Jeb Bush's Great Idea - More Military Spending

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"My brother used the US military to destabilize the Middle East. Now we need a higher military budget so that I can clean up my brother's mess."
 

schmuckley

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Imagine Jeb Bush having a great idea such as that!
Bazinga
Vote for Jeb in 2016!
Bazinga

As for sportage, who quoted the long link below me,Why did you bother?
 
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Sonikku

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I have already said many times, the 2016 election will be a choice and only one choice between war and no war.
War, from all the Bush clan that still believe involvement in the middle east can actually lead to success.
And the choice from the other side, believing enough is enough.

Republicans have the nerve to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS, or our troop withdrawal as the reason for instability.
Republicans are still as loony as ever. And that is the scary as hell part.

Getting involved in the meddle east had no black or white. No win or lose.
Involvement in the middle east was like 50 shades of evil.
50 consequences. 50 probable outcomes. 50 eternal regrets.
And not one of the 50 possibilities a simple black or white outcome.

The Bush's started all this, bottom line, end of the story.
Everything that has happened has been a direct outcome and consequence from their idiotic way of looking at the middle east.
Treating that region and the people how they live and worship as if that could in any way be compared to our way of life and belief.

Its like speaking English to a Chinese, and the Chinese speaking their language in return, and walking away believing the two understood the each other.
Bush, all of them, believed and more so still believe that America could Americanize the middle east and Americanize a region, as well as their religion.
A religion older than ourselves.
And what we got was 50 shades of evil, 50 shades of hatred, with ISIS only the 5th of a full 45 shades of insanity.

Sure, go ahead America and elect another Bush, along with the very same Bush thugs that served under both Bush # 1 and Bush # 2.
Thugs the republican party are once again toting as the best of the best.

Jeb says he is not like his father or brother.
Jeb is in fact exactly like his father and his brother.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And fool me continually over and over, I'm just an fucking idiot.

Eisenhower didn't quite did the results he wanted with Iran (though that didn't blow up until Carter so it's partly ok), nor did Reagan with Afghanistan or Bush Sr and Jr with Iraq, but I have a good feeling about Jeb. He'll turn that Middle East around you'll see. And he'll create jobs doing it. Unlike the Liberals that just want to throw money at the problem, expand government, make more government jobs and grow the deficit.
 

Hugo Drax

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We should cut Defense spending to 350 billion a year and use the rest of the money saved to pay off the deficit.

Let the rest of the world budget for defense, of course this probably means no more free college,healthcare,baby sitting, etc.. in those european countries.
 

Subyman

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Another round of military spending for me and my friends!
 

Spungo

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how much more do you need to spend?

the enemy isn't a country anymore it's an idea.

We need to win the war against fiscal solvency. We need to fight wars on at least 3 fronts, we need bread riots, we need something similar to 1917 Germany or 1917 Russia.
People forget Germany was on the brink of collapse, which is exactly what we want to see in America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbl16t4WlJ4
Fun fact: Lenin was sent to Russia by the Germans and he did exactly as planned. He rose to power and surrendered to Germany.
 
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dank69

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I don't think he will press on the abortion issue after the primaries. He will definitely go with all the rest though.


How does this party get any votes at all?? It is the same dumb platform of ignorance and fear that the GOP runs every single election. And somehow, they win!
You have to understand that liberals are evil people that won't be happy until we are all dining on human fetuses. Once you get that through your thick skull you understand why it is so important to vote GOP no matter what because at least they aren't THAT bad.
 

sm625

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Since when do they need ideas to get elected? Millions of sheep will vote for him regardless of what he runs on.
 

Jhhnn

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Since when do they need ideas to get elected? Millions of sheep will vote for him regardless of what he runs on.

As a Republican, the nominee will just be a poster boy for the Team, The big money Team, of course.
 

Black Octagon

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He will win because most American voters don't trust politicians with more syllables in their name than absolutely necessary.

Extra syllables are confusing, strain the mind and reek of fancy marketing.

Jeb Bush. A name you can remember.
 

ivwshane

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***edit. That's what I get for not reading the whole thread:( already posted...


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/18/jeb-bush-neoconservative/


Paul Wolfowitz of the wildly successful Iraq adventure fame.

Not only is Jeb not his own man he doesn't even have his own team! Besides the two you mentioned, look at just how many former bush people he's using for his foreign policy staff:

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...cy-team-is-eerily-familiar-in-1-venn-diagram/

I'd like to know what idiots think we should go back to implementing the ideas and policies these other idiots think of.
 
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Newell Steamer

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Is this the guy you want to lead on where our military should be? And doing?

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/18/8064723/jeb-bush-awkward

  1. He mixed up Iran and Iraq, blasting the Obama administration's "approach to Iraq...excuse me, Iran."
  2. He accidentally multiplied ISIS's military strength by 10 times, saying that the group had 200,000 fighters when CIA estimates say they've got between 20,000 and 31,500. (A spokesperson later emailed reporters to say he misspoke.)
  3. He called Ukraine "the Ukraine," which Ukrainians object to because it implies that they're a territory and not a rightfully independent country.
  4. He called ISIS caliph Abu Bakr al Baghdadi "the guy that's the supreme leader or whatever his new title is — head of the caliphate."
  5. He mispronounced Nigerian militant group Boko Haram, sounding more like "bow-coo haram."
  6. He weirdly talked about how he "forced myself to go visit Asia four times a year" as if it were a hardship.

#2 is just perfect though - speaks to how much of a fear mongering dolt he is. ISIS,... under a quarter of a million fighters,.. holy shit.
 

piasabird

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Maybe we should be like Russia and just hire some terrorists. They we can say we aren't invading that country, it is just some Christian militia volunteers.
 

ivwshane

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Is this the guy you want to lead on where our military should be? And doing?

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/18/8064723/jeb-bush-awkward



#2 is just perfect though - speaks to how much of a fear mongering dolt he is. ISIS,... under a quarter of a million fighters,.. holy shit.


Meh, that's all pretty petty in my mind. You don't have to look at what a potential presidential candidate says to understand his position, just look at who he surrounds himself with.

He's bad news for other more legitimate reasons than for bad script reading.
 

Spungo

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Jeb lost my vote when he called Ukraine "the Ukraine"...unbelievable!!!
That pisses me off every time. What kind of asshole says things like The Germany or The France.

I was in The Hawaii last year for my The Vacation. I couldn't use the ATM machine because I forgot my PIN number.
 
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That pisses me off every time. What kind of asshole says things like The Germany or The France.

I was in The Hawaii last year for my The Vacation. I couldn't use the ATM machine because I forgot my PIN number.
You should have vacationed in The Caribbean instead...I understand that they're much more laid back and aren't so easily outraged by such nonsense. But I will concede one point...that The United States has more than its fair share of assholes.
 
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Black Octagon

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Ukraine used to be called "the Ukraine" by some in the west. Until approximately the dissolution of the Soviet Union, that is.

Slip of the tongue? Or did the Bush boys never really manage to accept the end of the Cold War?
 
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Ukraine used to be called "the Ukraine" by some in the west. Until approximately the dissolution of the Soviet Union, that is.

Slip of the tongue? Or did the Bush boys never really manage to accept the end of the Cold War?
I'm sure it was intentional. Those fucking Bush's loved the Cold War and still want to relive those glory days. These "slips of the tongue" are no accident...everybody knows this. But we're on the them fuckers, aren't we?