Japan's whaling Fleet

[kleinwl]

Japan whaling Association


Taken from Aljazeria.net
"The run-up to the Ulsan meeting, scheduled for 20 June, has been marked by increasingly acrimonious debate between Japan and governments that oppose whaling, particularly New Zealand and Australia.

Australian Environment Minister Ian Campbell has been amongst the most vociferous opponents of Japan's plans to more than double its Antarctic catch of minke whales to 945, as well as take 50 humpback and 50 fin whales.

Japan claims it needs to harpoon the whales and dissect them to determine emigration patterns as well as data on their feeding and breeding habits. It insists that subsequently serving the whale meat at restaurants and for school lunches is merely the best way to dispose of the carcass.

And while scientific hunts are permitted under the IWC's regulations, the sale of around 2000 tonnes of meat a year earns more than $54 million. The profits are invested back into the whaling fleet."


Is it really ethical for Japan to hunt engangered humpback whales under the guise of research? If Japan is interested in hunting whales they should just be honest about it (like piracy in the straits).

 

[ahurtt]

I think it is complete and utter BULL$HIT! Exactly what is it they are trying to discern about the breeding habbits and feeding habbits of these whales that is not already well documented?! And how the hell do you need to disect a whale to discern its emigration patterns? Don't you just tag them and then track them if you want to know that? It's crap and I can't believe they think for one second that people can't see through their bull$hit excuse. In fact it's down right insulting! Japanese must think the rest of the world is stupid. The only feeding habbits it has anything to do with are their own. They'll claim to spend millions of yen on some kind of scientific research project and in the end publish something that when people read they will go. .. "well, DUHHHH!"

 

[CaptnKirk]

The Japanese have found that the migration path of whales passes through
the digestive tract & on out the colon - of the people who live and eat in Japan.

 

[sandorski]

I don't mind people eating Whales as long as there's plenty available, but ya, they should come clean about their intentions.

 

[Czar]

these whales are not really endangered anymore

 

[filterxg]

Originally posted by: Czar
these whales are not really endangered anymore

Most of the world says they are still endagered. The exceptions are Japan and Norway, which have an obvious conflict of interest.

If you could convince me they weren't endangered then I'd have no problem allowing a highly regulated industry.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: filterxg

Originally posted by: Czar
these whales are not really endangered anymore

Most of the world says they are still endagered. The exceptions are Japan and Norway, which have an obvious conflict of interest.

If you could convince me they weren't endangered then I'd have no problem allowing a highly regulated industry.

well, add iceland to that list

http://www.answers.com/topic/whaling
"Other species on the other hand, in particular the Minke Whale, have never been considered endangered and still other species have shown signs of recovery. It is these species of whales that whalers wish to hunt commercially, believing that with modern techniques a hunt of these species could be sustained without damage to the ecosystem."

 

[Czar]

and yes, on that link there is a table which lists what whale speacies are endangered

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Czar
these whales are not really endangered anymore

There are only a couple hundred Western Pacific gray whales left. 11 thousand blue whales. 7800 bowhead whales. 10 thousand humpback whales. Less than a thousand northern right whales. Three thousand southern right whales.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: Czar
these whales are not really endangered anymore

There are only a couple hundred Western Pacific gray whales left. 11 thousand blue whales. 7800 bowhead whales. 10 thousand humpback whales. Less than a thousand northern right whales. Three thousand southern right whales.

check those who they are going to hunt and check the table on the link i provided, and check those who they are going to hunt against the list you provided

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Odd that the only 'scientists' who need to kill these whales to study their migratory, feeding and breeding behavior are Japanese. Last time I checked, studying behavior requires a live organism... Fvcking morons.

Save the whales, nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki again.

 

[Zebo]

LOL they're researching taste

Well at least they kill them outright instead of chopping sharks dorsil fin like they love to do and tossing him back to die from stavation.

 

[0roo0roo]

meh yea i find the whole sharkfin soup and other asian bullsh*t where they slaughter animals for a tiny chunk of meat and toss the rest far more distasteful. i like sharkfin soup and all, but theres fake sharkfin these days.

 

[bayou]

Odd that the only 'scientists' who need to kill these whales to study their migratory, feeding and breeding behavior are Japanese. Last time I checked, studying behavior requires a live organism... Fvcking morons.

Yep, that's a bunch of Japanese BS!!!:|

Save the whales, nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki again.

:thumbsup:

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: bayou

Odd that the only 'scientists' who need to kill these whales to study their migratory, feeding and breeding behavior are Japanese. Last time I checked, studying behavior requires a live organism... Fvcking morons.

Yep, that's a bunch of Japanese BS!!!:|

Save the whales, nuke Hiroshima & Nagasaki again.

:thumbsup:

seriously... ban?

 

[aidanjm]

:| @ Japanese whaling

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
:| @ Japanese whaling

read the thread

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: aidanjm
:| @ Japanese whaling

read the thread

um, I did. then I expressed my opinion.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: aidanjm
:| @ Japanese whaling

read the thread

um, I did. then I expressed my opinion.

is it wrong to hunt minke whales?

 

[piasabird]

When was Japan Ethical?

 

[kleinwl]

Czar,

Even if there is enough Minke whales, Japan is looking to take 50 humpback and 50 Fin whales. The Fin whale is endangered... and the humpback is vunernable (according to your link). This is even worse than the doubling of the Minke whale take.

I guess that Japan just wants to research how the other whales will taste (who knows? maybe they will replace shark fin as a traditional dish?).

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: kleinwl
Czar,

Even if there is enough Minke whales, Japan is looking to take 50 humpback and 50 Fin whales. The Fin whale is endangered... and the humpback is vunernable (according to your link). This is even worse than the doubling of the Minke whale take.

I guess that Japan just wants to research how the other whales will taste (who knows? maybe they will replace shark fin as a traditional dish?).

that is true, thats something they shouldnt do at that scale. I think also this is also a political statement to the IWC which is no longer is about regulating whaling but to ban all whaling.

apart from what came in that article hunting whales allows scientists also to evaluate the impact whales have on other fishing stocks, as you know fishing stocks all over the world have been in decline because of overfishing.

 

[NeoV]

Fin whales are absolutely endangered

Their reasons for increasing their kill are a bunch of BS, but the world lets them get away with it..

 

[RabidMongoose]

I was dragged on to some whale watching trip and I saw some Minke, Humpback, and Fin whales. The researchers there said that the Minke whale wasn't whaled in the early whaling days because of it's relatively small size. Therefore there are a good number of Minke whales out around the world today.

Countries like Japan, Iceland, Norway, and whoever else should stop hunting endangered or closely endangered whales though. I would also imagine that even Minke whaling could hurt other types of whales, too.

Just more evidence that all countries are the same. It's kind of interesting to see some of these countries and people defend these practices.

I also like the lies of 'scientific research' from Japan and Iceland. Does Norway talk about this, too?

 

[Zebo]

So is it a big deal if we make those wales go extinct? I would'nt think so. Like dodo bird.. who cares?