Jeb Bush's Great Idea - More Military Spending

[HomerJS]

Should we assume you are currently lying to further your agenda?

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana

So you have no problem with Wolfowitz being on Jeb Bush's foreign policy team?

 

[rudeguy]

So you have no problem with Wolfowitz being on Jeb Bush's foreign policy team?

I'm saying that bshole has repeatedly stated he welcomes lying to further an agenda.

And I do not care about Wolfowitz. If its such a bad choice, the voters will let them know.

FFS...find something real to get worked up over.

 

[cbrunny]

At a certain point, spending in the military becomes socialist, particularly when it is such a major driving factor in the economy.

 

[dank69]

I'm saying that bshole has repeatedly stated he welcomes lying to further an agenda.

And I do not care about Wolfowitz. If its such a bad choice, the voters will let them know.

FFS...find something real to get worked up over.

Yeah the average American voter is super informed.

 

[rudeguy]

Yeah the average American voter is super informed.

There we go!

According to democrats Americans are ignorant, uninformed morons who need the government and media to tell them how to think and act.

 

[dank69]

There we go!

According to democrats Americans are ignorant, uninformed morons who need the government and media to tell them how to think and act.

There is a difference between acknowledging that the average voter is not well informed and thinking that the government and media are needed to tell them how to think and act.

Do you think the average American voter is well informed?

 

[cbrunny]

Give or take, 120 million Americans voted in the last election.

The average American doesn't vote.

 

[rudeguy]

There is a difference between acknowledging that the average voter is not well informed and thinking that the government and media are needed to tell them how to think and act.

Do you think the average American voter is well informed?

I have not tested the average American voter's level of being informed to make that assumption.

Quit thinking you are better than everyone. Jerk.


I still love you and want to have your child though :awe:

 

[dank69]

I have not tested the average American voter's level of being informed to make that assumption.

Quit thinking you are better than everyone. Jerk.

I still love you and want to have your child though :awe:

:wub:

 

[rudeguy]

lol

Of course the "average" voter is uninformed. Hell I bet half the people who vote are only voting against the other guy. The sad part is a lot of the informed voters stay home because they are sick of politicians.

 

[unokitty]

Wow, what a creative idea. Suit up for more war...

Obama administration to allow sales of armed drones to allies

...new policy was announced yesterday... The Washington Post suggests that "allied nations from Italy to Turkey to the Persian Gulf region clamor for the aircraft." In the past, the U.S. has only sold its drones to the UK.

It's a difficult balancing act. On one hand, drones are expensive to design, test and then run—as the Air Force has found out. The Pentagon recently scolded the organization for wasting $9 billion of tax-payer cash on Reaper drones. Exporting home-grown military technology is a lucrative business, and will go at least some way to recouping the heft military spending on unmanned vehicles.

Let the public pay 9 billion dollars to develop Reaper Drones. Let General Atomic, a privately held firm, make millions of dollars profit by selling armed drones on the international market.

Why, oh why, can't the Republicans see the wisdom of the Obama administration? Public pays developmental costs, private companies make profit. Politicians get campaign contributions.

What's not to like?

Uno

 

[berzerker60]

Jesus Christ

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...cy-team-is-eerily-familiar-in-1-venn-diagram/

Paul Wolfowitz. uggggggh

 

[Fern]

The numbers alone paint an entirely different picture - that isn't he budget of someone on the defense,.. that is the budget of someone on the offense. And, that is what we've been doing for the past near 1/2 decade; invading other countries.

Call it spreading freedom. Call it stabilizing. Call it whatever you want. But, these aren't defensive moves/spend - they are clearly offensive.

Offensive and defensive moves are often blurred for all but the most simplistic among us.

You sound like one of those advocating our military only defend our borders. I.e., we only fight here and only after attacked. I hope not because that's a horrible idea. Only a fool readily accepts or advocates a fight on his own territory. It is a thing to be strenuously avoided.

Fern

 

[Nebor]

lol

Of course the "average" voter is uninformed. Hell I bet half the people who vote are only voting against the other guy. The sad part is a lot of the informed voters stay home because they are sick of politicians.

I spend a couple hours a day reading about current events and haven't voted in years. Most people I know that vote think that if they don't the government is going to take their guns or their abortions.

 

[Jhhnn]

There we go!

According to democrats Americans are ignorant, uninformed morons who need the government and media to tell them how to think and act.

Hmmm... I think that's what Repubs thought & did in the wake of 9/11 to advance Neocon foreign policy.

Jeb's team includes a lot of people who helped in that. It was the good old days, when the terrar color wheel spun madly, the fearmongering was epic, the innuendo, accusations & outright lies laid on thick, really thick, along with a lot of Israeli tail wagging the American dog. And it worked beautifully. We invaded another country for no really good reason at all, spend incredible amounts of treasure just so we could end up like br'er rabbit when he smacked the tarbaby.

An easy way to head back in the same direction is to have the same people lead, obviously.

 

[kage69]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...cy-team-is-eerily-familiar-in-1-venn-diagram/

I used to think he was smarter than his brother, now I'm starting to have doubts. You got to be seriously fucking stupid to want to bring the PNAC boys back on stage.

Go for it Jeb. That's gonna fly like a fart in church.

 

[Jhhnn]

Offensive and defensive moves are often blurred for all but the most simplistic among us.

You sound like one of those advocating our military only defend our borders. I.e., we only fight here and only after attacked. I hope not because that's a horrible idea. Only a fool readily accepts or advocates a fight on his own territory. It is a thing to be strenuously avoided.

