Jeff Gordon's revenge.

lavaheadache

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After diving through some of those links and what not... I can't believe how many people think that Camaro is Camero. I even work with a guy that says it like Camero.

Seriously? How simple of a word is Camaro?
 

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What a strange coincidence, I was just watching this guy talk about the e30 m3 yesterday and he's in this video today.
 

LTC8K6

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Evidence of practice along the route is not really evidence of fakery.

The antennas are just stuck on with magnets and could have simply fallen off.

But yeah, TV is rehearsed and edited and "fake"...

Why this is often reported as if it's a shock is beyond me.
 

Tweak155

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Evidence of practice along the route is not really evidence of fakery.

The antennas are just stuck on with magnets and could have simply fallen off.

But yeah, TV is rehearsed and edited and "fake"...

Why this is often reported as if it's a shock is beyond me.

Then they wouldn't be on the vehicle in the frame after they pulled in...

Either way I don't think it's fake, they just shot themselves in the foot by leaving errors like this in the video for people to get hyped up about. Makes me want a Pepsi so that's all that matters.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Evidence of practice along the route is not really evidence of fakery.

No, but an understanding of the law is plenty of evidence of fakery. That was just as fake as the first one. If the guy in the back seat is not in on the joke it's kidnapping and everyone involved winds up in jail for a nice long time.
 

foghorn67

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No, but an understanding of the law is plenty of evidence of fakery. That was just as fake as the first one. If the guy in the back seat is not in on the joke it's kidnapping and everyone involved winds up in jail for a nice long time.

You have such a hard on for being negative. I couldn't imagine carrying around that negativity around all day.
 

LTC8K6

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Then they wouldn't be on the vehicle in the frame after they pulled in...

Sure they would. They would put them back on for the final shot.

They wouldn't have considered it a serious enough flaw to go back and shoot the scene again. It would cost time and money and is totally unnecessary.

They also couldn't have had big professional cameras visible along the route, or it gives the stunt away.

So they would have had to shoot some scenes separately, or be unable to show them at all. Some of the scenes where the car passes by a camera, for example.
 

GagHalfrunt

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You have such a hard on for being negative. I couldn't imagine carrying around that negativity around all day.

And I couldn't imagine going through life stupid and gullible. The ad is fake, that's neither positive nor negative, it's just what it is. Deal with it. What's your connection to this ad? What on earth would you react so childishly to finding out the truth?
 
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LTC8K6

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No, but an understanding of the law is plenty of evidence of fakery. That was just as fake as the first one. If the guy in the back seat is not in on the joke it's kidnapping and everyone involved winds up in jail for a nice long time.

Looks like there were police in on the joke as well.

What jury would vote to convict them of kidnapping?

I guess Allen Funt would have been jailed for life.
 

LTC8K6

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And I couldn't imagine going through life stupid and gullible. The ad is fake, that's neither positive nor negative, it's just what it is. Deal with it. What's your connection to this ad? What on earth would you react so childishly to finding out the truth?

Wouldn't that be at least part of the point of doing the ad? To get that guy in a "fake" video himself?
 

GagHalfrunt

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Looks like there were police in on the joke as well.

What jury would vote to convict them of kidnapping?

I guess Allen Funt would have been jailed for life.

When did Allen Funt ever kidnap somebody? Show me a single instance where Candid Camera retrained a person and subjected them to a dangerous stunt against their will. If unable to do so you're arguing against yourself.

Of course the police were in on it. They were hired to play their role just like the guy in the back seat was hired to play his.

Wouldn't that be at least part of the point of doing the ad? To get that guy in a "fake" video himself?

No, the point is to get the guy in the ad to pretend that the joke is on him this time so that easily fooled morons think it's real and it goes viral. Pepsi and Jeff Gordon have good lawyers, they would never have allowed their clients to stage a kidnapping and they would never allow their clients to stage a stunt where innocent people could be hurt. Period. It's that simple. That's where this stunt fails. They *could* have gotten the guy back legitimately and made the joke on him in a way that would not land them all in jail and would not make the victim millions of dollars richer. By going so far over the line they just prove that it's fake as they could not have done it without the victims full consent.
 

Mermaidman

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No, but an understanding of the law is plenty of evidence of fakery. That was just as fake as the first one. If the guy in the back seat is not in on the joke it's kidnapping and everyone involved winds up in jail for a nice long time.

