Jallikattu: Bulls 5 kills + 60 injured.

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Kaido

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They justify this because it's supposedly 'culture' and 'tradition'. If you try to ban it the politicians in Tamil Nadu call it stifling of their Hindu tradition, in an effort to cozy up with the BJP in the centre, who are basically Hindu supremacists. This is because there is an election in the state this year. If any other political party says they're going to do something about this, their opponents will say 'it's an attack on Tamil pride' and hence those who are against this are anti-Tamil. Basically a confirmed win in the elections.

If you try to argue 'but what about animal cruelty?' they'll say what about Muslims who are to consume beef? Cows are sacred in India.

Eh, every culture has its oddities. In America, we don't think twice about gore in movies or eating ourselves to death through heart disease & diabetes (which are in the top ten leading causes of deaths in America). What seems crazy in one country is totally normal in others!
 

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Eh, every culture has its oddities. In America, we don't think twice about gore in movies or eating ourselves to death through heart disease & diabetes (which are in the top ten leading causes of deaths in America). What seems crazy in one country is totally normal in others!
A long slow glorious death by food sure beats the hell out of being gored by a bull.
 
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Eh, every culture has its oddities. In America, we don't think twice about gore in movies or eating ourselves to death through heart disease & diabetes (which are in the top ten leading causes of deaths in America). What seems crazy in one country is totally normal in others!
There is still widespread poverty and crippling hunger in India, and yet the incidence of type-2 diabetes in India is highest in the world.

Cultural oddities from a past age may be in conflict with modern sensibilities; this particular practice is plain stupid in this day and age.
 

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Cultural oddities from a past age may be in conflict with modern sensibilities; this particular practice is plain stupid in this day and age.

It's okay, we have Tide Pods now! :D
 

Kaido

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There is still widespread poverty and crippling hunger in India, and yet the incidence of type-2 diabetes in India is highest in the world.

Wow, that's pretty interesting - and the two actually intersect:

http://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/why-indians-are-at-higher-risk-of-diabetes/

As it turns out, introducing a better diet after generations of being undernourished has had some negative consequences:
Based on their results that eating a ‘normal’ diet can make animals overweight, if their ancestors had been undernourished for several generations, the researcher from University of Sydney in Australia, the National Centre for Cell Science and the DYP Medical College in Pune, India said that diabetes is linked to the nutrition endured by ancestors.

“People in developing countries have faced multi-generational undernutrition and are currently undergoing major lifestyle changes, contributing to an epidemic of metabolic diseases, though the underlying mechanisms remain unclear,” the study said.

Increasing prosperity in developing countries has been accompanied by a sudden increase in caloric intake.

However their populations’ epigenetic makeup, whereby changing environmental factors alter how people’s genes are expressed, has not compensated for these dietary changes.

This means their bodies are still designed to cope with undernourishment; so they store fat in a manner that makes them more prone to obesity and its resulting diseases than populations accustomed to several generations of a ‘normal’ diet.

This scenario was recreated in a 12-year study of two groups of rats by associated professor Anandwardhan Hardikar’s team at the University of Sydney and colleagues overseas.

The first group was undernourished for 50 generations and then put on a normal diet for two generations.

The second (control) group maintained a normal diet for 52 generations. At the end of the study it was found that when the descendants of the first group were exposed to a normal diet, these rats were eight times more likely to develop diabetes and multiple metabolic defects when compared to the control group.

“Their adverse metabolic state was not reversed by two generations of nutrient recuperation through a normal diet,” Hardikar said.


“Instead this newly prosperous population favoured storage of the excess nutrients as fat leading to increased obesity, cardiovascular disease and metabolic risk for diabetes when compared to their ‘developed world’ counterparts.”
 

Kaido

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Horns....glorious food cooked by Kaido.....

Not really much of a choice. When's dinner?

Eh, bull soup tonight? :D

OT, but I've been getting more into baking lately (now that I have a working oven again, yay!). Found another awesome base recipe to work from:

https://www.biggerbolderbaking.com/crazy-dough/

So the foundation is "crazy dough", which splits into a ton of recipes:
  1. Cheesy Bread
  2. Pizza
  3. Naan
  4. Nutella Bread
  5. Focaccia Bread
  6. Pretzels
  7. Stuffed Bread
  8. Cinnamon Rolls
That was then expanded into crazy cookie dough:

https://www.biggerbolderbaking.com/crazy-cookie-dough/

Which splits into endless variations:
  1. Classic Chocolate Chip Cookie
  2. Oatmeal Raisin Cookie
  3. Double Chocolate Cookie
  4. Peanut Butter Cookie
  5. Chocolate Hazelnut Cookie
  6. S'more Cookie
  7. Salted Caramel Cookie
  8. Birthday Cake Cookie
That was then further expanded into crazy muffin dough:

https://www.biggerbolderbaking.com/crazy-muffins/
  1. Blueberry and Oat
  2. Banana Nut
  3. Apple Cinnamon
  4. Carrot Cake
  5. Double Chocolate
So one ring to rule them all, in essence.
 

tamz_msc

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Wow, that's pretty interesting - and the two actually intersect:

http://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/why-indians-are-at-higher-risk-of-diabetes/

As it turns out, introducing a better diet after generations of being undernourished has had some negative consequences:
I have come across that study, but coming to the issue at hand it is a cultural thing.

There were certainly some valid reasons for why this was practiced in the past - it was used as a means of selective breeding. The strongest bull to emerge from the competition would get all the lady moos. But now with scientific methods of breeding it's no longer necessary. If there weren't any more context to this, then ending Jallikattu simply because it has outlived it's usefulness and for the safety of the animals and humans involved would have been a non-issue.

The reason why it is allowed to continue is that it is seen as an act of defiance against to imposition of cultural hegemony by Hindustani people of the north, mainly through forcing the Hindi language in the Dravidian states of the south. The people of the Dravidian language-speaking states have vehemently opposed the attempts of the Hindi-speaking north Indians since Independence(there has never been a political party from the south in power at the centre) to push Hindi as an official language to the detriment of their own languages. Tamil Nadu was at the forefront of this agitation during the time after Independence.

Hence, any attempt to ban this thing is seen as an affront to the Tamils, which is why it's political suicide to speak up against this practice. Any issue that doesn't reap political dividends in this country is low priority for the ruling dispensation.