Fern

Yeh, and those lines are often blurred intentionally in the Neocon effort to sell perpetual war to the American public. We've been in Afghanistan for 13 years and the place doesn't look to be any more stabilized than when we started. Our time in Iraq left them shattered & weak, while efforts in N Africa & Syria aren't really turning out as intended. But now, well now we really need to get boots on the ground in Ukraine and bomb the shit out of the Iranians, too, because..... 'Murrica! Hell Yeh!

 

[Blanky]

how much more do you need to spend?

the enemy isn't a country anymore it's an idea.

You obviously are not a good patriot and you want to see America weakened. You are a terrorist lover and don't support the troops!:awe:

Oh and if this country elects another Bush we should all kill ourselves.

 

[oobydoobydoo]

Since Mr. Reagan, the GOP has been running on:
1. Cutting taxes
2. Increasing Defense spending
3. Getting tough on crime

Other popular issues:
Anti-abortion
Anti-birth control for women
Forcing Southern Baptist dogma onto everyone
Demonizing the poor, unions, education, brown skin "illegal aliens", scientists, etc
Voter suppression
Islamphobia

I think Mr. Bush is going to go with
Cutting Taxes for the wealthiest
Increasing Defense spending
Anti-abortion
The demonization of the poor and unions
Islamphobia

I don't think he will press on the abortion issue after the primaries. He will definitely go with all the rest though.


How does this party get any votes at all?? It is the same dumb platform of ignorance and fear that the GOP runs every single election. And somehow, they win!

 

[Darwin333]

Offensive and defensive moves are often blurred for all but the most simplistic among us.

You sound like one of those advocating our military only defend our borders. I.e., we only fight here and only after attacked. I hope not because that's a horrible idea. Only a fool readily accepts or advocates a fight on his own territory. It is a thing to be strenuously avoided.

Fern

Isn't it great that we have friendly neighbors at every single one of our land borders and oceans between us and any other potential enemy?

As isolated as we are you'd think that at least a few European countries would be spending at least as much as us on .mil. Why do you suppose it is less of a concern to them than us?

 

[soundforbjt]

I don't think he will press on the abortion issue after the primaries. He will definitely go with all the rest though.


How does this party get any votes at all?? It is the same dumb platform of ignorance and fear that the GOP runs every single election. And somehow, they win!

They're the absolute best at propaganda, hands down, no contest.

 

[Darwin333]

Considering China's, Russia's, and Iran's antics of late, I'm not entirely opposed to this.

Would you consider a compromise, how about we spend exactly as much as all three of those countries combined, and no more, until such time that we are actually at war?

 

[sportage]

I have already said many times, the 2016 election will be a choice and only one choice between war and no war.
War, from all the Bush clan that still believe involvement in the middle east can actually lead to success.
And the choice from the other side, believing enough is enough.

Republicans have the nerve to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS, or our troop withdrawal as the reason for instability.
Republicans are still as loony as ever. And that is the scary as hell part.

Getting involved in the meddle east had no black or white. No win or lose.
Involvement in the middle east was like 50 shades of evil.
50 consequences. 50 probable outcomes. 50 eternal regrets.
And not one of the 50 possibilities a simple black or white outcome.

The Bush's started all this, bottom line, end of the story.
Everything that has happened has been a direct outcome and consequence from their idiotic way of looking at the middle east.
Treating that region and the people how they live and worship as if that could in any way be compared to our way of life and belief.

Its like speaking English to a Chinese, and the Chinese speaking their language in return, and walking away believing the two understood the each other.
Bush, all of them, believed and more so still believe that America could Americanize the middle east and Americanize a region, as well as their religion.
A religion older than ourselves.
And what we got was 50 shades of evil, 50 shades of hatred, with ISIS only the 5th of a full 45 shades of insanity.

Sure, go ahead America and elect another Bush, along with the very same Bush thugs that served under both Bush # 1 and Bush # 2.
Thugs the republican party are once again toting as the best of the best.

Jeb says he is not like his father or brother.
Jeb is in fact exactly like his father and his brother.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And fool me continually over and over, I'm just an fucking idiot.

 

[HomerJS]

I have already said many times, the 2016 election will be a choice and only one choice between war and no war.
War, from all the Bush clan that still believe involvement in the middle east can actually lead to success.
And the choice from the other side, believing enough is enough.

Republicans have the nerve to blame Obama for the rise of ISIS, or our troop withdrawal as the reason for instability.
Republicans are still as loony as ever. And that is the scary as hell part.

Getting involved in the meddle east had no black or white. No win or lose.
Involvement in the middle east was like 50 shades of evil.
50 consequences. 50 probable outcomes. 50 eternal regrets.
And not one of the 50 possibilities a simple black or white outcome.

The Bush's started all this, bottom line, end of the story.
Everything that has happened has been a direct outcome and consequence from their idiotic way of looking at the middle east.
Treating that region and the people how they live and worship as if that could in any way be compared to our way of life and belief.

Its like speaking English to a Chinese, and the Chinese speaking their language in return, and walking away believing the two understood the each other.
Bush, all of them, believed and more so still believe that America could Americanize the middle east and Americanize a region, as well as their religion.
A religion older than ourselves.
And what we got was 50 shades of evil, 50 shades of hatred, with ISIS only the 5th of a full 45 shades of insanity.

Sure, go ahead America and elect another Bush, along with the very same Bush thugs that served under both Bush # 1 and Bush # 2.
Thugs the republican party are once again toting as the best of the best.

Jeb says he is not like his father or brother.
Jeb is in fact exactly like his father and his brother.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And fool me continually over and over, I'm just an fucking idiot.

Try this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

 

[HomerJS]

Jesus Christ

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...cy-team-is-eerily-familiar-in-1-venn-diagram/

Paul Wolfowitz. uggggggh

Ok look at the above...

And now listen to this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYAXncCzbG8

Are you fucking kidding me???