January nominee slide? Second thoughts in Iowa?

Witling

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I don't remember exactly when the Democrats opened their nomination process; sometime in the 60's or early 70's. They made the nomination process available to the masses. Before that, it was done by insiders in a "smoke filled room." (Budding writers, please note that the quoted phrase is a cliche.) I honestly think that the insiders did a better job of nominating acceptable candidates. I'm a big Dean supporter, but whether he can be elected depends on the "I'm p!ssed off at Bush" phenomonum.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Whitling
I don't remember exactly when the Democrats opened their nomination process; sometime in the 60's or early 70's. They made the nomination process available to the masses. Before that, it was done by insiders in a "smoke filled room." (Budding writers, please note that the quoted phrase is a cliche.) I honestly think that the insiders did a better job of nominating acceptable candidates. I'm a big Dean supporter, but whether he can be elected depends on the "I'm p!ssed off at Bush" phenomonum.

Yeah - the "I hate Bush" phenomenon should prove to be an interesting thing to watch to see if it is effective. I'm not so sure I'd like insiders picking the nominee though - too much buddy buddy stuff goes on already.

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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Latest Polls show Clarke in virtual dead heat with Dean and Clarke seen as pulling ahead in most States now. The Poll also shows that Bush would still beat either Clarke or Dean in a landslide:

1-7-2004 Clark closes in on Dean in poll; Bush still beats Democratic field

The 21-point lead he held over Clark less than a month ago has narrowed to just 4 percentage points, within the poll's margin of error.

Meanwhile, President Bush begins the election year with the Republican nomination assured, the national mood brightening and higher ratings for the way he is handling the economy and Iraq.

Overall, 60% of those surveyed Friday through Monday approve of the job Bush is doing. And 55% say they are satisfied with the way things are going in the country, the highest level in nearly nine months.

In the poll, Bush beat Dean by 22 percentage points among likely voters. Against an unnamed Democrat, Bush won by 17 percentage points.

The survey shows a political landscape more favorable to Bush's re-election than that faced at this point by other recent presidents - by President Clinton in 1996, who won a second term, and by the first President Bush in 1992 and President Carter in 1980, who didn't.

 

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<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/09/politics/campaigns/09VOTE.html?pagewanted=all">Second thoughts here in Iowa?
Tide of Second Thoughts Rises Among Democrats</a>

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/09/politics/campaigns/09VOTE.html?pagewanted=all">Second thoughts here in Iowa?
Tide of Second Thoughts Rises Among Democrats</a>

CkG

Somebody forgot to tell Dean to skip Iowa, that's CAD's State.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/09/politics/campaigns/09VOTE.html?pagewanted=all">Second thoughts here in Iowa?
Tide of Second Thoughts Rises Among Democrats</a>

CkG

Somebody forgot to tell Dean to skip Iowa, that's CAD's State.

We didn't have a chance to chat when I met him - I think he'd have gotten the point if I would have had a few minutes;):D

CkG
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/09/politics/campaigns/09VOTE.html?pagewanted=all">Second thoughts here in Iowa?
Tide of Second Thoughts Rises Among Democrats</a>

CkG

Somebody forgot to tell Dean to skip Iowa, that's CAD's State.

I guess alot of people forgot to tell dean to skip Iowa:p Or actually it's more like "don't let the door.........but thanks for the money":D:p

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/09/politics/campaigns/09VOTE.html?pagewanted=all">Second thoughts here in Iowa?
Tide of Second Thoughts Rises Among Democrats</a>

CkG

Somebody forgot to tell Dean to skip Iowa, that's CAD's State.

I guess alot of people forgot to tell dean to skip Iowa:p Or actually it's more like "don't let the door.........but thanks for the money":D:p

CkG

It was not a surprise at all, only to the News Media, apparently not enough Journalists hang out here in ATPN yet to get a heads up, poor saps.