Jason Aldean Shooting Music Video at 1927 Lynching Site Sparks Backlash

[Vic]

And to sum up my case against small towns, if they're so freakin great, how come they're still small towns? FFS you can buy a nice house in like half of them for the price of a new car, so why aren't more people flocking to live in them?
I think we all know the answer to this. The small town mythos needs to die. REAL America isn't in the small towns, it's in the cities. Where most of us live and work.

 

[fskimospy]

Man, if you think Sayre is bad, I'd stay away from Arkansas. Sayre is a kingdom compared to most towns in Arkansas.

Ha, when my wife and I were driving from New York to California during the pandemic we spent one night in Arkansas. We went to the local Walmart to get some food and I have never felt more attractive in my entire life.

 

[fskimospy]

This is one of the weird things to me with the conservative delusion about the cities. As I often tell people, I live in Portland, supposedly a hotbed of lawlessness and leftist violence. And yet one of my fav pasttimes is urban hiking. I'm one of those people who happen to love walking at a steady 4mph pace. There are trails all over the city (especially on my side of town), and I enjoy hiking them. I also walk just to get groceries at the store. And I've been doing this for years. I even walked downtown and watched the 2020 protests.
And the one thing that has never happened to me in all this walking about in this 'dangerous' city is anything that would make feel unsafe. In fact, if there's any time or place I might unsafe, it's from some entitled road raging prick while I'm driving (and I'm admittedly an aggressive driver).
I've also visited a lot of small towns. And my experience there has been far less glorious than this rosy we-all-love-our-neighbors bullshit. More like petty bickering, corrupt small town cops, and big-fish-in-a-small-town bullies. I recall once trying to help a friend set up a business in a small town on the WA coast, and the local official hostility to outside small business investment was just insane. They were either local money or major corporations or get out.
From my perspective, everything conservatives say about big cities and small towns are baldfaced lies that, for some bizarre reason, we choose to entertain. And we need to stop doing that.
Their beloved small town is a corrupt shit hole with no jobs where half the population lives in trailer parks even though the real estate market collapsed long ago. Even conservatives know this. It's why they all want to move to the suburbs.

More people should read this.

 

[Vic]

plese show us one racist word in those lyrics. seems like you are the one throwing labels and being a bigot. just sayin.

Who cares if it's racist when the song is a conservative anthem about they'll how kill if they don't like you in conservative America?
That doesn't require overt racism to be fucked up and wrong.
You won't find the liberal equivalent of this toxic violence that conservatives love so much. Quite the opposite, we want you in our cities. We come to our cities so we can set asides our petty differences and build shit. Which OMG we fucking do. And your brokeass small towns fucking don't.

 

[Fenixgoon]

And to sum up my case against small towns, if they're so freakin great, how come they're still small towns? FFS you can buy a nice house in like half of them for the price of a new car, so why aren't more people flocking to live in them?
I think we all know the answer to this. The small town mythos needs to die. REAL America isn't in the small towns, it's in the cities. Where most of us live and work.

it's almost like cities allow more people to live in a given unit area. which in turn, is great for things like economy, culture, arts, etc.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/US_population_map.png

 

[Vic]

it's almost like cities allow more people to live in a given unit area. which in turn, is great for things like economy, culture, arts, etc.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/US_population_map.png

Yes, the so-called 'socialist' cities are in fact the real engines of capitalism in America.
I can, for just the tiniest example, walk to at least a dozen food carts within a mile of my home, all of them owner-operated small businesses competing to provide excellent and amazingly diverse food options at a competitive price.
And in small towns, you get to choose between McDs and KFC, either of which are only there because of tax breaks.

 

[Moonbeam]

Here is a different perspective: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/small-town-economies-culture/543138/

My hope used to be that additive manufacturing might save small towns. I have also felt that it is large corporations that have killed rural life. I also think that had the country not allowed rural people to fall into misery we would not have the conservative madness we see today.

 

[pmv]

This is influenced by me spending a night in Sayre, Oklahoma about two years ago which was one of the goddamn saddest nights of my life.

My personal advice to everyone here. Never got to Sayre. It’s not that it was dangerous or anything bad happened to me, it was just so crushingly sad.

A typical small town, recently

 

[HomerJS]

Seems someone on JA's team starting to get it. Now once they include Jan 6 clips in the video this incident can be considered closed.

