Japanese going to open a can in Iraq . . .

BaliBabyDoc

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of food according to BBC World

Mr Koizumi and his cabinet ministers have insisted the troops will only be sent to areas "free of military conflict" and would be involved in a non-combat role, mainly transporting supplies and ammunition.

During a visit to Japan last month, US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage welcomed the prospect of any assistance or "boots on the ground" from Japan. "It would leave me with a great feeling of confidence that Japan is willing to take her place with the major nations of the world and play a positive role for security," he said.

Earlier on Friday, Mr Koizumi's Cabinet approved the dispatch of three C-130 planes and one U-4 transport plane to ferry food, medicine and other supplies to countries bordering Iraq, where the supplies will be transferred to trucks for the final leg into the country.

Can you say "easy pickings" for Iraqi resistance?



 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
of food according to BBC World

Mr Koizumi and his cabinet ministers have insisted the troops will only be sent to areas "free of military conflict" and would be involved in a non-combat role, mainly transporting supplies and ammunition.

During a visit to Japan last month, US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage welcomed the prospect of any assistance or "boots on the ground" from Japan. "It would leave me with a great feeling of confidence that Japan is willing to take her place with the major nations of the world and play a positive role for security," he said.

Earlier on Friday, Mr Koizumi's Cabinet approved the dispatch of three C-130 planes and one U-4 transport plane to ferry food, medicine and other supplies to countries bordering Iraq, where the supplies will be transferred to trucks for the final leg into the country.

Can you say "easy pickings" for Iraqi resistance?

If they are only going to be performing logistical tasks, I don't see the resistance making them a priority.

 

0roo0roo

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you don't mess with the japanese or germans for that matter. else they whip out ww2 class attrocities on your ass:)
 

BaliBabyDoc

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IMHO, Iraqi resistance appears to be attacking targets of opportunity. They aren't rolling into Baghdad or taking on Abrams. If the Japanese operate as self-contained units they would be an excellent target for RPGs or mortars.
 

MovingTarget

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We could use all the help we can get in the humanitarian part of the mission over there now. If the Japanese want to pitch in, the more the better. But like some of you say here, there is a signifigant risk involved in them doing so by being exposed to the Iraqi resistance.
 

dahunan

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We really need to Bring the UN or NATO together to reconstruct Iraq's Economy and then get the fvck out of there.

 

charrison

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
IMHO, Iraqi resistance appears to be attacking targets of opportunity. They aren't rolling into Baghdad or taking on Abrams. If the Japanese operate as self-contained units they would be an excellent target for RPGs or mortars.

There was report on tv the other night, every day in Iraq there are over 500 patrols and 500 convoys of supplies. Only a couple a day encounter any problems.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I don't refute your numbers I'm just saying it's not like The Patriot or anything going on in Iraq. There are a lot of people scattered throughout the country that will NEVER support our presence and will actively attack ANY target of opportunity. If the Japanese keep to themselves either well in the north (Kurds) or well to the south (Shi'ites), I think they have little to worry about. But if they are coming to help, we need help in a big circle extending from Baghdad outwards at least 200 miles. I doubt the Japanese signed up for such duty.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
I don't refute your numbers I'm just saying it's not like The Patriot or anything going on in Iraq. There are a lot of people scattered throughout the country that will NEVER support our presence and will actively attack ANY target of opportunity. If the Japanese keep to themselves either well in the north (Kurds) or well to the south (Shi'ites), I think they have little to worry about. But if they are coming to help, we need help in a big circle extending from Baghdad outwards at least 200 miles. I doubt the Japanese signed up for such duty.

The Japanese will teach the Iraqi how to exploit the American Market place and with their oil become owners of most of the US land mass without incurring any of the debt.. and for this advice Japan will regain their place in world economies.. at a fee of 10%... thank you ... See.... there are more than one way to win a war... .... remember the Maine..
 

magomago

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That and according to my Mom the Japanese had a lot of business and interests in Iraq anyway...My mom worked for a company with a name something along the likes of "Asano" and she did a bunch of stuff with structural engineering and ended up traveling a lot of places in Asia and Europe.

 

etech

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Originally posted by: dahunan
We really need to Bring the UN or NATO together to reconstruct Iraq's Economy and then get the fvck out of there.


Why? Please name the countries that the UN has sucessfully reconstructed. If it was the UN doing the reconstructing the US would still be paying the majority of the bill and would still have to go in and pick up the pieces after the UN mucked the job up.


BBD
IMHO, Iraqi resistance appears to be attacking targets of opportunity. They aren't rolling into Baghdad or taking on Abrams. If the Japanese operate as self-contained units they would be an excellent target for RPGs or mortars.

I don't follow your reasoning. As long as they had air cover, what difference would it make if they operated as self-contained units or as part of the US forces?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I don't follow your reasoning. As long as they had air cover, what difference would it make if they operated as self-contained units or as part of the US forces?
Do you really think Japanese units will get preference for air cover? By someone's post, there are hundreds of patrols and convoys each day. I seriously doubt the US is providing air cover for each one.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
I don't follow your reasoning. As long as they had air cover, what difference would it make if they operated as self-contained units or as part of the US forces?
Do you really think Japanese units will get preference for air cover? By someone's post, there are hundreds of patrols and convoys each day. I seriously doubt the US is providing air cover for each one.


You really have to stretch to make one of your points don't you BBD. They may not have their own air cover, they might not get preference for air cover....you seriously doubt, blah blah, blah...

Why don't you bitch about it when you have some facts.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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Damn dude who pissed in your Oat Bran. All I'm saying is that given a choice between hitting heavily armored divisions of US troops, Iraqi resistance will continue to attack museum guards, police barracks, lightly armored patrols, and supply convoys. The only item I find stretched is your sphincter . . . breathe, relax . . . you'll live longer and have more friends.

In short, the US needs a lot of help in Iraq. We should acknowledge the Japanese gesture but I won't be surprised if they catch just as much if not more trouble than the US . . . assuming they are near Baghdad instead of the less inhospitable regions in the north and south. Odds are the US will try to find a relatively safe area for them operate.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Damn dude who pissed in your Oat Bran. All I'm saying is that given a choice between hitting heavily armored divisions of US troops, Iraqi resistance will continue to attack museum guards, police barracks, lightly armored patrols, and supply convoys. The only item I find stretched is your sphincter . . . breathe, relax . . . you'll live longer and have more friends.

In short, the US needs a lot of help in Iraq. We should acknowledge the Japanese gesture but I won't be surprised if they catch just as much if not more trouble than the US . . . assuming they are near Baghdad instead of the less inhospitable regions in the north and south. Odds are the US will try to find a relatively safe area for them operate.

In the future I will keep both my oat bran and my spincter far away from you BBD. You show too much interest in both.

Yes, the US can use some assistence in Iraq. The Japanese have offered. They are aware of the danger that Saddam loyalists still present. Other than that, I most admit that I am impressed at your molehill to mountain abilities, That is all.

 

etech

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Hey oats are good for everyone . . .

So is psyllium in moderation. Right now I'm looking for some kefir grains. Do you know of a source?