Jeb Bush on Climate Change. WTF???

[Genx87]

Inane, lol. The guy did everything except formally renounce his citizenship. You think he thought of himself as a US citizen? You must be joking.

So what? None of his personal views has anything to do with Obama becoming judge and executioner.

Anyways how do you come to the conclusion you don't support execution but argue for it at the same time?

 

[dank69]

So what? None of his personal views has anything to do with Obama becoming judge and executioner.

Anyways how do you come to the conclusion you don't support execution but argue for it at the same time?

Not arguing for it if you care to pay attention. Just arguing for why I don't believe he qualifies as a US citizen. Seriously, you not able to tell the difference?

 

[nickqt]

I would say killing an American citizen without trial is in the realm of "shredding the Constitution," wouldn't you? Harvecrite seemed so concerned with Constitution shredding when a Republican was in office.....

Tell that to the US citizens killed on a daily basis by local/state police.

Oh, no outrage there? Or just lesser outrage at US citizens killed on a daily basis when some black man in a White House isn't doing it?

The US is an Empire, and using drones to murder wedding parties is terrorism. Full stop. I'm not going to wrap myself in an American flag and trot out idiotic saying like "these colors don't run" as was done by your side of the political spectrum.

That said, Obama isn't nearly "as bad" as Bush. As of yet, no 911 on his watch, and no wrong countries invaded with whole regions destabilized. Obama's "Katrina" was a website not functioning particularly well on day 1. Totally the same, if you discount thousands of dead Americans.

Most libruuls aren't A-OK with Obama's continuation of Bush's drone program. But guess what. Y'all were OK with it and cried and complained about libruuuuls hating 'Murrica for so long that we're now desensitized about it. It's been going on for over a decade now. Just like you stop smelling the stench of the zoo after half an hour inside the gates, libruuuls still hate the drone program like we did when y'all were cheering it on, but we've grown accustomed to it, because we said this would happen. And it did.

Libruuls being trapped in observable reality isn't all its cracked up to be.

 

[Genx87]

Not arguing for it if you care to pay attention. Just arguing for why I don't believe he qualifies as a US citizen. Seriously, you not able to tell the difference?

And if he doesn't qualify for being a citizen then what?

 

[rudeguy]

Tell that to the US citizens killed on a daily basis by local/state police.

Oh, no outrage there? Or just lesser outrage at US citizens killed on a daily basis when some black man in a White House isn't doing it?

The US is an Empire, and using drones to murder wedding parties is terrorism. Full stop. I'm not going to wrap myself in an American flag and trot out idiotic saying like "these colors don't run" as was done by your side of the political spectrum.

That said, Obama isn't nearly "as bad" as Bush. As of yet, no 911 on his watch, and no wrong countries invaded with whole regions destabilized. Obama's "Katrina" was a website not functioning particularly well on day 1. Totally the same, if you discount thousands of dead Americans.

Most libruuls aren't A-OK with Obama's continuation of Bush's drone program. But guess what. Y'all were OK with it and cried and complained about libruuuuls hating 'Murrica for so long that we're now desensitized about it. It's been going on for over a decade now. Just like you stop smelling the stench of the zoo after half an hour inside the gates, libruuuls still hate the drone program like we did when y'all were cheering it on, but we've grown accustomed to it, because we said this would happen. And it did.

Libruuls being trapped in observable reality isn't all its cracked up to be.

Please explain why you resort to spelling like an idiot when you feel threatened.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

As of yet, no 911 on his watch, and no wrong countries invaded with whole regions destabilized.

What about Libya?

Libruuls being trapped in observable reality isn't all its cracked up to be.

lol

 

[dank69]

And if he doesn't qualify for being a citizen then what?

Then the statement "Obama executed a US citizen without due process" would be false, wouldn't it? It would just be "Obama blew up another person in the ME."

 

[Genx87]

Then the statement "Obama executed a US citizen without due process" would be false, wouldn't it? It would just be "Obama blew up another person in the ME."

lol like I said earlier. You are rationalizing Obama executing an American citizen by creating a list of reasons why he isn't a citizen in your mind. And then argue you aren't for execution. It must be exhausting being you.

 

[dank69]

lol like I said earlier. You are rationalizing Obama executing an American citizen by creating a list of reasons why he isn't a citizen in your mind. And then argue you aren't for execution. It must be exhausting being you.

No more exhausting than people who hate Muslims pretending to be outraged that Obama killed a Muslim I'd imagine.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Tell that to the US citizens killed on a daily basis by local/state police.

Oh, no outrage there? Or just lesser outrage at US citizens killed on a daily basis when some black man in a White House isn't doing it?

Ah yes, the race card - the defense of the feeble-minded. Is this sort of like having "lesser outrage" when your team (D, in Harvey's case) does it while condemning the "other team" (R) who did it earlier?

Nevertheless, this isn't about your views or my views. I suggest you do a little research on why a few of us are vocally calling out Harvey for his recent posts on Bush. What am I saying -- I'm sure you were here during all of that. WWYBYWB?

 

[JimKiler]

Is fixing part of a problem better than fixing none of a problem?

That is a valid question and I would say yes unless it is cost prohibitive. Which is secondary and very debatable question. But I could argue we could spend the money on better things. For one i hear there is legislation to ban those giant container ships from x many miles of US shores if they pollute. I am all for that. Heck it would probably be cheaper for the US to pay for upgrade those 10 ships to pollute a lot less than to further reduce automobile emissions. But i see why that would be a very unpopular idea.

With our limited amount of resources, e.g. time and money, we have to be picky on what we spend money on and while some of that should go to the environment some should also go to education and preventing poverty and other worthwhile causes.

