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HomerJS

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That is it in a nutshell. The news cycle creates a false impression.
I live in the sticks and mostly it is idyllic, but I remember one meth lab that blew up maybe 300 yards from the house back in the meth lab heyday, and another about 500 yards away that they shut down the street for a while as they cleaned it up.
Domestic violence visits all zip codes. Same goes for drug abuse and OD's.
There was a double murder about a mile away by a broken ex-con who was never going to make it outside prison. He killed the neighbors for some perceived slight.
This guy killed his kids a few miles away, after disappearing his wife.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Susan_Powell
Red states have the highest crime rates. That doesn't get coverage because of Tourette's like response of Chicago. Meanwhile guess why NYC isn't mentioned in the context of rampant crime? NYC is one of the safest big cities in the world per capita.

Seems lies and demagoguing works.
 

MrSquished

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I have no interest in zoning small towns out of existence. I am all for allowing people to provide housing in places where people need and want to live, and this tends to be near cities. Nobody is going to invade the shithole small towns in racist bigoted backwards ass parts of the country to build high rises there.

I also have no problem if you like living in a small town. The issue is, that's where the worst people in the country live, they want to oppress anyone else that doesn't look or act like them, take from the government, pretend to be independent from the government, and then try to fuck everyone else over that is not in a small town.

there was a great article in the NYC this week about a person's story from leaving a small town. how it was so repressive if you didn't fit the standard jock archetype for boys, or cheerleading archetype for girls, if you thought differently at all and did not conform you were looked down on. Forget if you were gay or had any alternative lifestyle. They told their story of coming to a city and finally feeling anonymity and just being let alone to exist. There are countless stories like this.

Now I'm not saying everyone has to leave a small town to find themselves, I'm just asking the small town conservative people to stop being pieces of shit and dragging this country down. But please, stay the fuck out there if you want to by all means never come near us big city liberal elitists, who have been the main drivers of bringing resources and dollars to your rural areas for many decades now. We were all like, here, let's help lift you up. And now most of them have said fuck you to decency, morality and just being sane folk. So at this point I'm like wtf, why waste resources on these clowns? Let's start keeping that money in blue states and blue cities, these small-town red folk are literally trying to destroy democracy and our country.
 
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HomerJS

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While it is true that cities do not NECESSARILY have a higher per capita crime rate in general the per capita crime rate is lower in smaller areas than in larger ones.


This data is a bit old but the trend has held up for a long time.
Even per capita doesn't necessarily account for density. Jacksonville FL has a per capita gun death rate double that of NYC yet NYC is far denser. Jacksonville has been red for many years that recently elected a Democratic mayor.

Alaska population is very sparse yet has a high per capita crime rate.

BTW - it is true the numbers from Chicago are bad.

For people like me I'm safer in NYC then in the town where Ahmed Arbury was murdered.
 
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Even per capita doesn't necessarily account for density. Jacksonville FL has a per capita gun death rate double that of NYC yet NYC is far denser. Jacksonville has been red for many years that recently elected a Democratic mayor.

Alaska population is very sparse yet has a high per capita crime rate.

BTW - it is true the numbers from Chicago are bad.

For people like me I'm safer in NYC then in the town where Ahmed Arbury was murdered.
Yes, these are by necessity gross generalizations and I’m sure there are zillions of exceptions. I think the central idea is correct though. It’s also not exactly the most shocking revelation. More in person interactions per day is more opportunities for crime.
 
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MrSquished

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99.9% of small towns are awesome. My town as over 1M people, a lot of them from CA unfortunately. 😕

if they are so awesome and y'all are so happy, why do you consistently vote for really shitty fucked up GQP politicians? And why do y'all love to oppress the shit out of anything not white and christian? stop trying to keep the rest of decent America like the regressive way you want your small towns to look
 

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What do you base that on and awesome for whom?
I mean he clearly made it up. There are plenty of very nice small towns in America but also many of the poorest, saddest, most destitute places you will find in the entire country are small towns.

For example: basically all of West Virginia.
 

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This is how a lot of people feel about small towns. And many were not lucky enough to escape, they are stuck in a terrible situation. A great article. And we all know if small towns are so great, why the fuck is Trump the GQP leading candidate, now for a THIRD time. After all this shit? That right there shows us that there is a sickness in small towns.


