Jeb Bush: "You Need To Work Longer Hours"

[purbeast0]

working more hours != being more productive.

i'd argue that cutting work hours could make the workforce more productive than it is.

hell i barely hit 40 hours a week, if that, and i'm one of the most productive people on my project.

 

[dank69]

I think more people can be put to work. The OP reported "full time" numbers, but a large number of people are stuck doing part time work. I would believe he means people that are part time need help getting full time work, which would help the economy.

When he says "people should work longer hours" that implies that it is the people's fault they can't find full time work or don't want full time work. So even with his clarification that he is referring to the underemployed, his comment sounds like victim blaming to me. He didn't say "the government needs to make sure there are full time jobs for everyone that wants one."

 

[Sonikku]

If you are hourly your hours paid for are set by employer.

If you are salaried your pay is fixed so how is it "No"

Indeed! If people just put in more hours and increased their productivity than surely the job creators would be grateful and raise their pay. Just like the last 30 years.

 

[purbeast0]

ROFL, that's funny. He says it like it's all up to the worker. The workforce participation being at all time lows is due to boomers retiring, outsourcing of our jobs abroad, and crappy economy all around. Yes, we should strive for higher workforce participation, but just because a person wants a job, doesn't mean there is one for him. Next, I don't know anyone who's working full time who's working 40 hours or less. The 42-47 seems to be accurate based on my experience. This may not sound like much but 48 hours for example is like working 6 days a week already. He wants workers to work more than that? And then there is also implication that if workers just become more productive then that will translate into more income for their families. That has not been the case for the last 20 years. US workers have seen huge productivity gains in the last 10-20 years and yet inflation adjusted salaries are stagnant. Most of the productivity gains went to the top 0.1%. What makes him think it will be different this time around? Ugh...

in 10 years as a software developer, i've worked more than 40 hours a week exactly 2 times. it was coming in on a saturday both times due to the shitty company i worked for not knowing how to do project management and setting unrealistic expectations. while i was compensated for those 16 hours, i was not with that company for even a year.

 

[ivwshane]

Why anyone would listen to any bush on any policy is beyond me.

Can anyone list a successful policy by a bush? Serious question (there has to be at least one).

 

[Thump553]

I thought he was the smart Bush.

He's channeling Romney.

 

[Moonbeam]

You have to hand it to the defectiveness of the conservative brain, a brain that froths with anger at the thought of government control and spends its life as a willing corporate slave.

 

[SMOGZINN]

How ever you take his statements, he offered no solutions. For those that are not getting full time hours getting more sounds like a great idea, but if they knew how to go about that they would already be doing so. What he said is not a solution, it is at best a poor description of (part of) the problem.

 

[hal2kilo]

Most field engineers, supervisors, and technicians I know within the oil field services are non-exempt.

I'm exempt, but I get paid regular wages (straight time) for overtime.

 

[sm625]

You cant have 4% growth when the richest 1% are making 10% by harvesting 3% of the jobs and sending them 50% around the world.

 

[Sonikku]

I thought he was the smart Bush.

He is.

 

[WHAMPOM]

I'm a salaried worker and I earn overtime.

So how is it in the poverty level for a one earner family? Does bottom middle class bother you?

 

[Mxylplyx]

Seems right to me.

People need to work instead of taking handouts, otherwise we're going to end up like Greece.

Anyone suggesting that any parallels at all can be drawn between the economic situations of America and Greece proves themselves an idiot.

 

[Jhhnn]

If the Job Creators wanted more Americans to work more hours, then workers & wannabee workers would oblige them, obviously.

Given that they don't want that, Jeb just has his head up his ass in the same way as most righties on the subject. He achieved insertion the hard way, by bending over backwards.

 

[Mxylplyx]

If the Job Creators wanted more Americans to work more hours, then workers & wannabee workers would oblige them, obviously.

Given that they don't want that, Jeb just has his head up his ass in the same way as most righties on the subject. He achieved insertion the hard way, by bending over backwards.

Reminds me of Romney suggesting that people should borrow money from their parents to start a business. Proves how wildly out of touch some of these silver spoon fed politicians are. I often times think some politicians over-emphasize their humble upbringings, but it is a desirable quality to have in a candidate when you see how out of touch the alternative can be.

