Japan's Maglev Train Sets Speed Record: 361MPH *PIC*

DanTMWTMP

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wow...


just wondering, is the acela ..the US bullet train that goes from boston to NY (? or was is DC?) successful? because i heard it's going to be scrapped if it isn't



I mean, it'll be great to have trains being among the main forms of transportation (well i take the train often..the pacific surfliner line..from SD to LA)


having a bullet train accross US will be great, and will bring the romantism of trains back.....you know when you wave your loved ones good bye, relaxing as you watch the scenery rush passed you...it'll be great....

just that not many people take trains, and US is closing a bunch of lines, and thinking about commercializing old train lines :(
 

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I was in Japan on a train doing around 245 KM (they have speedometers in the cafe carriage). It didn't seem so fast from the inside but 361 MPH must seem fast. Can you imagine how fantastically spectacular a train derailment would be on that thing? I hope they keep people from dumping crap on the track!
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I was in Japan on a train doing around 245 KM (they have speedometers in the cafe carriage). It didn't seem so fast from the inside but 361 MPH must seem fast. Can you imagine how fantastically spectacular a train derailment would be on that thing? I hope they keep people from dumping crap on the track!

You must mean like in India, literally. The bathrooms are just a hole in the floor in most trains.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
wow...


just wondering, is the acela ..the US bullet train that goes from boston to NY (? or was is DC?) successful? because i heard it's going to be scrapped if it isn't



I mean, it'll be great to have trains being among the main forms of transportation (well i take the train often..the pacific surfliner line..from SD to LA)


having a bullet train accross US will be great, and will bring the romantism of trains back.....you know when you wave your loved ones good bye, relaxing as you watch the scenery rush passed you...it'll be great....

just that not many people take trains, and US is closing a bunch of lines, and thinking about commercializing old train lines :(

Acela goes DC-PA-NY-BO. And it's too damn expensive.

 

Danman

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I was in Japan on a train doing around 245 KM (they have speedometers in the cafe carriage). It didn't seem so fast from the inside but 361 MPH must seem fast. Can you imagine how fantastically spectacular a train derailment would be on that thing? I hope they keep people from dumping crap on the track!

You must mean like in India, literally. The bathrooms are just a hole in the floor in most trains.

:Q
 

thereds

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I was in Japan on a train doing around 245 KM (they have speedometers in the cafe carriage). It didn't seem so fast from the inside but 361 MPH must seem fast. Can you imagine how fantastically spectacular a train derailment would be on that thing? I hope they keep people from dumping crap on the track!

You must mean like in India, literally. The bathrooms are just a hole in the floor in most trains.

Yup, thats just the way it is...unless you're in some high class train (I think there's only one)

You can see the piss coming out of one of the trains where the bathrooms are if you're staning on the platform. :)
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I was in Japan on a train doing around 245 KM (they have speedometers in the cafe carriage). It didn't seem so fast from the inside but 361 MPH must seem fast. Can you imagine how fantastically spectacular a train derailment would be on that thing? I hope they keep people from dumping crap on the track!

You must mean like in India, literally. The bathrooms are just a hole in the floor in most trains.
Hehe actually I meant more along the lines of making sure saboteurs don't put crap on the track to derail the train. Crap as in objects, not including feces :)

 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I was in Japan on a train doing around 245 KM (they have speedometers in the cafe carriage). It didn't seem so fast from the inside but 361 MPH must seem fast. Can you imagine how fantastically spectacular a train derailment would be on that thing? I hope they keep people from dumping crap on the track!