The clips removed from Jason Aldean's "Try That in a Small Town"

Aldean's controversial music video has been edited after the country music star received conservative praise for refusing to bow to the "woke mob."

www.newsweek.com

 

[nakedfrog]

This is one of the weird things to me with the conservative delusion about the cities. As I often tell people, I live in Portland, supposedly a hotbed of lawlessness and leftist violence. And yet one of my fav pasttimes is urban hiking. I'm one of those people who happen to love walking at a steady 4mph pace. There are trails all over the city (especially on my side of town), and I enjoy hiking them. I also walk just to get groceries at the store. And I've been doing this for years. I even walked downtown and watched the 2020 protests.
And the one thing that has never happened to me in all this walking about in this 'dangerous' city is anything that would make feel unsafe. In fact, if there's any time or place I might unsafe, it's from some entitled road raging prick while I'm driving (and I'm admittedly an aggressive driver).
I've also visited a lot of small towns. And my experience there has been far less glorious than this rosy we-all-love-our-neighbors bullshit. More like petty bickering, corrupt small town cops, and big-fish-in-a-small-town bullies. I recall once trying to help a friend set up a business in a small town on the WA coast, and the local official hostility to outside small business investment was just insane. They were either local money or major corporations or get out.
From my perspective, everything conservatives say about big cities and small towns are baldfaced lies that, for some bizarre reason, we choose to entertain. And we need to stop doing that.
Their beloved small town is a corrupt shit hole with no jobs where half the population lives in trailer parks even though the real estate market collapsed long ago. Even conservatives know this. It's why they all want to move to the suburbs.

I'm probably a better target than you are and still didn't have any concerns any of the times I walked (alone) down Burnside to and from concerts in the last year.
I have more concerns for my safety when I stop for gas in a rural town...

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yesterday at work, overheard some almost hilariously sterotypical looking white guy (dude looked like a chubby version of the Tiger King guy) telling a black woman how it was all wrong and people were just declaring it was racist because they didn't understand that "try that in a small town" was just about people protecting each other. As typical, he clearly didn't understand what the actual issue was how that was what white mobs used to claim they were doing when they decided to just murder black people simply for existing, and how that when coupled with the jackass deliberately choosing to do the music video at a courthouse with historical notoriety of being the site of such an example of it, is what makes it blatantly racist.

Yes, the so-called 'socialist' cities are in fact the real engines of capitalism in America.
I can, for just the tiniest example, walk to at least a dozen food carts within a mile of my home, all of them owner-operated small businesses competing to provide excellent and amazingly diverse food options at a competitive price.
And in small towns, you get to choose between McDs and KFC, either of which are only there because of tax breaks.

Or shitty local "mom and pop" places. Multiple friends were sexually harassed and assaulted when working at a steakhouse by the old mother of the owner of the place. Like she literally would fondle their dicks and butts. They clearly were made very uncomfortable by it and all of them ended up quitting there because of it. The other mom and pop places had mediocre food but people kept going to them just because. Although most of them ended up failing because people were going to them less and less because of the shitty service and food.

And to sum up my case against small towns, if they're so freakin great, how come they're still small towns? FFS you can buy a nice house in like half of them for the price of a new car, so why aren't more people flocking to live in them?
I think we all know the answer to this. The small town mythos needs to die. REAL America isn't in the small towns, it's in the cities. Where most of us live and work.

The small town I grew up in wouldn't ok building of new houses, other than when the wealthy people wanted to make a new subdivision for themselves. Otherwise you'd have to buy (or actually at that point have to have already owned or get gifted by family) land outside of town to build a new house.

All the small towns in the rural Midwest are dying. Some faster than others. The only thing keep many of them from dying at this point are immigrants (either legal or not).

Who cares if it's racist when the song is a conservative anthem about they'll how kill if they don't like you in conservative America?
That doesn't require overt racism to be fucked up and wrong.
You won't find the liberal equivalent of this toxic violence that conservatives love so much. Quite the opposite, we want you in our cities. We come to our cities so we can set asides our petty differences and build shit. Which OMG we fucking do. And your brokeass small towns fucking don't.

That's a great point. And then the people from rural America complain about how they get made fun of and portrayed as psychos after acting like this?

 

[APU_Fusion]

I think rural Americans actually hate woke because they always sleeping without all the noise or anything to do myself 😎

 

[soulcougher73]

Bo nailed modern country a while ago

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Here is a different perspective: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/small-town-economies-culture/543138/

My hope used to be that additive manufacturing might save small towns. I have also felt that it is large corporations that have killed rural life. I also think that had the country not allowed rural people to fall into misery we would not have the conservative madness we see today.

LOL yeah Mississippi was great before Walmart came in and ruined it

 

[A///]

LOL yeah Mississippi was great before Walmart came in and ruined it

Quite the shit hole now.