Jason Aldean? Please spare me the small-town nostalgia.​

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By Brian Broome
Contributing columnist

I’m not here to talk about Jason Aldean’s country song “Try That in a Small Town.” I’m not a fan. I’m just here to pat you on the back if you’re one of the many Americans, like me, who ran from small-town life and never looked back.

I’m from a small town in Ohio. I’ve blocked out many of my memories of the place. I spent my childhood there in the 1970s and 1980s, and I do remember playing outside and being surrounded by friends when I was a child. I remember the summers when we got sprayed with the garden hose and the winters full of snowball fights and forts.

But none of that makes up for what the place really was. All the Black people lived on one side of town, and all the White people lived on the other. Our churches were separate. We went to school together, but it was at school that I was called or heard the n-word from White students on a weekly basis. The racism of my small town was naked and powerful; seething hatreds were baked into its soil. And when all the steel jobs disappeared, leaving many on welfare, in poverty or desperate, those hatreds deepened and the n-word flew more freely than ever.


As I got older and realized that I was gay, my small town became for me a coffin lined with razor blades. But it wasn’t just my sexuality that made it uncomfortable. I was different. I thought differently. I began to question the things I had been taught, and I found no one in my hometown who offered good answers. I was just told to be quiet: by my teachers, by my friends, by my church and even by my parents. And then the smothering feeling set in, the wondering whether there was more to life than what I was being shown. And I knew I had to escape. I wanted to meet different kinds of people, I wanted different experiences, I wanted to learn new things, and none of that was going to happen in a small town in northern Ohio. I couldn’t wait to leave.

My story isn’t unusual. There are many like me in this country. People who could not wait to put their small hometowns in the rearview mirror because they couldn’t or wouldn’t fall in line. People who dreaded the thought of going back to them on holidays because, at the moment your feet land on the ground where you were raised, the memories come flooding back. You dread the moment when you run into someone from high school who wants to talk about how great it was. But you have nothing to add to this conversation because you don’t remember the glory days in quite the same way. And you dread the assumption that many will make that you somehow think you’re a big shot simply because you ran for your life.

You were the “weird girl” who had an opinion and had no interest in being a cheerleader. You were the boy who couldn’t play sports. You were the one who thought just a little too much outside the box. I see you. You were different. For you, these places represent the mind-set and mores you were so keen to put behind you.

You can see our national mythology around small towns shot through our culture. It is everywhere, in every Hallmark movie where the successful, young city woman returns to her hometown because her urban life is an empty one full of loneliness and streetlights. In this version, the real meaning of life comes from being surrounded by men in boots and women in housedresses. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I have had awful things happen to me in the city. But nothing more awful than things that have happened to me in the country. And we need to start shedding this idea that purity and goodness reside only in the places with one stoplight.
So, all you weirdos out there who escaped your small town? I see you. I know what you went through. And I hope you have found a place where you feel at home and comfortable enough to be yourself. You were never a weirdo. There was never anything wrong with you. You are not depraved. Sometimes we’re just born where we don’t belong. And someone creating an idyllic and violent fantasy of “community” of the place you had to leave behind doesn’t change that one bit.
 

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The issue is, that's where the worst people in the country live, they want to oppress anyone else that doesn't look or act like them, take from the government, pretend to be independent from the government, and then try to fuck everyone else over that is not in a small town.
you can fuck right off with your gigantic generalizations.
 
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What do you base that on and awesome for whom?
I mean he clearly made it up. There are plenty of very nice small towns in America but also many of the poorest, saddest, most destitute places you will find in the entire country are small towns.

For example: basically all of West Virginia.
Awesome for most folks and nothing is made up.

Also money is not akin to happiness. I remember reading about a man who jumped from his penthouse apartment in NYC despite having $160 million dollars. There was no reason or explanation.

Sure everyone wants to win the lottery but sometimes too much money in the wrong hands leads to misfortune.
 

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Awesome for most folks and nothing is made up.

Also money is not akin to happiness. I remember reading about a man who jumped from his penthouse apartment in NYC despite having $160 million dollars. There was no reason or explanation.