You must mean like in India, literally. The bathrooms are just a hole in the floor in most trains.
Hehe actually I meant more along the lines of making sure saboteurs don't put crap on the track to derail the train. Crap as in objects, not including feces :)

ROFLMAO ohhh that's what u meant!!! AHAHA i really thought feces....and left it as that..until you clarified it just now :Q
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
wow...


just wondering, is the acela ..the US bullet train that goes from boston to NY (? or was is DC?) successful? because i heard it's going to be scrapped if it isn't



I mean, it'll be great to have trains being among the main forms of transportation (well i take the train often..the pacific surfliner line..from SD to LA)


having a bullet train accross US will be great, and will bring the romantism of trains back.....you know when you wave your loved ones good bye, relaxing as you watch the scenery rush passed you...it'll be great....

just that not many people take trains, and US is closing a bunch of lines, and thinking about commercializing old train lines :(

Acela goes DC-PA-NY-BO. And it's too damn expensive.

And its practically no faster than the express train.

I used to take bullet trains in Japan. It is unbelievable when you pass one going the opposite direction. Those trains are really long and they pass in just seconds.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I was in Japan on a train doing around 245 KM (they have speedometers in the cafe carriage). It didn't seem so fast from the inside but 361 MPH must seem fast. Can you imagine how fantastically spectacular a train derailment would be on that thing? I hope they keep people from dumping crap on the track!


they are engineered in a way that if there is a derailment the train doesn't tip over

high speed train safety



I've used the French TGV and the Eurostar a couple of times. You really don't feel it when it's doing 300 km/h. There are parts of the highspeed railnetwork that are next to a highway and then you realize how badadd fast you are going. Cars doing 120 km/h seem to be standing still
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: freegeeks
cool

the old record was 320 mph



TGV speed record

Actually, according to the newspaper here the old record was 360MPH last year by the same train.


yeah probably

I just noticed that my link was from a 1990 speed record - there must have been something faster in the last 13 years


 

mooojojojo

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Originally posted by: NightRaven
Im guessing that the sipping of martinis on that train is out of the question...

Actually I think there's no problem with sipping martinis on a maglev train. Since there's no contact with anything the ride is silky smooth. Except for the acceleration and deceleration phases which can be (and perhaps are) spaced across long time (like 5-10minutes?). Am I right? :)
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: NightRaven
Im guessing that the sipping of martinis on that train is out of the question...

Actually I think there's no problem with sipping martinis on a maglev train. Since there's no contact with anything the ride is silky smooth. Except for the acceleration and deceleration phases which can be (and perhaps are) spaced across long time (like 5-10minutes?). Am I right? :)

yup, if u can sip on a plane going even faster, martinis fine on that train:)
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: NightRaven
Im guessing that the sipping of martinis on that train is out of the question...

Actually I think there's no problem with sipping martinis on a maglev train. Since there's no contact with anything the ride is silky smooth. Except for the acceleration and deceleration phases which can be (and perhaps are) spaced across long time (like 5-10minutes?). Am I right? :)

I am glad someone pointed that out....

The discovery channel recently had a program on "____engineering" that disccused a transatlantic maglev trai nthat would travel in a floating tube across the atlantic....

1) The entire tube would have to be a vacum to do away with wind reistance and sonic boom.....THE ENTIRE TUBE FROM HERE TO EUROPE!
2) The train would result in having a pressurized cabin(just like planes..nothing outrageous...)
2) The velocity required to make the system feasible would 5000mph....
3) It would HAVE to be a MAGlev(obvious choice)
4) Quick acceleration would kill everyone on board
5) The train would have to ACCLERATE gradually for a few hundred MILES as to not create discomfort or death. The same would apply for decelleration
6) Emergency stops would NOT be an option
7) Any sort of track problems etc would kill EVERYONE on board and reduce the train to dust in much less than a second.
8) The system would have to be automatically fire-controlled.
9) Finally, the system...and this one is hard to believe ...would have to withstand submarine collisions..:confused:...The tube(s) will remain floating, so steel cables would adjust for an impact..yeah right...
 

