said he prayed to God for twenty more years on earth, so that he could finish his calling. I guess he got his answer Tuesday morning.