 

[OutHouse]

I'm a salaried worker and I earn overtime.

thats very rare.

 

[OutHouse]

Why anyone would listen to any bush on any policy is beyond me.

Can anyone list a successful policy by a bush? Serious question (there has to be at least one).

i can say the same about Hillary.


for the bush policy question how about Enacted Medicare Part D

 

[ivwshane]

i can say the same about Hillary.


for the bush policy question how about Enacted Medicare Part D

You are comparing one person with three (and two were presidents and one a governor)? Ok...

Medicare part D, although it had a huge flaw (donut hole) and it didn't allow for negotiating of drug prices (wtf!), sure, I'll call that a success. Yeah for socialism!

 

[Moonbeam]

No matter what Bush meant it is wrong because the answer isn't more work but better wages.

 

[senseamp]

Sounds like "47%" all over again.

 

[Newell Steamer]

He's channeling Romney Fink.

FTFY.

 

[Subyman]

I don't really care for Bush, but I think people are running with the wrong impression here. He isn't saying that full timers working 47 hours a week are "lazy" and need to work 50+. Obviously that's not what he means. Anyone trying to push that message is either caught up in the misrepresentation of what he said or trying to push a partisan agenda.

Here is his quote:

workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours" and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in.

He is right about work force participation rates:

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

One way to increase productivity while still having low participation is to more efficiently leverage those that are working. As I said earlier, obviously we can't demand those working 47 full-time hours to increase anymore. They are tapped out, but moving people up from part-time to full time will have a large impact. Working longer hours is only one way to help stimulate more productivity. There are others, such as tackling the participation rate directly. However with so many 18-26yos in college, we may never return to the participation rates of yore. His comment is kind of strange though since hours worked does not raise the participation rate.

 

[TheSlamma]

While he will never get my vote in a zillion years I think this is taken out of context. Subyman I agree, we have a lot of people not in the workforce at all. That is why those unemployment numbers look the way they do also.

Problem is we don't just have unemployed people, we have unemployable people. I think we have a couple in this subforum even

 

[dank69]

I don't really care for Bush, but I think people are running with the wrong impression here. He isn't saying that full timers working 47 hours a week are "lazy" and need to work 50+. Obviously that's not what he means. Anyone trying to push that message is either caught up in the misrepresentation of what he said or trying to push a partisan agenda.

Here is his quote:



He is right about work force participation rates:

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

One way to increase productivity while still having low participation is to more efficiently leverage those that are working. As I said earlier, obviously we can't demand those working 47 full-time hours to increase anymore. They are tapped out, but moving people up from part-time to full time will have a large impact. Working longer hours is only one way to help stimulate more productivity. There are others, such as tackling the participation rate directly. However with so many 18-26yos in college, we may never return to the participation rates of yore. His comment is kind of strange though since hours worked does not raise the participation rate.

As has been mentioned every time participation rates are brought up, this is the predicted result of the baby-boomer generation beginning to retire.

 

[ivwshane]

I don't really care for Bush, but I think people are running with the wrong impression here. He isn't saying that full timers working 47 hours a week are "lazy" and need to work 50+. Obviously that's not what he means. Anyone trying to push that message is either caught up in the misrepresentation of what he said or trying to push a partisan agenda.

Here is his quote:



He is right about work force participation rates:

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

One way to increase productivity while still having low participation is to more efficiently leverage those that are working. As I said earlier, obviously we can't demand those working 47 full-time hours to increase anymore. They are tapped out, but moving people up from part-time to full time will have a large impact. Working longer hours is only one way to help stimulate more productivity. There are others, such as tackling the participation rate directly. However with so many 18-26yos in college, we may never return to the participation rates of yore. His comment is kind of strange though since hours worked does not raise the participation rate.

You do realize that work force participation has nothing to do with working, "longer hours"? Workforce participation are people who are employed or are looking for work who are between 16-64. Saying we need to increase the workforce participation rate by having people work more hours shows a lack of understanding on his part.

You can claim he misspoke but trying to claim to know better than others about what he was trying to say is dishonest because you don't know what he was trying to say you are only hoping he was stating what you think he said.