 

[HomerJS]

Country music once again celebrating lynching. Check out the lyrics.

 

[Stokely]

And to sum up my case against small towns, if they're so freakin great, how come they're still small towns? FFS you can buy a nice house in like half of them for the price of a new car, so why aren't more people flocking to live in them?
I think we all know the answer to this. The small town mythos needs to die. REAL America isn't in the small towns, it's in the cities. Where most of us live and work.

I'd love a rural lifestyle--landscape, peace and quiet, nature etc--I can do without most of the people. I need to seek out some place in Vermont or other state that has actual rural liberals. Here in FL it's a sea of rednecks outside the suburbs, which are only half full of them. Lots of terrified xenophobic Fox-watching boomers too. My band used to--thankfully, we've moved up--play a joint where people would pull up out back in airboats as it was right on the St John's River. I wouldn't have stepped foot in there if I was black for any amount of money, non-zero chance the gators would be eating fine that night.

Setting up for gigs and being on breaks if the jukebox plays is the only exposure I've had to the "tough guy country rap" that this douche seems to be doing. It's laughable, and looking at Jan 6 it kind of explains quite a bit.

I can live pretty much anywhere as I've worked remotely since covid and have no intention of ever going back to an office. Scoping out northern states and towns now on realtor.com and finding info on message boards, my youngest will be out of high school in a year. I want out of FL for a few different reasons, the fact that people love a woke warrior who wants to white-wash history is chief among them.

 

[akugami]

Ha, when my wife and I were driving from New York to California during the pandemic we spent one night in Arkansas. We went to the local Walmart to get some food and I have never felt more attractive in my entire life.

Yes. But did you feel less manly, being less muscled and less mustachioed than the women folk?

 

[darkswordsman17]

I'd love a rural lifestyle--landscape, peace and quiet, nature etc--I can do without most of the people. I need to seek out some place in Vermont or other state that has actual rural liberals. Here in FL it's a sea of rednecks outside the suburbs, which are only half full of them. Lots of terrified xenophobic Fox-watching boomers too. My band used to--thankfully, we've moved up--play a joint where people would pull up out back in airboats as it was right on the St John's River. I wouldn't have stepped foot in there if I was black for any amount of money, non-zero chance the gators would be eating fine that night.

Setting up for gigs and being on breaks if the jukebox plays is the only exposure I've had to the "tough guy country rap" that this douche seems to be doing. It's laughable, and looking at Jan 6 it kind of explains quite a bit.

I can live pretty much anywhere as I've worked remotely since covid and have no intention of ever going back to an office. Scoping out northern states and towns now on realtor.com and finding info on message boards, my youngest will be out of high school in a year. I want out of FL for a few different reasons, the fact that people love a woke warrior who wants to white-wash history is chief among them.

Unfortunately even in very liberal states most of the rural places have an abundance of right wing nut jobs. Several years back there was a story about a small rural town in the Northeast (forget which state exactly but I think it was maybe Maine or Vermont, considered pretty liberal) where a right wing guy bought land and setup a shooting range, and then started a right wing nut job training program, bringing in these talk tough chickenshit clowns that desperately want to play out a war but are too chickenshit to actually sign up for the military (or more likely were kicked out because of being fucking psychos). Lots of these people have been moving north and especially rural areas. There was a concerted effort by white supremacists to move to like Idaho and Montana and essentially take over towns. That basically already happened in like the early 2000s, and there's been some evidence there's similar happening elsewhere. Its not always white supremacist groups, but its a mix of all the insane modern right wing ideological groups.

 

[Linux23]

At least students will be taught black people learned the useful skill of pain endurance.

Pain Management and 400 years of Unpaid Internship right?

 

[Stokely]

Unfortunately even in very liberal states most of the rural places have an abundance of right wing nut jobs. Several years back there was a story about a small rural town in the Northeast (forget which state exactly but I think it was maybe Maine or Vermont, considered pretty liberal) where a right wing guy bought land and setup a shooting range, and then started a right wing nut job training program, bringing in these talk tough chickenshit clowns that desperately want to play out a war but are too chickenshit to actually sign up for the military (or more likely were kicked out because of being fucking psychos). Lots of these people have been moving north and especially rural areas. There was a concerted effort by white supremacists to move to like Idaho and Montana and essentially take over towns. That basically already happened in like the early 2000s, and there's been some evidence there's similar happening elsewhere. Its not always white supremacist groups, but its a mix of all the insane modern right wing ideological groups.

Yeah I know. It would be ironic if I were to move out of my purple county in FL and moved some some blue state only to be surrounded by mouthbreather rednecks.