mooojojojo

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: NightRaven
Im guessing that the sipping of martinis on that train is out of the question...
Actually I think there's no problem with sipping martinis on a maglev train. Since there's no contact with anything the ride is silky smooth. Except for the acceleration and deceleration phases which can be (and perhaps are) spaced across long time (like 5-10minutes?). Am I right? :)
yup, if u can sip on a plane going even faster, martinis fine on that train:)
Exactly. I don't think it's a question of speed though. :) You can be going 5000kph and if the ride is smooth you can still do whatever you want. If you don't have a window you might not even know you're moving. Actually the train is better than a plane in this respect since there are no air-pockets (is that' what they're called?), turbulence or descends and ascends.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: NightRaven
Im guessing that the sipping of martinis on that train is out of the question...
Actually I think there's no problem with sipping martinis on a maglev train. Since there's no contact with anything the ride is silky smooth. Except for the acceleration and deceleration phases which can be (and perhaps are) spaced across long time (like 5-10minutes?). Am I right? :)
yup, if u can sip on a plane going even faster, martinis fine on that train:)
Exactly. I don't think it's a question of speed though. :) You can be going 5000kph and if the ride is smooth you can still do whatever you want. If you don't have a window you might not even know you're moving. Actually the train is better than a plane in this respect since there are no air-pockets (is that' what they're called?), turbulence or descends and ascends.


yea, from what i've heard u have to actually look at the mach meter to know you've gone supersonic in the concord. ah well, i'm not going to be able to confirm that one now...
 

johnjbruin

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the video link on the same page is cool. in the video you actally see at one point how fast 581kmph really is.
 

mooojojojo

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: NightRaven
Im guessing that the sipping of martinis on that train is out of the question...
Actually I think there's no problem with sipping martinis on a maglev train. Since there's no contact with anything the ride is silky smooth. Except for the acceleration and deceleration phases which can be (and perhaps are) spaced across long time (like 5-10minutes?). Am I right? :)
I am glad someone pointed that out....

The discovery channel recently had a program on "____engineering" that disccused a transatlantic maglev trai nthat would travel in a floating tube across the atlantic....

1) The entire tube would have to be a vacum to do away with wind reistance and sonic boom.....THE ENTIRE TUBE FROM HERE TO EUROPE!
2) The train would result in having a pressurized cabin(just like planes..nothing outrageous...)
2) The velocity required to make the system feasible would 5000mph....
3) It would HAVE to be a MAGlev(obvious choice)
4) Quick acceleration would kill everyone on board
5) The train would have to ACCLERATE gradually for a few hundred MILES as to not create discomfort or death. The same would apply for decelleration
6) Emergency stops would NOT be an option
7) Any sort of track problems etc would kill EVERYONE on board and reduce the train to dust in much less than a second.
8) The system would have to be automatically fire-controlled.
9) Finally, the system...and this one is hard to believe ...would have to withstand submarine collisions..:confused:...The tube(s) will remain floating, so steel cables would adjust for an impact..yeah right...
Oh I saw that feature. It was bordering in science fiction actually :) - not in the technical aspects (it's quite possible to build it I guess) but looked from financial point of view. And the time it's going to take to build. It's just not feasible. Imagine the prices for tickets if they are hoping to have a return of investment for that one.

Some of the things I found ridiculous:
1. The collision scenario they showed - the submarine actually didn't collide head on - it decelerated and just scratched the tunnel. That's not what I call crash testing. :)
2. A hole in the tunnel - I don't think those 'door's they had can close so fast. Perhaps 2-3 trains will be destroyed (remember - that's not a one train tunnel - it will be filled with trains spaced out by say 5 minutes?) - that's a lot of victims. And then imagine how much money and time it's going to take to fix it.
3. Attached to the ocean bottom? What about the places where it's 2km deep? I loved how the mockups they showed were for like a 50m deep bottom. :)
 

silverpig

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That maglev is pretty sweet. If only they got it going here a bit better. 2 hrs to Calgary, 1 hr to seattle...
 

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FWIW- I took the TGV from Paris to Bueane a few years ago. Seems like a normal (tho quite smooth) train ride until you look outside and the scenery is going by so quickly that your brain just goes "Nope. That's BS. I refuse to acknowlege that." :p