Jacksonville School forced to change name

[thraashman]

Oklahoma means the same thing. Are you for renaming the state of Oklahoma?

Technically negro and the n-word "mean" the same thing. But one is a slur and the other is not. Hell, fuck and screw can mean the same thing in context yet one is allowed to be said on television. I didn't write the rules for language.

Also Robert C Byrd HS, a member of the KKK who voted against the Civil Rights Act.

http://www.harcoboe.com/robertcbyrdhighschool/

When can we expect this school to change its name too?

I would support that being changed as well.

And 90% of native Americans don't consider it a racial slur either...is that disgusting as well? Perhaps you should save some of that outrage for those who insult eskimos despite knowing it's a slur. Need help picking out a new non-offensive username?

I'd also be willing to bet that most white people don't have much of a problem with the words "beloved patriot" or "cracker", they're still technically racial epithets.

 

[Joepublic2]

http://www.schools-data.com/schools/NATHAN-B--FORREST-HS-Jacksonville.html

School grade: D
Dropout rate: 7.9%
High School graduation rate: 40.4%

Percentage of grade 12 enrollment taking the SAT: 34.3%
SAT average for all students taking the test: 955
ACT average for all students taking the test: 19.7

Incidents of Crime and Violence:
Violent Acts Against Persons: 21
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Other Drugs: 43
Property: 43
Fighting and Harassment: 51
Weapons Possession: 7
Other Nonviolent Incidents and Disorderly Conduct: 39

Looks like they're doing Mr. Forrest a favor. This school seems like a place where civility and education go to die.

 

[HomerJS]

Dude, this guy was a KKK grand wizard. Shouldn't name a school after him.
End of discussion, bullshit outrage.

The school opened in 1995 well after Byrd completely and unequivocally renounced his klan past.

A fail on your fail.

 

[nehalem256]

Who insults eskimos despite knowing it's a slur? If people are doing that that's definitely disgusting behavior as well. The name beloved patriot is indisputably a slur and some American Indians are offended by it. Considering what you name your sports franchise is totally arbitrary, there is no rational reason to continue doing so.

"beloved patriot" is a racial descriptor of disputed origin for Native Americans. Although by some accounts not originally having negative intent
...
In the contemporary United States, "beloved patriot" is often but not universally regarded as a racial epithet

Now let us compare that to eskimo:

Eskimo (or Esquimaux (French)) is a term, considered to be pejorative
...
In Canada and Greenland the term Eskimo is widely held by the indigenous peoples to be pejorative and has fallen out of favour, largely supplanted by the term Inuit

Seems the word eskimo is more of a perjorative than beloved patriot.

See also:

But in 2004, a poll by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania essentially confirmed the prior poll's findings, concluding that 91% of the American Indians surveyed in the 48 states on the mainland USA found the name acceptable and setting out in detail the exact wording of the questions

91% of Native Americans are cool with the Washington Redskins. How many people have to be offended by a name before it becomes unacceptable?

 

[nehalem256]

Technically negro and the n-word "mean" the same thing. But one is a slur and the other is not. Hell, fuck and screw can mean the same thing in context yet one is allowed to be said on television. I didn't write the rules for language.

So you would be fine with changing the name to the Washington Negros? :sneaky:

I'd also be willing to bet that most white people don't have much of a problem with the words "beloved patriot" or "cracker", they're still technically racial epithets.

If only butt-hurt liberals are bother by the use of a word is a really a racial slur?

 

[nehalem256]

The school opened in 1995 well after Byrd completely and unequivocally renounced his klan past.

A fail on your fail.

So he is a flip-flopper and a racist. That seems like 2 strikes against him.

At least Nathan Bedford Forrest stood by his convictions.

 

[fskimospy]

Now let us compare that to eskimo:

Seems the word eskimo is more of a perjorative than beloved patriot.

91% of Native Americans are cool with the Washington Redskins. How many people have to be offended by a name before it becomes unacceptable?

lol. Nice try. Polls of self identified Native Americans are notoriously unreliable.

As for your opinions on what is offensive or not, I couldn't care less.

 

[dainthomas]

Only on ATPN is "hey, how about we stop naming schools after violent racists" a controversial topic.

Maybe on stormfront too, but I haven't checked recently.

This.

Renaming schools with native american names is ridiculous, but this is common sense.

 

[nehalem256]

lol. Nice try. Polls of self identified Native Americans are notoriously unreliable.

