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Originally posted by: BOBDN
We will never eradicate drug use. Keeping it in the black market like a festering infection won't cure it. Bring it out in the open and deal with it.
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: gistech1978
but once you take that first drink or hit
your free will goes by the wayside?
you cannot determine how your life will turn out?
No your free will does not go by the wayside. Thier are very few substances that will instatly addict you. You have to work at it. Those are the people I have a problem with, and I admit I have no sympathy or regard for them. IMHO we would be better off if we could eliminate them from society.
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: BOBDN
We will never eradicate drug use. Keeping it in the black market like a festering infection won't cure it. Bring it out in the open and deal with it.
..smartest thing I have ever heard you say. Philly, is that you?
Originally posted by: BOBDN
The "war" on drugs is a joke.
If we want to end drug use we're in for a surprise. People have been using drugs for millenia.
Legalize all of it. Everything.
Then regulate it just like alcohol or any other intoxicating substance. Then provide treatment instead of incarceration. People are functional during treatment and can work to provide for themselves either wholly or partially until they are cured of addiction.
Drugs like pot should just be legal. That's a no brainer.
Put the criminals out of business, release all those people who were convicted on drug posession charges only. Review the rest of the drug related cases.
We will never eradicate drug use. Keeping it in the black market like a festering infection won't cure it. Bring it out in the open and deal with it.
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Can't you read, Moonie? That's 'not what he was saying'....dummy.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Hows that "war on drugs" workin?
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: BOBDN
The "war" on drugs is a joke.
If we want to end drug use we're in for a surprise. People have been using drugs for millenia.
Legalize all of it. Everything.
Then regulate it just like alcohol or any other intoxicating substance. Then provide treatment instead of incarceration. People are functional during treatment and can work to provide for themselves either wholly or partially until they are cured of addiction.
Drugs like pot should just be legal. That's a no brainer.
Put the criminals out of business, release all those people who were convicted on drug posession charges only. Review the rest of the drug related cases.
We will never eradicate drug use. Keeping it in the black market like a festering infection won't cure it. Bring it out in the open and deal with it.
This clearly is a sign of the end times. In general I agree with BOBDN. Perhaps we should talk about it more, and then we can disagree Probably on the "provide treatment" part.
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I'm saying some people no matter how many opportunties you give them are just screw ups.
You can't read so well can you.
Nice attack to substantiate your spin. Why not just 'kids with so many opportunities'? Why not "a man was shot by the police last night"...why "A black man was shot by a white cop last night in a white neighborhood with 99.9% of the residents being white and average per capita income placing them in the wealthiest 1%..."
Whatever you say, buddy...puff, puff, give.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The notion that it's the parents is also a part of the problem. Mayn families have children who are drug free and drug addicted. It's also a matter of luck.
Originally posted by: gistech1978
there are societial factors, yes
homeschooling? im not sure if i agree with that.
so by homeschooling you shelter your child from everything, making them completely socially inept when they turn 18 and head to college.
Originally posted by: gistech1978
there are societial factors, yes
homeschooling? im not sure if i agree with that.
so by homeschooling you shelter your child from everything, making them completely socially inept when they turn 18 and head to college EDIT: or when they enter the real world and get some McJob.
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I'm saying some people no matter how many opportunties you give them are just screw ups.
You can't read so well can you.
Nice attack to substantiate your spin. Why not just 'kids with so many opportunities'? Why not "a man was shot by the police last night"...why "A black man was shot by a white cop last night in a white neighborhood with 99.9% of the residents being white and average per capita income placing them in the wealthiest 1%..."
Whatever you say, buddy...puff, puff, give.
Maybe I am stupid...but what exactly are you trying to say. I don't understand.
Originally posted by: gistech1978
sure its all well and good if the parent wants to learn along with the child
my problem with homeschooling is this....there are no standards!
you could "teach" your kid that the earth is only 4000 years old.
this issue should probably be its own thread.
i know D.A.R.E doesnt work, nothing has worked.
im not saying youre wrong LR- im just think that a large percentage of homeschooled children would present a whole other host of societal problems.
how is a single inner city DC mom going to homeschool her kids?
sure suburban SLC soccer mom can do it. they can afford to buy the books, take the kids on a field trip, invest upwards of 6 hrs a day educating your child.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: gistech1978
sure its all well and good if the parent wants to learn along with the child
my problem with homeschooling is this....there are no standards!
you could "teach" your kid that the earth is only 4000 years old.
this issue should probably be its own thread.
i know D.A.R.E doesnt work, nothing has worked.
im not saying youre wrong LR- im just think that a large percentage of homeschooled children would present a whole other host of societal problems.
how is a single inner city DC mom going to homeschool her kids?
sure suburban SLC soccer mom can do it. they can afford to buy the books, take the kids on a field trip, invest upwards of 6 hrs a day educating your child.
You seem to be uninformed as to what standards home-schooling parents have to follow. It isn't a free-for-all.
There are MANY places parents can get the teaching materials needed to homes-school. Is investing 6hrs in your child's learning and growth too much to ask of a child's PARENT(S)?
CkG
Originally posted by: gistech1978
well, i was not aware of stringent standards being applied to homeschooled children.
sure, if there are PARENTS involved. and hubby or mommy makes enough money so the other parent doesnt have to work.
if there is PARENT....then what? is our govt. going to subsidize this woman(or man) not working, staying @ home teaching her children and keeping them free of drugs and crime.....potentially?
And that's just on Pennsylvania AveJeebus: 10% of Washington DC Residents are Addicts
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's just on Pennsylvania AveJeebus: 10% of Washington DC Residents are Addicts
Nah he's been Clean and Sober for awhile!Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's just on Pennsylvania AveJeebus: 10% of Washington DC Residents are Addicts
Is Bush included in those statistics?