Jeb Bush sinks to a new low. Jeb bush wants probe into terri schiavo's collapse.

[Phokus]

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (AP) -- Gov. Jeb Bush asked a prosecutor Friday to investigate why Terri Schiavo collapsed 15 years ago, calling into question how long it took her husband to call 911 after he found her.

In a letter faxed to Pinellas-Pasco County State Attorney Bernie McCabe, Bush said Michael Schiavo testified in a 1992 medical malpractice trial that he found his wife collapsed at 5 a.m., and he said in a 2003 television interview that he found her about 4:30 a.m. He called 911 at 5:40 a.m.

"Between 40 and 70 minutes elapsed before the call was made, and I am aware of no explanation for the delay," Bush wrote. "In light of this new information, I urge you to take a fresh look at this case without any preconceptions as to the outcome."

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment Friday from The Associated Press. In comments in The Miami Herald, he said Terri Schiavo would not have survived if her husband had not immediately called 911.

"It's absolutely preposterous," Felos said. "If he had waited 70 minutes she would have been dead."

Terri Schiavo died March 31 from dehydration after her feeding tube was disconnected at her husband's request, despite unsuccessful efforts by her parents, Bush and others to keep her alive.

An autopsy released Wednesday concluded that she had been in a persistent vegetative state and revealed no evidence that she was strangled or otherwise abused before she collapsed.

It left unanswered the question of why Terri Schiavo's heart stopped, cutting oxygen off from her brain. The autopsy showed she suffered irreversible brain damage and her brain had shrunk to half the normal size for her age.

HAY GUYS, lets ruin Michael Schiavo's life even further so Jeb can run for president! Absolutely disgusting. This goes beyond pandering to the religious right. THis is morally reprehensible.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/17/schiavo.governor.ap/index.html

 

[1EZduzit]

15 years after the fact?? Jeb must have an out=of-work friend who needs a job.

 

[cKGunslinger]

*sigh*

Your next president.

 

[markgm]

Shouldn't you be working

 

[1cito]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
*sigh*

Your next president.

Thank you Hillary Clinton!!

 

[TraumaRN]

I am wondering what he is trying to get at with this? Is it trying to ruin Schiavo's life further or political gain or what? After 15 years it's hard to find ANY evidence, medical or otherwise to do anything....i dunno....I just dont understand this at all, cant Terri just rest in peace??

EDIT: And his lawyer is right, if he had waited she'd be dead, for example in a hospital when someone codes(read heart stoppage or something similar) they always have a person counting minutes because after 15-20 minutes a person will have total and irreversible brain damage, usually after 25-30 minutes the damage is so complete that they cant save you...so it's silly to suggest that he waited THAT long to call EMS....

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I am wondering what he is trying to get at with this? Is it trying to ruin Schiavo's life further or political gain or what? After 15 years it's hard to find ANY evidence, medical or otherwise to do anything....i dunno....I just dont understand this at all, cant Terri just rest in peace??

EDIT: And his lawyer is right, if he had waited she'd be dead, for example in a hospital when someone codes(read heart stoppage or something similar) they always have a person counting minutes because after 15-20 minutes a person will have total and irreversible brain damage, usually after 25-30 minutes the damage is so complete that they cant save you...so it's silly to suggest that he waited THAT long to call EMS....

Repost - I had put this in the Official Terri thread already.

Anyway, Terri is Resting in Peace, it is Jeb and the rest of the Republican Religious base that won't rest.

Will the American defective Borg Republican supporters wake up to this and unassimulate themselves is the question.

 

[Turkish]

Well he's a Bush, isn't he? :laugh:

 

[RightIsWrong]

Can he be impeached for abuse of power?

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Would hoping Jeb Bush becomes braindread (soon) be wrong?

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Would hoping Jeb Bush becomes braindread (soon) be wrong?

Here is to hoping that if nothing else, the despicable actions by Jeb can at least serve to shorten his political career. That would be one positive to come from this whole situation.