Who needs facts when you have liberal outrage?

 

[Genx87]

School board chooses to no longer name its school after the leader of a violent organization dedicated to racial supremacy.

Why is that decision at all controversial. That's basic common sense.

Heh a lot of schools are named after leaders that fit that definition if we want to get picky. That whole manifest destiny thing wasnt exactly kind to native americans. Some even call it genocide.

 

[MiniDoom]

i'm half indian and don't have a problem with these names. People are way overly sensitive. Many of my indian side of my family are redskins fans and it seems the people who are upset are whites.

 

[NesuD]

School Board voted to change the name. No force seen here. It is certainly the prerogative of the board to do that as they see fit. Seems like a purely local issue.

 

[BoomerD]

Nothing says "Welcome!" to minority students like attending a school named for a KKK Grand Wizard...

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

School Board voted to change the name. No force seen here. It is certainly the prerogative of the board to do that as they see fit. Seems like a purely local issue.

Agree...and it should have been done a while ago imo. I personally wouldn't want a school named after that guy in my community. But like you said...this is a local issue handled appropriately at the local level...nothing to see here.

 

[stlc8tr]

Is this topic meant as tongue-in-cheek? The school board unanimously voted to change it, and it doesn't seem like there's a lot of outrage from the community, so I don't see the problem (the article only mentions that more than half the faculty is against the change; the students are in favor).

i think zinfamous was trying on his Incorruptible disguise.

 

[hal2kilo]

i think zinfamous was trying on his Incorruptible disguise.

He broke my damn meter.

 

[IronWing]

A Jacksonville school has been forced to change it's name by the PC police. Nathan B Forrest High school, named after a war veteran, has been attacked by liberal judges and progressives and their white guilt. This is also a liberal attack on our veterans' honor.



http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/...med-for-confederate-general-to-get-a-new-name

Do you think they should have been forced to change their name?

Forrest was a slaver and a traitor. Honor not found.


But I might have been suckered in by a troll post.

 

[IronWing]

Silver Slabs?

 

[Spungo]

School board chooses to no longer name its school after the leader of a violent organization dedicated to racial supremacy.

Why is that decision at all controversial. That's basic common sense.

I was expecting a dumb story until this line:
"He later served as the first "Grand Wizard" of the Ku Klux Klan."

Does this town also have a school called Hitler High?

 

[cyclohexane]

I was expecting a dumb story until this line:
"He later served as the first "Grand Wizard" of the Ku Klux Klan."

Does this town also have a school called Hitler High?

Wouldn't put it past the posters here to defend such a name.

 

[SheHateMe]

We should name more schools after our White, Klu Klux warriors. We should name more schools after slavers as well..


After all, they're American heroes who deserve honor and glory.

 

[HomerJS]

So he is a flip-flopper and a racist. That seems like 2 strikes against him.

At least Nathan Bedford Forrest stood by his convictions.

The SCLC even forgave George Wallace. Maybe you guys can stop pulling the rights only card Robert Byrd out of their collective asses.

 

[IGBT]

re name it the Bill Clinton massage parlor and pornographic library.

 

[werepossum]

http://www.schools-data.com/schools/NATHAN-B--FORREST-HS-Jacksonville.html

Looks like they're doing Mr. Forrest a favor. This school seems like a place where civility and education go to die.

LOL!

Can't expect school kids to learn the Barack Hussein Obama chant in a school named after Nathan Bedford Forrest. Mumia Abu-Jamal High School, maybe. David Ayers High School, maybe. Robert KKK. Byrd High School, certainly. Not Forrest.

Maybe they can honor Frtiz Hollings, who bravely criticized a Republican governor for not moving quickly enough to remove the Confederate flag that Hollings himself added to the state capital building. They could name their sports teams the Hollings' Big Balls.

 

[werepossum]

lol. Nice try. Polls of self identified Native Americans are notoriously unreliable.

As for your opinions on what is offensive or not, I couldn't care less.

Yeah, they're such children.

i think zinfamous was trying on his Incorruptible disguise.

"Do you think they should have been forced to change their name?" /= "I think they should not have been forced to change their name." The question was neutral and is reasonable. Maybe a little misleading as there was no actual force beyond public opinion, but the actual point - should schools change (or even be forced to change) names if the people honored should not have been honored - is a reasonable topic for discussion. (Although probably more productively so if the specific issue is not so one-sided as NBF.) One could make a better case for not changing the name if it were, say, Lee.