 

[dank69]

That is a valid question and I would say yes unless it is cost prohibitive. Which is secondary and very debatable question. But I could argue we could spend the money on better things. For one i hear there is legislation to ban those giant container ships from x many miles of US shores if they pollute. I am all for that. Heck it would probably be cheaper for the US to pay for upgrade those 10 ships to pollute a lot less than to further reduce automobile emissions. But i see why that would be a very unpopular idea.

With our limited amount of resources, e.g. time and money, we have to be picky on what we spend money on and while some of that should go to the environment some should also go to education and preventing poverty and other worthwhile causes.

Nice! You've achieved level 6!

 

[nickqt]

Please explain why you resort to spelling like an idiot when you feel threatened.

Spelling liberal like libruul?

Because I've seen enough righties do it that I find it endearing. I guess I could say libtard instead, but I just don't find that as endearing.

What about Libya?


lol

Libya was as bad as 911?
lol
Or are you trying to say that not invading Libya was as destabilizing to the middle east as invading Iraq?
lol

Ah yes, the race card - the defense of the feeble-minded. Is this sort of like having "lesser outrage" when your team (D, in Harvey's case) does it while condemning the "other team" (R)?

Nevertheless, this isn't about your views or my views. I suggest you do a little research on why a few of us are vocally calling out Harvey for his recent posts on Bush. What am I saying -- I'm sure you were here during all of that. WWYBYWB?

I find it funny that the entire f-ing Constitution is being "shredded" because Obama has killed a US citizen who was abroad and arguing for war against the US, whereas US citizens who are murdered inside the US on a daily basis gets a pass in the whole "shredding the Constitution" thing.

None of that changes what I said, though.

I've never had a problem opposing drones. I in fact call it exactly what it is: drone terrorism.

Imagine if Yemen had flying death robots continuously flying over US skies murdering its political enemies. What would we call it?

But the main point is that when liberals were upset over it, we were told to stop blaming America first. Of course in observable reality, we weren't blaming America, but were very worried about the precedent set by us killing people inside of their borders as we saw fit, whether with cruise missiles or flying death robots.

And, here we are.

 

[rudeguy]

Then the statement "Obama executed a US citizen without due process" would be false, wouldn't it? It would just be "Obama blew up another person in the ME."

Do you support the death penalty?

 

[rudeguy]

See this is part of the problem though because Bush IS a war criminal by any reasonable definition of the word. Your attempts to gloss over or deny Bush's war crimes does make it harder to go after "real" war criminals.

The shill rears his head again.

Keep on with the hyperbole. Its fun to watch you pretend to be so smart but still be caught up in idiotic statements like that.

Shill's gonna shill!

 

[realibrad]

Um are we to take your word for this? Are you God or something? I have heard multiple reasons from multiple warmists about why the models are failing. You believe you know the reason, just realize that your belief is based on faith, not on data. I suspect that global climate is more complex than climate scientists currently believe. I have strong doubts that they will be able to predict climate with any degree of precision/accuracy in my lifetime.

Here is a news article explaining.
http://www.climatenewsnetwork.net/earth-wins-time-as-land-and-seas-absorb-more-carbon/

Half of all the carbon emissions from burning fossil fuels remain in the atmosphere. The good news is that only half remain in the atmosphere, while the rest have been taken up by the living world and then absorbed into the land, and the ocean. That is, as carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere have risen, so also has the planet’s capacity to soak up atmospheric carbon.

There are multiple things going on, but a newer one is this.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/oceans-may-absorb-more-carbon-dioxide/

Many models have predicted that a warming ocean will take up less carbon because higher temperatures lead to smaller phytoplankton, which take less carbon to the bottom of the ocean when they die. The amount of carbon these plankton take with them is typically calculated based on the Redfield ratio.

What happens in science when a 'constant' isn't?
This change from a constant ratio to one that varies depending on latitude will likely shake up climate models, because it demonstrates regional variability, said Jasper Vrugt, another co-author.

There is also natural variations in the models that account for a large amount of data points.
http://phys.org/news/2015-02-global-slowdown-systematic-errors-climate.html

So no, not faith, but actual data and research. I don't know what you mean as precision or accuracy, but the data is there. It cant say when a storm will hit because of global warming, but it can predict that there will be more storms, and more drought, and increase in ocean levels ect.

I cant create a model that explains where each bone would break in my body if I were to get hit by a car on the highway. What I can do is tell you what is likely to break given some of the variables, but I can also say it wont be good.

 

[dank69]

Do you support the death penalty?

Nope

 

[JimKiler]

Nice! You've achieved level 6!

Is that a compliment or are you being derisive? I am not keeping up with your shtick.

 

[BoberFett]

This thread sure backfired.

 

[BoberFett]

Please explain why you resort to spelling like an idiot when you feel threatened.

Are you looking for a better reason than "Because nickqt is a drooling moron"?

 

[BoberFett]

It's funny to watch Dank69 prove himself to be exactly like the Republicans he claims to hate.

 

[nickqt]

Are you looking for a better reason than "Because nickqt is a drooling moron"?

Yes, clearly I'm a drooling moron because I spell the word liberal as libruul, the same way righties spell it librul, when not saying libtard.

Of course, coming from you, a loud mouth name calling cry baby who can't stop cursing and personally attacking anyone, I'll take it as a compliment.

LOL Libertarian crybabies.

 

[rudeguy]

Are you looking for a better reason than "Because nickqt is a drooling moron"?

It's just fun pointing out how childish he is. He acts like a 3rd grade short bus rider.

 

[ivwshane]

It's just fun pointing out how childish he is. He acts like a 3rd grade short bus rider.

Lol! The irony!


I guess you are using your other personality for this thread!

 

[nickqt]

It's just fun pointing out how childish he is. He acts like a 3rd grade short bus rider.

Yes, I'm childish, as you two call me names and you equate me to a "retard".

Keep on keepin' on!