Jeb in 2012 ?

Bwatkins

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Anyone think that Florida Governor Jeb Bush will make a run at the white house in 2012 if McCain doesn't get elected ? Jeb currently has a high approval rating in the state of Florida and has done well to help unite the Dems and Repubs in his state's government. Even though the current approval rating of George W. Bush is fairly low, the family has quite a bit of political experience and in my opinon he would make a good GOP nominee in 2012 if McCain doesn't make it this year. Thoughts and comments are certainly welcome.
 

Farang

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Bush name is permanently tainted, almost like being a Nixon and running for office. Also since when do they keep taking approval ratings of former Governors?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Farang
Bush name is permanently tainted, almost like being a Nixon

:thumbsup:

that may have been pappy's plan, but the wrong Bush ran in 2000.
 

Bwatkins

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Sorry, I meant previous approval rating. Jeb Bush also helped pass Terry's Law to help Terry Schaivo which I am sure was a big plus with Dems in Florida.
 

Robor

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Last I checked Charlie Christ was governor of Florida so how does Jeb Bush have an approval rating to speak of?

Edit: Why was Terry's Law a big plus with (D)'s in FL? :confused:
 

rockyct

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I think there's pretty much zero chance of him winning the nomination in 2012 and it's way too soon to even start thinking about that. Wait until Nov. 5 at least. :)
 

racolvin

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Originally posted by: Farang
Bush name is permanently tainted, almost like being a Nixon and running for office...

I would have to agree with this sentiment. Jeb may be a good guy but his older brother ruined it for him if he ever wanted to run for national office
 

bamacre

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If Jeb gets the nomination in 2012, then we will have gone nowhere as a nation.
 

Lemon law

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Oh God. I sure hope not. But sadly, never say never, because even Richard Nixon pronounced himself politically dead when he lost to Pat Brown in 1962. Stomping off the stage with a promise that the press would not have him to kick around any more. And six years later, he was the President elect.

With Jeb Bush it may depend on three things. (1) If we learn a lot about the monkey business W was up to only after he leaves office, a lot may rebound back on Jeb, especially if Jeb was up to his eyeballs in some secret deals. (2) Right now Jeb is without office and needs something to keep him in the public eye, making positive news. (3) Jeb looks more attractive if there are no other big idea Republicans.
 

ProfJohn

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While it will never happen thanks to his brother.

Let's remember that Jeb is everything his brother is not. A good speaker who exudes confidence and command when he talks.
Anyone who lives in Fl can tell you that.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
While it will never happen thanks to his brother.

Let's remember that Jeb is everything his brother is not. A good speaker who exudes confidence and command when he talks.
Anyone who lives in Fl can tell you that.

I thought he was a fat twat who's every bit as brain-dead as Terri Schiavo?
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
While it will never happen thanks to his brother.

Let's remember that Jeb is everything his brother is not. A good speaker who exudes confidence and command when he talks.
Anyone who lives in Fl can tell you that.
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Wow or Wow, a man who can actually talk without stuttering and mispronouncing every other word. In other words, its gets Jeb up to the 50'th percentile, but on the bright side, way way ahead of only stupid brother W.

Bottom line, Jeb is still a save a braindead Shiavo kook, and that alone will ever taint him. And an unwillingness to anything but rubber stamp the morally bankrupt policies of his brother, does not make for a family loyalty justifies look the other way.
 

ericlp

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
While it will never happen thanks to his brother.

Let's remember that Jeb is everything his brother is not. A good speaker who exudes confidence and command when he talks.
Anyone who lives in Fl can tell you that.

Haha, I hope they do let him run so you can vote for him and he can lose badly...

Thanks,

But...No Thanks.

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Bwatkins
Sorry, I meant previous approval rating. Jeb Bush also helped pass Terry's Law to help Terry Schaivo which I am sure was a big plus with Dems in Florida.

Wait.... what?
 

ayabe

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He can speak spanish and would frequently do press conferences in english first then spanish, I would say in 2012 given current demographic tendenceis, that means he's got it locked up.
 

DangerAardvark

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I think he will get elected if he runs. There will be a whole Sanjaya situation where people will vote for him just to see what crazy antics he gets up to.
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: ayabe
He can speak spanish and would frequently do press conferences in english first then spanish, I would say in 2012 given current demographic tendenceis, that means he's got it locked up.
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And that will happen when the Black vote goes to Alan Keyes, Clarance Thomas, and Kindasleeze Rice.

There is a lot more than speaka da lingo to talking the talk and walking the talk, and there its epic fail, and a Jeb dollar short. Fuck you Hispanics policy sounds the same in any language and the Jeb Bush family already has its token Hispanics.

In future, Fidel Castro will die and third generation Cuban Americans no longer care to go back to Cuba, and in the fullness of time, the Cuban American community may start to go democratic. And if McCain does not win the general election in 08, the Hispanic community will lose its last GOP advocate.
 

deftron

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Absolutely

See, America is masochistic and the Bush's have been our dominatrix fix for decades.

G.H. twisted our nipples but wasn't rough enough .. we only gave him 4 years and gave up on him.

Then we started missing the pain.

G.W. truly gave it to us. He puched us in the kidneys and slapped us in the face while we called him daddy. Pretty much everything we could ask for but we do need some recuperation time before we pass out.

So, we'll get some pansy who will tuck us in at night and read us bed time stories.

But it's just a matter of time till we get that craving again.

And the Bush's have always fullfilled that urge.


 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: ayabe
He can speak spanish and would frequently do press conferences in english first then spanish, I would say in 2012 given current demographic tendenceis, that means he's got it locked up.
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And that will happen when the Black vote goes to Alan Keyes, Clarance Thomas, and Kindasleeze Rice.

There is a lot more than speaka da lingo to talking the talk and walking the talk, and there its epic fail, and a Jeb dollar short. Fuck you Hispanics policy sounds the same in any language and the Jeb Bush family already has its token Hispanics.

In future, Fidel Castro will die and third generation Cuban Americans no longer care to go back to Cuba, and in the fullness of time, the Cuban American community may start to go democratic. And if McCain does not win the general election in 08, the Hispanic community will lose its last GOP advocate.

Cubans/Puerto Ricans(Miami/Orlando respectively) love Jeb, I don't know what you are talking about. He was enormously popular when in office and I think that pandering to the hispanics certainly didn't hurt him.

You seem convinced that people vote in their own self interest, that has been proven wrong time and time again.

I think now is a great opportunity for the Catholic church to make a move towards the left, since the baptists/evangelicals seem to have moved more to the right and hate Catholics with a passion. If this were to happen, I could see more hispanics voting Democratic.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
While it will never happen thanks to his brother.

Let's remember that Jeb is everything his brother is not. A good speaker who exudes confidence and command when he talks.
Anyone who lives in Fl can tell you that.

Great, we have a good speaker. Now where's the fiscal conservative and socially liberal "small government" leader we actually need?

Bush lost all of my respect when he didn't manage FL's budget all that well and he butted his moronic head into the Schiavo case. That, right there, proves that he's nothing more than a less liberal, liberal.