I know that if he was my governor and continued to waste my tax money and government time on a private issue decided long ago in the courts, I'd do my best to make sure his political career ends as quickly as possible.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I sent Gov Bush the following e-mail:

Dear Governor Bush:

I am writing to register my displeasure with your recent decision to open an investigation into the 911 call placed by Michael Schiavo following his wife Terri's collapse.

As an experienced criminal litigator who has prosecuted and defended dozens of felony cases, I find your actions in this instance unjustifiable, particularly in the context of the recent release of Mrs. Schiavo's autopsy results, which found no evidence of foul play.

It appears to me that, like your efforts to keep Mrs. Schiavo maintained on a feeding tube, you are using an intensely personal situation for personal political gain, and I can't think of too many lower things a politician can do. Mrs. Schiavo's collapse, and lapse into a coma and persistent vegetative state, have been exhaustively reviewed in court innumerable times, and we are at least several years removed from a time in which the investigation you suggest might conceivably have served any legitimate purpose.

The upshot is that Mrs. Schiavo is gone. Your efforts to pick at her bones for political gain cannot change this. You are continuing to cause unnecessary and pointless pain to her family, and I can't help but believe that the public will reject that, as it did the shameful machinations you, President Bush, and the United States Congress engaged in in order to keep Ms. Schiavo alive, against her own wishes and those of her next of kin. In that sense, I suspect the natural order of things will mean that you pay a price: your efforts will further jeopardize what was once a perfectly viable candidacy for President in 2008 or 2012.

You have a responsibility not to waste your state's time, energy and resources in an effort to further villify an innocent man, but you appear to feel political exigencies make that a desirable course of action. I think you're wrong, and suggest you call off the hounds. It's the right thing to do.

Very Respectfully,


[my name], Esq.

 

[HigherGround]

I guess, that's part of a contingency plan they'd conjurned in case of unfavorable autopsy results. I really hope Jon Steward rips Jebediah to pieces during his next Daily Show broadcast.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I sent Gov Bush the following e-mail:

Dear Governor Bush:

I am writing to register my displeasure with your recent decision to open an investigation into the 911 call placed by Michael Schiavo following his wife Terri's collapse.

As an experienced criminal litigator who has prosecuted and defended dozens of felony cases, I find your actions in this instance unjustifiable, particularly in the context of the recent release of Mrs. Schiavo's autopsy results, which found no evidence of foul play.

It appears to me that, like your efforts to keep Mrs. Schiavo maintained on a feeding tube, you are using an intensely personal situation for personal political gain, and I can't think of too many lower things a politician can do. Mrs. Schiavo's collapse, and lapse into a coma and persistent vegetative state, have been exhaustively reviewed in court innumerable times, and we are at least several years removed from a time in which the investigation you suggest might conceivably have served any legitimate purpose.

The upshot is that Mrs. Schiavo is gone. Your efforts to pick at her bones for political gain cannot change this. You are continuing to cause unnecessary and pointless pain to her family, and I can't help but believe that the public will reject that, as it did the shameful machinations you, President Bush, and the United States Congress engaged in in order to keep Ms. Schiavo alive, against her own wishes and those of her next of kin. In that sense, I suspect the natural order of things will mean that you pay a price: your efforts will further jeopardize what was once a perfectly viable candidacy for President in 2008 or 2012.

You have a responsibility not to waste your state's time, energy and resources in an effort to further villify an innocent man, but you appear to feel political exigencies make that a desirable course of action. I think you're wrong, and suggest you call off the hounds. It's the right thing to do.

Very Respectfully,


[my name], Esq.

well written letter, sir. you have my appreciation.

 

[Sysbuilder05]

Its simple,all those damn "killer Liberals" who wanted Schiavo to be able to honor his wifes wishes were RIGHT,and the RW religious nutcases were dead WRONG.

She was NEVER going to be rehabilited,her brain had shrunk to half its size. She was blind and there was ZERO trama to her brain. In short Michael Schiavo didn't do a DAMN THING to cause what happened to his wife. She did it HERSELF from trying to lose weight. Hell,lets see if we can't get Richard Carpenter up on charges,he must have KILLED Karen right??