I watched a lot of Law & Order, so I know that there is no crime if the "victim" doesn't press charges. :p
 

Tweak155

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Sure they would. They would put them back on for the final shot.

They wouldn't have considered it a serious enough flaw to go back and shoot the scene again. It would cost time and money and is totally unnecessary.

They also couldn't have had big professional cameras visible along the route, or it gives the stunt away.

So they would have had to shoot some scenes separately, or be unable to show them at all. Some of the scenes where the car passes by a camera, for example.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense... Why add them back if they were gone for the entire chase sequence? To intentionally cause a problem of having to go back and re-shoot scenes to make it look right?

So they were smart enough to realize they'd waste time and money and that it is totally unnecessary to go back and make sure there are antennas on the chase scene, but too dumb to realize the problem could be avoided by just not adding the antennas back and saying they fell off when the chase started. Right.
 

GagHalfrunt

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I watched a lot of Law & Order, so I know that there is no crime if the "victim" doesn't press charges. :p

Correct.


And how stupid would Pepsi and Jeff Gordon have to be to put themselves in a situation where they'd go to jail if the victim DID press charges? He'd certainly have the right to lock them all up and at the very least he'd demand 10's of millions of dollars to not press charges. Does anyone honestly believe they would go that route and just hope to not be arrested rather than simply saying "here's $100 and some free advertising for your site if you play along"?
 

foghorn67

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And I couldn't imagine going through life stupid and gullible. The ad is fake, that's neither positive nor negative, it's just what it is. Deal with it. What's your connection to this ad? What on earth would you react so childishly to finding out the truth?

I'm not the one butthurt over a prank on someone else. And that someone else thinks it's awesome. There is no "victim" here.
 

LTC8K6

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense... Why add them back if they were gone for the entire chase sequence? To intentionally cause a problem of having to go back and re-shoot scenes to make it look right?

So they were smart enough to realize they'd waste time and money and that it is totally unnecessary to go back and make sure there are antennas on the chase scene, but too dumb to realize the problem could be avoided by just not adding the antennas back and saying they fell off when the chase started. Right.

The scenes are almost certainly shot out of sequence. The only actual filmed scene showing the outside of the car with Jeff and the victim in it might be the ending one where they pull into the garage.

The beginning and end might be shot on the same day, for example.
 

LTC8K6

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When did Allen Funt ever kidnap somebody? Show me a single instance where Candid Camera retrained a person and subjected them to a dangerous stunt against their will. If unable to do so you're arguing against yourself.

Doesn't need to be a kidnapping to illustrate the point. It could be any on camera prank/joke that could possibly be prosecuted.

Like shoplifting, or stealing a car, or stealing a bicycle.

A prank might be that your car is missing when you come out to go to work in the morning. The TV crew has taken your car without your permission as part of the prank they are doing on you.
 

railer

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Correct.


And how stupid would Pepsi and Jeff Gordon have to be to put themselves in a situation where they'd go to jail if the victim DID press charges? He'd certainly have the right to lock them all up and at the very least he'd demand 10's of millions of dollars to not press charges. Does anyone honestly believe they would go that route and just hope to not be arrested rather than simply saying "here's $100 and some free advertising for your site if you play along"?

Did you have veins popping out of your forehead as you typed this?
You're posting on an internet forum about a Pepsi commercial.
Get some perspective and calm the fuck down.
ROFL.
 

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GagHalfrunt

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Did you have veins popping out of your forehead as you typed this?
You're posting on an internet forum about a Pepsi commercial.
Get some perspective and calm the fuck down.
ROFL.

I'd serve you a big heaping plate of irony, but you wouldn't be able to understand it. ROFL indeed!!
 

GagHalfrunt

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I'm not the one butthurt over a prank on someone else. And that someone else thinks it's awesome. There is no "victim" here.

Try to get this through your head, the commercial was not a prank. It was scripted so it's impossible for anyone to be butthurt by it. The prank is on the people who believe the video is real. Just about anyone could look at that video and understand quickly that everyone is acting. I'm just one of millions of people that were able to identify it as fake. Are you angry with all of us or just angry at me for pointing it out?
 

LTC8K6

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If it's not identified as a repost within the first 5 responses, it's good to go.