Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Originally posted by: Justin218
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Justin218
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
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Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Justin218
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
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Im guessing Quoted for truth.
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Your statement is quite true, however 'any decently made' sword will change its shape due to the impact even though a bullet is made by a mellow lead.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Your statement is quite true, however 'any decently made' sword will change its shape due to the impact even though a bullet is made by a mellow lead.
I said "decently made" which implies a good steel. Good steel wont even flinch to a bullet. A prime example is a gun barrel. Its simple 5140 (or 4150) steel. Its not the bullets that burn out barrels, its the heat from the powder.
So, gun barrels (steel) hold up to thousands of rounds. Why shouldnt a good sword (steel) hold up to one.
Now, those cheap 100 dollar display models... Your milage may vary there, because I'm sure they use a softer steel or a more brittle steel. Essentially, they dont use the RIGHT steel.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Your statement is quite true, however 'any decently made' sword will change its shape due to the impact even though a bullet is made by a mellow lead.
I said "decently made" which implies a good steel. Good steel wont even flinch to a bullet. A prime example is a gun barrel. Its simple 5140 (or 4150) steel. Its not the bullets that burn out barrels, its the heat from the powder.
So, gun barrels (steel) hold up to thousands of rounds. Why shouldnt a good sword (steel) hold up to one.
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Your statement is quite true, however 'any decently made' sword will change its shape due to the impact even though a bullet is made by a mellow lead.
I said "decently made" which implies a good steel. Good steel wont even flinch to a bullet. A prime example is a gun barrel. Its simple 5140 (or 4150) steel. Its not the bullets that burn out barrels, its the heat from the powder.
So, gun barrels (steel) hold up to thousands of rounds. Why shouldnt a good sword (steel) hold up to one.
You're saying that if you were to shoot at a gun barrel dead on, it could 'hold up to thousands of rounds' just fine?
Originally posted by: BaboonGuy
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
true, IF it was a regular bullet. i speak japanese, in the opening parts, they explain the bullet is special made: titanium casing with a diamond core.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
I said "decently made" which implies a good steel. Good steel wont even flinch to a bullet. A prime example is a gun barrel. Its simple 5140 (or 4150) steel. Its not the bullets that burn out barrels, its the heat from the powder.
So, gun barrels (steel) hold up to thousands of rounds. Why shouldnt a good sword (steel) hold up to one.
Now, those cheap 100 dollar display models... Your milage may vary there, because I'm sure they use a softer steel or a more brittle steel. Essentially, they dont use the RIGHT steel.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Your statement is quite true, however 'any decently made' sword will change its shape due to the impact even though a bullet is made by a mellow lead.
I said "decently made" which implies a good steel. Good steel wont even flinch to a bullet. A prime example is a gun barrel. Its simple 5140 (or 4150) steel. Its not the bullets that burn out barrels, its the heat from the powder.
So, gun barrels (steel) hold up to thousands of rounds. Why shouldnt a good sword (steel) hold up to one.
You're saying that if you were to shoot at a gun barrel dead on, it could 'hold up to thousands of rounds' just fine?
Ummm, ever hear of rifling? You DO know what rifling does right? Rifling actually does EXACTLY what that sword does. It cuts into the bullet to give it spin. So yes, gun barrels are shot into every day thousands of times with no adverse affect.
Look, its a cool video, and shows the quality of good steel, but its certainly nothing to get all googly eyed about.
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
I said "decently made" which implies a good steel. Good steel wont even flinch to a bullet. A prime example is a gun barrel. Its simple 5140 (or 4150) steel. Its not the bullets that burn out barrels, its the heat from the powder.
So, gun barrels (steel) hold up to thousands of rounds. Why shouldnt a good sword (steel) hold up to one.
Now, those cheap 100 dollar display models... Your milage may vary there, because I'm sure they use a softer steel or a more brittle steel. Essentially, they dont use the RIGHT steel.
Also, it's not just about the gun powder. You can shoot a machine gun hundreds and thousands times more (without changing the barrel) if you used a blank bullet. It's because the bullet generates much heat passing through the barrel. Well, that was my experience from shooting M60 with blank bullets and real bullets(As I was a Former SAW, granade launcher(Don't know the correct term in English), Special Forces squad leader)
Anyway, the issue here is the 'impact' not the 'heat'. I don't know why you're talking about the heat issue.
(Do you think the poorly made sword would melt?)
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Well, i don't claim to know a lot about physics... but i'm pretty sure there's a difference in force when you're shooting something head on vs glancing something so it can spin.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Ummm, ever hear of rifling? You DO know what rifling does right? Rifling actually does EXACTLY what that sword does. It cuts into the bullet to give it spin. So yes, gun barrels are shot into every day thousands of times with no adverse affect.
Look, its a cool video, and shows the quality of good steel, but its certainly nothing to get all googly eyed about.
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That feat should be relatively easy for ANY decently made sword. Espeically using pistol ammunition. Pistol bullets are lead, you can actually "cut" then with a good butterknife. I've made many a homemade hollowpoint by taking a pocket knife and cutting a deep X into the tips.
Your statement is quite true, however 'any decently made' sword will change its shape due to the impact even though a bullet is made by a mellow lead.
I said "decently made" which implies a good steel. Good steel wont even flinch to a bullet. A prime example is a gun barrel. Its simple 5140 (or 4150) steel. Its not the bullets that burn out barrels, its the heat from the powder.
So, gun barrels (steel) hold up to thousands of rounds. Why shouldnt a good sword (steel) hold up to one.
Now, those cheap 100 dollar display models... Your milage may vary there, because I'm sure they use a softer steel or a more brittle steel. Essentially, they dont use the RIGHT steel.
I was talking about the 'sudden impact'. Do barrels get the sudden impact I'm talking about?
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Ummm, ever hear of rifling? You DO know what rifling does right? Rifling actually does EXACTLY what that sword does. It cuts into the bullet to give it spin. So yes, gun barrels are shot into every day thousands of times with no adverse affect.
Look, its a cool video, and shows the quality of good steel, but its certainly nothing to get all googly eyed about.
Rifling is there for accuracy and distance, not even for the impact. A sword works totally different way. I don't even know why you're talking about the 'melting' issue and 'spin'. Hello? The subject here is the 'impact'.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Well, i don't claim to know a lot about physics... but i'm pretty sure there's a difference in force when you're shooting something head on vs glancing something so it can spin.
True, but even then this isnt "head on" as it were. A very good deal of the energy is still present even after contact with the sword, visible by the holes in the paper. The sword doesnt STOP the energy, it just redirects it as it were. Now, if they turned the sword sideways and then shot it, thats a different story, as the blade would then have to stop ALL the energy of the bullet, not just cut the bullet and redirect the energy.