Those facts PISS the RW zealots off to no end,they want Schiavo up on murder charges even if they have to trump some up. There so fu**king stupid they won't even accept the results from MEDICAL DOCTORS. Gawd...........

 

[XMan]

Have you guys read the ME's report? There was no evidence of a heart attack, as was supposed, to cause Terri to collapse. So why did she end up the way she was? Medically speaking there wasn't any evidence to support bulimia/heart attack as a reason for her brain dramage.

Given that it's understandable why an investigation might be in order.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I sent Gov Bush the following e-mail:

Dear Governor Bush:

I am writing to register my displeasure with your recent decision to open an investigation into the 911 call placed by Michael Schiavo following his wife Terri's collapse.

As an experienced criminal litigator who has prosecuted and defended dozens of felony cases, I find your actions in this instance unjustifiable, particularly in the context of the recent release of Mrs. Schiavo's autopsy results, which found no evidence of foul play.

It appears to me that, like your efforts to keep Mrs. Schiavo maintained on a feeding tube, you are using an intensely personal situation for personal political gain, and I can't think of too many lower things a politician can do. Mrs. Schiavo's collapse, and lapse into a coma and persistent vegetative state, have been exhaustively reviewed in court innumerable times, and we are at least several years removed from a time in which the investigation you suggest might conceivably have served any legitimate purpose.

The upshot is that Mrs. Schiavo is gone. Your efforts to pick at her bones for political gain cannot change this. You are continuing to cause unnecessary and pointless pain to her family, and I can't help but believe that the public will reject that, as it did the shameful machinations you, President Bush, and the United States Congress engaged in in order to keep Ms. Schiavo alive, against her own wishes and those of her next of kin. In that sense, I suspect the natural order of things will mean that you pay a price: your efforts will further jeopardize what was once a perfectly viable candidacy for President in 2008 or 2012.

You have a responsibility not to waste your state's time, energy and resources in an effort to further villify an innocent man, but you appear to feel political exigencies make that a desirable course of action. I think you're wrong, and suggest you call off the hounds. It's the right thing to do.

Very Respectfully,


[my name], Esq.

Nicely done and I agree with you 100%. Jeb is doing nothing but political pandering.

:thumbsup:

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: X-Man
Have you guys read the ME's report? There was no evidence of a heart attack, as was supposed, to cause Terri to collapse. So why did she end up the way she was? Medically speaking there wasn't any evidence to support bulimia/heart attack as a reason for her brain dramage.

Given that it's understandable why an investigation might be in order.

Why? What difference does it make? They ruled out any kind of foul play, so the bottom line is that she collapsed for some natural reason, so just let it go for god's sake. The poor woman's name and image has been dragged through enough at this point. Let her rest in peace.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Sysbuilder05
Its simple,all those damn "killer Liberals" who wanted Schiavo to be able to honor his wifes wishes were RIGHT,and the RW religious nutcases were dead WRONG.

She was NEVER going to be rehabilited,her brain had shrunk to half its size. She was blind and there was ZERO trama to her brain. In short Michael Schiavo didn't do a DAMN THING to cause what happened to his wife. She did it HERSELF from trying to lose weight. Hell,lets see if we can't get Richard Carpenter up on charges,he must have KILLED Karen right??

Those facts PISS the RW zealots off to no end,they want Schiavo up on murder charges even if they have to trump some up. There so fu**king stupid they won't even accept the results from MEDICAL DOCTORS. Gawd...........

So.. what are you trying to say?

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I sent Gov Bush the following e-mail:

Dear Governor Bush:

I am writing to register my displeasure with your recent decision to open an investigation into the 911 call placed by Michael Schiavo following his wife Terri's collapse.

As an experienced criminal litigator who has prosecuted and defended dozens of felony cases, I find your actions in this instance unjustifiable, particularly in the context of the recent release of Mrs. Schiavo's autopsy results, which found no evidence of foul play.

