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Jeremy Clarkson Hates America
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DivideBYZero
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DivideBYZero
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Tell me which part isn't true...
I personally like being reminded where we're not #1...we make some of the worst cars in the world. If only more Americans would keep an open mind, observe, learn, and improve, we'd all be better off.
Now in Part IV, he races a Land Rover against a Hummer H2 and Escalade. I would have liked to have seen a Jeep in the mix.
DivideBYZero
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It's for entertainment purposes. Some people don't help, however, like the lady in the gas station.
He just called the Exige a, "Melted toaster from Norfolk". :laugh:
Get a sense of humour and allow yourself to enjoy it.
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I think when Clarkson refers to Americans and their "Disposable Society" in Part V is spot on. And it's not just about cars. How many of the houses built in America during the past decade/Housing Boom were designed to last maybe 5, 10 years? How many started falling apart on delivery? How many blow away during the first major storm? I just feel so bad for the suckers who paid $200- or $300,000 for something probably worth $25,000 in materials (if not less).
I think the word "quality" and the phrase "designed to last" escape most Americans, thinking they can design/engineer/sell/buy a new thing every couple of years.
Well, as we all know, that culture of excess is now over. We are dawning on the age conservation and renewables. The "Disposable Society" must come to and end and American producers and consumers will have to change their tune.
I think the word "quality" and the phrase "designed to last" escape most Americans, thinking they can design/engineer/sell/buy a new thing every couple of years.
Well, as we all know, that culture of excess is now over. We are dawning on the age conservation and renewables. The "Disposable Society" must come to and end and American producers and consumers will have to change their tune.
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The XJ? No.
The Range Rover? Still designed in the UK, AFAIK, along with all the underlying tech. If anything, the RR has more BMW in it than Ford.
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
The XJ? No.
The Range Rover? Still designed in the UK, AFAIK, along with all the underlying tech. If anything, the RR has more BMW in it than Ford.
The current RR was designed under BMW's watch, you're right. But all the latest Jags/Aston Martins came out under Ford's watch. Now it's possible Ford only supplied the money and no design/engineering. Dunno.
Part VII: The race between the BMW Z4 and Dodge Viper SRT10! LOL!
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
The XJ? No.
The Range Rover? Still designed in the UK, AFAIK, along with all the underlying tech. If anything, the RR has more BMW in it than Ford.
The current RR was designed under BMW's watch, you're right. But all the latest Jags/Aston Martins came out under Ford's watch. Now it's possible Ford only supplied the money and no design/engineering. Dunno.
Part VII: The race between the BMW Z4 and Dodge Viper SRT10! LOL!
The XJ they fill is from 1989! Pretty much the WORST time to buy a Jag!
teh later videos are coming up as 'no longer available' now.
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
The XJ? No.
The Range Rover? Still designed in the UK, AFAIK, along with all the underlying tech. If anything, the RR has more BMW in it than Ford.
The current RR was designed under BMW's watch, you're right. But all the latest Jags/Aston Martins came out under Ford's watch. Now it's possible Ford only supplied the money and no design/engineering. Dunno.
Part VII: The race between the BMW Z4 and Dodge Viper SRT10! LOL!
The XJ they fill is from 1989! Pretty much the WORST time to buy a Jag!
teh later videos are coming up as 'no longer available' now.
Yeah, I had to go directly to youtube to get the rest.
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Boy you're not joking. About 8 years ago, my first wife and I were house-hunting at a newly constructed (and still under expansion) suburb of $250k+ homes. We took a tour of a model, and were amazed at all the little messed up details and cheap work. Flash forward to today, and many of the homes have problems, and that costs a lot of money to keep up.
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Just to add, the reliability wasn't drivetrain related like many would think. It was the rest of the car that gave him trouble. IIRC car reporting it was stolen when it was sitting in his driveway, some issues with the door opening, etc.
Also, why would you buy a car like that and expect good mpg?
EDIT: already noted
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i definitely see it in the houses. used to be (and not all that long ago, actually) that the money was spent on a quality structure. now it's all spent on granite countertops and black or stainless appliances. never mind that the floor creaks every time you move or that the windows are installed crooked so they're almost impossible to close.
though cars have definitely improved. it's ridiculous that he compares the mass market fords with the cost-is-no-concern germans. just about every european car other than BMW and merc are so bad they can't sell here.
Ford is a global company with plenty of design studios outside the US designing cars that never even see US soil. Here's a few just off the top of my head, and these ones are all branded as Fords: Falcon/Ka/Transit/Euro Focus/Mondeo/Fiesta/S-Max/C-Max/Galaxy/Euro Fusion.
Quote your source that the American design studios are responsible for designing the bulk of the latest Jags and Land Rovers.
I love Clarkson, but of course I take everything he says with a grain of salt. He is someone who delights in the sensational, and I don't actually think he even believes everything he says. You can catch him in the old BBC "Motor World" series spending time in America and heaping praise on its car culture and such amazing examples of American design as the Lincoln Mark VIII and the POS Chrysler cab-forward monstrosities. You know he's not always totally honest when he has ANYTHING nice to say about a Chrysler LHS.
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I forgot to mention.
I :heart: The Stig
Man, can that guy drive. He trashed both of those American "muscle" cars.
Wow, there's a lesson there. Muscle doesn't win you everything, does it? Being lean and agile is just as important. Do I see another message here about America's geopolitical role?
I :heart: The Stig
Man, can that guy drive. He trashed both of those American "muscle" cars.
Wow, there's a lesson there. Muscle doesn't win you everything, does it? Being lean and agile is just as important. Do I see another message here about America's geopolitical role?
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