Jeb Bush: "You Need To Work Longer Hours"

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I think more people can be put to work. The OP reported "full time" numbers, but a large number of people are stuck doing part time work. I would believe he means people that are part time need help getting full time work, which would help the economy.

There are a large amount of people that are working part time. Places like Walmart specifically set things up so people stay out of the "full-time" range in order to not provide healthcare/benefits.

If that's what he means... then, well, he made the wrong choice of words. I have no idea which one he meant, but he can blow me if he thinks 40hrs isn't enough.
 

Darwin333

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Interesting, I am salaried I don't get paid for working more hours.

so there goes his theory

Myself and all of my estimators are salaried. The more we work the more work/projects my company gets. More projects requires more labor and manpower which would probably help the economy a lot more than paying myself overtime.

In my case I already work 65ish hours a week and have all the necessary motivation to work as long and hard as reasonably possible.
 

1prophet

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No matter what Bush meant it is wrong because the answer isn't more work but better wages.


Except corporate America and their political office holding lackeys have brainwashed America that cheaper is better,

hate the illegal but love the cost savings, demand a living wage, tough environmental, labor, work safety laws until they have to pay for them, then suddenly made in China is better because of the lower price,

and when millions of their better wage jobs along with the benefits are gone, instead of fixing the cause they cry about the injustice of McDonald's not paying $15 an hour minimum wage while looking for the best deal on the dollar menu.
 

Subyman

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You do realize that work force participation has nothing to do with working, "longer hours"? Workforce participation are people who are employed or are looking for work who are between 16-64. Saying we need to increase the workforce participation rate by having people work more hours shows a lack of understanding on his part.

You can claim he misspoke but trying to claim to know better than others about what he was trying to say is dishonest because you don't know what he was trying to say you are only hoping he was stating what you think he said.

Look at the last sentence in the post you quoted. :eek:
 
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Where is Jeb Bush working longer hours?

Good point. Personally I feel Congress should have a 50-60 hour work week and campaigning doesn't count. I am ok giving people up for election some extra time off (some). They should be in session minimal 48 weeks per year and I'm ok with them having 8 holidays per year. They can choose.
 

dank69

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Good point. Personally I feel Congress should have a 50-60 hour work week and campaigning doesn't count. I am ok giving people up for election some extra time off (some). They should be in session minimal 48 weeks per year and I'm ok with them having 8 holidays per year. They can choose.

I'd be surprised if representatives don't work very long hours.
 

realibrad

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You can tell the election is coming up. A few try to point out that the OP is taking the comments out of context. Then those on the left try to say that Jeb is evil for telling people to work more than 47 hrs. Those on the right defend the idea that people should not take hand outs and should work.

I have seen only a few actually address that Jeb did not say that in his quote. Then I check google news and see that there are a bunch of articles on this already. Sad.
 
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I'd be surprised if representatives don't work very long hours.

Occasionally they do. Consistently they do not. I'd bet if the campaigning is factored out its well under 2,000 hours per year.

**edit** just did a quick search and they work 1,350 to 1,700 hours per year. That figure includes community out reach because its their job to speak to their citizens. Some spend more time than others performing this function. So they average 70-85% of what a full time job is (not a Jeb full time job)
 
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Attic

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I think most people other than the slobbering, knee jerk political hacks thought that's what he meant. However, you know how the hacks from either side work, grab an out of context phrase or statement and run with it like it means something.

This.

It's why we can't have nice things. Politics plays to the LCD, and there's real deep levels of stupid going on in both parties.
 

theeedude

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You'd think after Romney's 47%, Republicans would learn to stop calling Americans lazy. But in the "job creator" circles they go around in, that's what they believe.
 

TheSlamma

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You'd think after Romney's 47%, Republicans would learn to stop calling Americans lazy. But in the "job creator" circles they go around in, that's what they believe.
Do you want them to start lying instead of admitting how much they want back their slave/sweat shop labor? I don't, then we would have 2 parties lying about it.
 