Sure everyone wants to win the lottery but sometimes too much money in the wrong hands leads to misfortune.
Do people in West Virginia strike you as particularly happy?
 

HomerJS

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Awesome for most folks and nothing is made up.

Also money is not akin to happiness. I remember reading about a man who jumped from his penthouse apartment in NYC despite having $160 million dollars. There was no reason or explanation.

Sure everyone wants to win the lottery but sometimes too much money in the wrong hands leads to misfortune.
Site your source for that 99.9%. Otherwise, you are once again lying and that wouldn't surprise me.
 
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you can fuck right off with your gigantic generalizations.
It's not a generalization it's the facts look at the electoral maps. Where are the most votes for Trump coming from demographically by population centers? the majority of small towns vote trump.

I didn't say small towns are hopeless at all, there are great ones. I'm just stating a fact, because most people saying small towns are the best for any reason are usually the regressive ones, So I'm speaking to them.

Do you or do you not deny that Trump, in two elections now, and leading as the candidate for the GQP for a third election, When it comes to the small towns he gets the majority of their votes vs a blue candidate. I'm not saying every small town and I'm not saying there aren't good people in those towns who are not voting for somebody so horrific, but are decent folks. but can you deny that the majority of small towns the majority of voters vote for Trump. Yes or no?

The fact is it's yes. And we need to understand this phenomena of a high per capita ratio of people trying to destroy all that's good. We can't defeat the enemy if we don't understand them
 

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It's not a generalization it's the facts look at the electoral maps. Where are the most votes for Trump coming from demographically by population centers? the majority of small towns vote trump.

I didn't say small towns are hopeless at all, there are great ones. I'm just stating a fact, because most people saying small towns are the best for any reason are usually the regressive ones, So I'm speaking to them.

Do you or do you not deny that Trump, in two elections now, and leading as the candidate for the GQP for a third election, When it comes to the small towns he gets the majority of their votes vs a blue candidate. I'm not saying every small town and I'm not saying there aren't good people in those towns who are not voting for somebody so horrific, but are decent folks. but can you deny that the majority of small towns the majority of voters vote for Trump. Yes or no?

The fact is it's yes. And we need to understand this phenomena of a high per capita ratio of people trying to destroy all that's good. We can't defeat the enemy if we don't understand them
Different strokes for different folks.

New York is where some like to stay, they get allergic smelling hay, they really enjoy a penthouse view, they want Park Avenue.

Others enjoy fresh air, low pollution and few annoying people. Plus the chores outdoors are all they need.

You are obviously a city slicker.
 

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Site your source for that 99.9%. Otherwise, you are once again lying and that wouldn't surprise me.
You don't get out much I assume. You should visit a small town and enjoy the refreshing hospitality and not worry if someone is going to mug you 10 feet from your door step.

And yes I was obviously kidding. My small town of 1M is one of the largest in Texas. But the burbs are smallish.
 

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It's not a generalization it's the facts look at the electoral maps. Where are the most votes for Trump coming from demographically by population centers? the majority of small towns vote trump.

I didn't say small towns are hopeless at all, there are great ones. I'm just stating a fact, because most people saying small towns are the best for any reason are usually the regressive ones, So I'm speaking to them.

Do you or do you not deny that Trump, in two elections now, and leading as the candidate for the GQP for a third election, When it comes to the small towns he gets the majority of their votes vs a blue candidate. I'm not saying every small town and I'm not saying there aren't good people in those towns who are not voting for somebody so horrific, but are decent folks. but can you deny that the majority of small towns the majority of voters vote for Trump. Yes or no?

The fact is it's yes. And we need to understand this phenomena of a high per capita ratio of people trying to destroy all that's good. We can't defeat the enemy if we don't understand them
your wedge driving does fuck-all to address anything. Not a single productive thing. I am progressive and you pissed me off, how is that helping with anyone else?
 
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Never been there but they tell me it's nice. Life's been good to me so far.
According to this study the residents of West Virginia are the least happy people in the entire United States. Rounding out the bottom are other states mostly comprised of smaller towns.


The least happy states are Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Arkansas -- and the state with the most unhappy residents is West Virginia, according to the study.

While different studies use different methodology so things can change some, West Virginia and the small town south consistently come in at the bottom. Seems like they don't like small towns that much!