It appears to me that, like your efforts to keep Mrs. Schiavo maintained on a feeding tube, you are using an intensely personal situation for personal political gain, and I can't think of too many lower things a politician can do. Mrs. Schiavo's collapse, and lapse into a coma and persistent vegetative state, have been exhaustively reviewed in court innumerable times, and we are at least several years removed from a time in which the investigation you suggest might conceivably have served any legitimate purpose.

The upshot is that Mrs. Schiavo is gone. Your efforts to pick at her bones for political gain cannot change this. You are continuing to cause unnecessary and pointless pain to her family, and I can't help but believe that the public will reject that, as it did the shameful machinations you, President Bush, and the United States Congress engaged in in order to keep Ms. Schiavo alive, against her own wishes and those of her next of kin. In that sense, I suspect the natural order of things will mean that you pay a price: your efforts will further jeopardize what was once a perfectly viable candidacy for President in 2008 or 2012.

You have a responsibility not to waste your state's time, energy and resources in an effort to further villify an innocent man, but you appear to feel political exigencies make that a desirable course of action. I think you're wrong, and suggest you call off the hounds. It's the right thing to do.

Very Respectfully,


[my name], Esq.

Nice one, except it'll never get even close to Bush III.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: X-Man
Have you guys read the ME's report? There was no evidence of a heart attack, as was supposed, to cause Terri to collapse. So why did she end up the way she was? Medically speaking there wasn't any evidence to support bulimia/heart attack as a reason for her brain dramage.

Given that it's understandable why an investigation might be in order.

There are other things that cause heart stoppage besides the 'Generic Heart Attack'.
Potassium imbalance is what was determined at the time to have caused the stoppage.
She was not eating much food, but she was drinking 8 - 10 glasses of tea a day.

Now Potassium, Potassium Chloride in particular - is one of, and perhaps the most
potent of the cocktail of chemicals that are used in lethal injecction executions.
Tea drinks are known to contain Potassium.
I don't know this ladies tollerance to, or build-up of, Potassium in her system,
but it is known that she personally exceeded that amount.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: X-Man
Have you guys read the ME's report? There was no evidence of a heart attack, as was supposed, to cause Terri to collapse. So why did she end up the way she was? Medically speaking there wasn't any evidence to support bulimia/heart attack as a reason for her brain dramage.

Given that it's understandable why an investigation might be in order.

it MAY have been in order a decade ago but now it's just political pandering. the ME's report said her brain had shrunk to less than half its normal size and no hope of rehabilitation. why can't the state respect the legal and binding contract of marriage that terry and her husband entered into for life. her husband superceded her parents' authority once they (terry and hubby) agreed to be wed. simple as that, end of discussion.

 

[CQuinn]

Originally posted by: X-Man
Have you guys read the ME's report? There was no evidence of a heart attack, as was supposed, to cause Terri to collapse. So why did she end up the way she was? Medically speaking there wasn't any evidence to support bulimia/heart attack as a reason for her brain dramage.

Given that it's understandable why an investigation might be in order.

No it isn't; given that 15 years have passed while Terri was under almost constant medical care.
The chances of finding the cause of her original collapse are equally 15 years removed and
covered by 15 years of medical attention. The ME would also not be able to conclusively tell you what Terri
ate the night before her collapse, because it also would not show up to a significant degree in an
autopy done 15 years after the fact.

If the actual time it took for the 911 call was worth bringing into question, then in over 12 years and
24 court challenges specifically addressing Michael Shaivo's right to act as Terri's guardian, you
would think it would have been brought up a couple of times.

http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/timeline.htm

In fact, it would have been made an issue in the original malpractice lawsuits in 1992.

 

[TraumaRN]

I'll repeat myself from earlier, if her heart had stopped for more than 30 minutes she would have been dead. Period. In any US hospital CPR is stopped after 30 minutes because after that point organ and brain damage is too excessive for any sort of life, hence if Terri's heart had stopped for "40 to 70 minutes" she would have been dead. End of story. There is no way Schiavo could have waited that long to call 911

 

[sandorski]

Jeb's just fishing for a justification for the whole spectacle now.