Jhhnn

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While he will never get my vote in a zillion years I think this is taken out of context. Subyman I agree, we have a lot of people not in the workforce at all. That is why those unemployment numbers look the way they do also.

Problem is we don't just have unemployed people, we have unemployable people. I think we have a couple in this subforum even :p

What a load of smug bullshit. You'll have to do better than victim blaming.
 

ivwshane

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Bush clarified his comments, unfortunately he did so while spouting every republican talking point (regulations are forcing businesses to cut back hours, overtime requirements are doing the same, etc).

If people hate Hilary for her perceived ties with corporations then they should be even unhappier with bush and his outright alignment with big businesses.

I'm hoping not only is sanders the next president but I'm hoping people vote out republicans and give back control to the dems so sanders can implement his policies.
 

Nebor

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Bush clarified his comments, unfortunately he did so while spouting every republican talking point (regulations are forcing businesses to cut back hours, overtime requirements are doing the same, etc).

If people hate Hilary for her perceived ties with corporations then they should be even unhappier with bush and his outright alignment with big businesses.

I'm hoping not only is sanders the next president but I'm hoping people vote out republicans and give back control to the dems so sanders can implement his policies.

I'm hoping Sanders and Trump come together on one ticket. That way everyone's very, very unhappy.
 

Jhhnn

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Do you want them to start lying instead of admitting how much they want back their slave/sweat shop labor? I don't, then we would have 2 parties lying about it.

They don't want that kind of labor back. Other govts are a lot more accommodating than our own in terms of wages & conditions. What they want is to disown the welfare state that was created in response to their own actions.

Few people really understand that. We've allowed our own capitalists to hollow out the economy. The American people are little different than we were 40 years ago. What's different is the economic environment created by financialized multinational supply side Reaganomics. When Ronnie told us that they'd do us right if we'd just unleash the power of Capitalism, many of us believed him. 35 years into it, it's not quite working out the way they told us it would. But they still believe, believe, believe... despite the evidence all around them.
 

ivwshane

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I'm hoping Sanders and Trump come together on one ticket. That way everyone's very, very unhappy.

Trump is just a tool to make the actual GOP nomination look sane. Without him the whole party would be ignored as bat shit crazy and semi retarded.
 

Fayd

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Good point. Personally I feel Congress should have a 50-60 hour work week and campaigning doesn't count. I am ok giving people up for election some extra time off (some). They should be in session minimal 48 weeks per year and I'm ok with them having 8 holidays per year. They can choose.


Most work much longer hours than that.
 

Indus

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Interesting.. do we want a boring bush or a condescending clinton?

I hope the American People decide they want neither in the primaries so we actually have good choices.
 

Jhhnn

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Bush clarified his comments, unfortunately he did so while spouting every republican talking point (regulations are forcing businesses to cut back hours, overtime requirements are doing the same, etc).

If people hate Hilary for her perceived ties with corporations then they should be even unhappier with bush and his outright alignment with big businesses.

I'm hoping not only is sanders the next president but I'm hoping people vote out republicans and give back control to the dems so sanders can implement his policies.

Double standard? From Righties? Surely you jest.

Jeb: You just need to work more hours.

Us: So how about you & the Job Creators! cut loose with more hours & jobs?

Jeb: (Soft rustling of right wing canards while crickets chirp)

The truth is that big business is doing great, rarely better. That's not true for working people at all. Apparently they don't need any more workers than they already have for that to happen, huh? Workers still need them, however, one way or another.

Blame Obama? Blame the victims? Go ahead, fools. For Righties, it's a lot easier than admitting that we've been blued, screwed & tattooed by their own leadership.
 

Hugo Drax

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Agreed with Bush. American's today just aren't productive enough! Not like their parents were. Productivity must have been great back then.

He wants to squeeze a little more productivity out of the sheep so his investments provide a greater EPS.
 

Nebor

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Trump is just a tool to make the actual GOP nomination look sane. Without him the whole party would be ignored as bat shit crazy and semi retarded.

AFAIK Trump is #2 in polling and rising fast.