Jack Abramoff knew of "upcoming war on Iraq" in *March 2002*

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shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Stunt
I find it quite humorous you are using the democrats homepage for your information. Talk about non-partisan :roll:

:laugh:

I suppose it is better than RawStory, but not by much.


If the information is true, the source doesn't matter.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Please, leave the "inspectors" debate alone. That nonsense has been hashed and rehashed a thousand times here.
What's the matter, little boy? Tired of hearing the truth, especially since more hard evidence exposing all of the Bushwhackos' lies, deceit and just plain stupidity is coming out and more people are finally listening? :shocked:

Gonna go sit in the corner, pout and hold your breath until you turn blue? That may be a good idea. The color blue would look good on you. :laugh:
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Do we even need to debate this anymore? Everyone knows that the administration was hellbent on invading Iraq from the get go. Just look at their impatience with the UN inspecition regime. I remember thinking at the time that they obviously didn't care about inspections or sanctions or whatnot. They just wanted to go in.

Please, leave the "inspectors" debate alone. That nonsense has been hashed and rehashed a thousand times here.

You just don't want to hear it again because the truth of it doesn't support your wacko agenda at all.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Harvey
What's the matter, little boy? Tired of hearing the truth, especially since more hard evidence exposing all of the Bushwhackos' lies, deceit and just plain stupidity is coming out and more people are finally listening? :shocked:

Let's see. Harvey + Truth ... Thanks for a great laugh :laugh:

Gonna go sit in the corner, pout and hold your breath until you turn blue? That may be a good idea. The color blue would look good on you. :laugh:

How about you try a little more fact and evidence presentation, little boy?
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
You just don't want to hear it again because the truth of it doesn't support your wacko agenda at all.

Right. Well, Einstein, please elaborate. I'd like to hear your laundry list of excuses for the incompetent UN inspectors.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Pens1566
You just don't want to hear it again because the truth of it doesn't support your wacko agenda at all.

Right. Well, Einstein, please elaborate. I'd like to hear your laundry list of excuses for the incompetent UN inspectors.

You mean the incompetent inspectors that couldn't find anything .......... because it wasn't there?

In short, so you can keep up, the resolution called for use of force only if the inspectors weren't allowed access, which they got. Sorry that the truth doesn't fit your ideas.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Do we even need to debate this anymore? Everyone knows that the administration was hellbent on invading Iraq from the get go. Just look at their impatience with the UN inspecition regime. I remember thinking at the time that they obviously didn't care about inspections or sanctions or whatnot. They just wanted to go in.

Please, leave the "inspectors" debate alone. That nonsense has been hashed and rehashed a thousand times here.
You're right. Bush yanked the inspectors. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Glad you agree.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Pens1566
You just don't want to hear it again because the truth of it doesn't support your wacko agenda at all.

Right. Well, Einstein, please elaborate. I'd like to hear your laundry list of excuses for the incompetent UN inspectors.


Jan. 2003
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/18/iraq/main537096.shtml
So frustrated have the inspectors become that one source has referred to the U.S. intelligence they've been getting as "garbage after garbage after garbage." In fact, Phillips says the source used another cruder word. The inspectors find themselves caught between the Iraqis, who are masters at the weapons-hiding shell game, and the United States, whose intelligence they've found to be circumstantial, outdated or just plain wrong.


Oct. 2004
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articl.../10/30/iraq_inspections_said_rebuffed/
United Nations weapons inspectors pressed for permission to return to Iraq to help monitor weapons sites on the heels of the US-led invasion but were denied entry by the US-led coalition, according to a former inspector, UN officials, and a letter from the International Atomic Energy Agency obtained by the Globe.

The sites included Al Qaqaa, a sprawling facility about 30 miles south of Baghdad. At least 377 tons of powerful explosives, including the particularly dangerous substance known as HMX, have vanished from that location.


"They wanted to go. They were begging to go," said David Albright, a former weapons inspector who now heads the Institute for Science and International Security and who lobbied in vain for the UN agency in April 2003 to be allowed to resume work in Iraq. "They would have gone to Al Qaqaa and said, 'Here's the HMX. Burn it.' They would have been a driver of efforts to find these things. . . . They would have provided a tremendous service."

Sept. 2006 (from Woodward's new book)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/29/washington/29account.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Vice President Cheney is described as a man so determined to find proof that his claim about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was accurate that, in the summer of 2003, his aides were calling the chief weapons inspector, David Kay, with specific satellite coordinates as the sites of possible caches. None resulted in any finds.

Incompetence? Sure. Criminal incompetence on the part of your idols.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: conjur
From the Committee on Government Reform Minority Office


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http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/abramoff/docs/abramoff.pdf

From: Jack Abramoff
To: 'octagon1'
Monday, March 18, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: Sunday

I was sitting yesterday with Karl Rove, Bush's top advisor, at the NCAA basketball game, discussing Israel when this email came in. I showed it to him. It seems that the President was very sad to have to come out negatively regarding Israel, but that they needed to mollify the Arabs for the upcoming war on Iraq. That did not seem to work anyway. Bush seems to love Sharon and Israel, and thinks Arabfat , is nothing but a liar. I thought I'd pass that on.

A mere 5 months after we started action in Afghanistan, lobbyist scum Jack Abramoff was already aware of an "upcoming war on Iraq". Not just looking into modifying sanctions or using diplomacy on Iraq...an "upcoming war".

Impeach the entire administration!


Edit: Here's a link to a scan of the email:
http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/abramoff/docs/0931_001.pdf

Page 26

I thought Bush&co had their Iraq plans made up in 98. Gonna out do daddy and all that?
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: conjur
Got a problem with a copy of an email from Abramoff? I'd have posted it if it came from Newsmax or MotherJones. You sound like Pabster dismissing PDFs posted at RawStory.

Right. Marked for your next attack on Newsmax content.

Are you stating the email is false? If not, then what do have to say regarding its content?
Fluffers like Pabster can't say anything. They are incapable of thinking for themselves. Just look at his history of posts. Nothing but distraction and fluffing.


actually Pabster makes alot of sense when he posts.

For some reason your posts tend to be somewhere between maningless babbling and meaningless diatribe.....:D