IWW, who are they?

[MtnMan]

I teach in a community college. I have a student that was in Charlottesville and missed a class due to being traumatized by the events there. He emailed me of being concerned for his comrades, and shared much more information than to say he would not be in class. He wears what is apparently and IWW bandana tied around his upper arm.

Who are these people, and what doe the stand for? I've seen their website and their propaganda, and articles where they have counter demonstrated against neo-confederates and others.

How far left are they?
How radical are they?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Very left and very radical. But have no fear, a community college student who identifies with them is 99.9% likely a pathetic poseur with absolutely no belief in the organization and no skin in the game. Like wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt, it's a public fashion statement for white liberal guilt suburban geeks who want to look enlightened without actually doing anything.

A real Wobbly wouldn't be traumatized so easily, your student is a dilettante who went full on snowflake when the shit got real.

 

[Jaskalas]

IWW, who are they?

Something I've never heard of.

 

[pmv]

I thought they were the International Workers of the World, aka the Wobblies, the group Joe Hill was associated with. News to me that they are still around.

But the left does tend to recycle old names. I'd guess it's more that than an actual direct lineage, given that the fellow doesn't exactly sound like a tough street-fighting type.

(I mean, there are only so many combinations of 'worker' 'socialist' 'communist' 'revolutionary' 'league' 'group' and 'party' that one can come up with)

 

[NAC4EV]

Unionists

 

[Thump553]

The Wobblies are back? Flashback to WWI era.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Just Communists that don't smell as clean.
https://content.lib.washington.edu/iwwweb/readIWW.html
" Industrial Workers of the World (I.W.W.) was a radical organization in the United States that was most active between the turn of the century and the 1930s. The Wobblies, as they were known, believed there must be radical changes in American capitalism to improve the oppressive conditions that workers faced. Many I.W.W. members believed in socialist or communist ideology and some advocated whatever means necessary to effect change, including sabotage and violence."

 

[pmv]

Just Communists that don't smell as clean.
https://content.lib.washington.edu/iwwweb/readIWW.html
" Industrial Workers of the World (I.W.W.) was a radical organization in the United States that was most active between the turn of the century and the 1930s. The Wobblies, as they were known, believed there must be radical changes in American capitalism to improve the oppressive conditions that workers faced. Many I.W.W. members believed in socialist or communist ideology and some advocated whatever means necessary to effect change, including sabotage and violence."

Actually, syndicalists rather than communists. You don't smell that fragrant yourself, what with all the apologia for Nazis you go in for.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Actually, syndicalists rather than communists. You don't smell that fragrant yourself, what with all the apologia for Nazis you go in for.

I hate Nazis, but then i think you're a really piece of shit also. I think it reflects my innate good taste and values.

 

[pmv]

I hate Nazis, but then i think you're a really piece of shit also. I think it reflects my innate good taste and values.

We have seen a full-on Nazi rally. With a violent death at the hands of Nazis. The President (with a history that suggests he's far from free of racist views himself) fails to condemn it. And you obsessively post to try and divert attention onto a random collection of people (of various politics, with varying degrees of seriousness and faux-radical posturing, to be honest) whose only common feature is they want to oppose fascism.

What exactly do you expect people to conclude from the way you spend so much time desperately trying to divert attention from the real issue here and to minimise the threat posed by Nazis? You seem to be getting increasingly emotional about it as well. Almost as if you are deeply invested in this project.

 

[alien42]

wouldn't their website be a good place to start?

https://www.iww.org/

https://www.iww.org/projects/gdc

 

[Victorian Gray]

I hate Nazis, but then i think you're a really piece of shit also. I think it reflects my innate good taste and values.

Hey, waterboy!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I hate Nazis, but then i think you're a really piece of shit also. I think it reflects my innate good taste and values.

no worries tajjy, everyone here is very well aware of your 'good taste and values'

 

[imported_tajmahal]

We have seen a full-on Nazi rally. With a violent death at the hands of Nazis. The President (with a history that suggests he's far from free of racist views himself) fails to condemn it. And you obsessively post to try and divert attention onto a random collection of people (of various politics, with varying degrees of seriousness and faux-radical posturing, to be honest) whose only common feature is they want to oppose fascism.

What exactly do you expect people to conclude from the way you spend so much time desperately trying to divert attention from the real issue here and to minimise the threat posed by Nazis? You seem to be getting increasingly emotional about it as well. Almost as if you are deeply invested in this project.

You are just one of several lefties in the forum that is actively supporting political violence by antifa and other groups. It's time you spoke out against violence. Or are you one of those calling for the assassination of President Trump?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...em-senator-who-urged-trump-assassination.html

 

[greatnoob]

What exactly do you expect people to conclude from the way you spend so much time desperately trying to divert attention from the real issue here and to minimise the threat posed by Nazis? You seem to be getting increasingly emotional about it as well. Almost as if you are deeply invested in this project.

This is exactly what @Doc Savage Fan does interestingly enough. "I'm not a Trump supporter" yet he constantly throws himself under the bus defending his indefensible actions in every thread. They're lying.

 

[MtnMan]

wouldn't their website be a good place to start?

https://www.iww.org/

https://www.iww.org/projects/gdc

NO, I had already look at them and it is nothing but their PR face, I asked about how they really are! What are they actually doing, and what is their goal, not published on their PR page.

 

[alien42]

NO, I had already look at them and it is nothing but their PR face, I asked about how they really are! What are they actually doing, and what is their goal, not published on their PR page.

that doesn't make any sense, they clearly aren't a secret underground group, why would they be hiding what they actually do? do you know of any other groups that have a legit website but are secretly something else?

their history seems clear enough - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World

 

[pauldun170]

Use the research tools available at the college.
10 minutes on a research database to become informed vs post on an tech site forum to pull a "Ya wanna know what grinds my gears?"

 

[zinfamous]

You are just one of several lefties in the forum that is actively supporting political violence by antifa and other groups. It's time you spoke out against violence. Or are you one of those calling for the assassination of President Trump?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...em-senator-who-urged-trump-assassination.html

because the best way to counter an accusation of deflection is to keep deflecting. I wonder if you will ever run out of straw.

 

[hal2kilo]

You are just one of several lefties in the forum that is actively supporting political violence by antifa and other groups. It's time you spoke out against violence. Or are you one of those calling for the assassination of President Trump?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...em-senator-who-urged-trump-assassination.html

Nice speech.

 

[pmv]

NO, I had already look at them and it is nothing but their PR face, I asked about how they really are! What are they actually doing, and what is their goal, not published on their PR page.

I've never known a far-left group that was shy about stating their goal. And, as far as "what they are actually doing" goes, the usual tendency is to overstate that in their PR, rather than to conceal it.

Traditionally the answer involved "frantically selling papers - and pretending to the relevant committee that you've sold more than you actually have, if necessary buying them yourself to avoid being told off for your failure"

Though the internet might have changed that now.

Curious whether this IWW really has a direct lineage from the original.

 

[MtnMan]

that doesn't make any sense, they clearly aren't a secret underground group, why would they be hiding what they actually do? do you know of any other groups that have a legit website but are secretly something else?

their history seems clear enough - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World

Well the democratic party doesn't publish their true agenda and methods, nor does the republican party, nor the Neo-nazis, nor the KKK, or the UFLCIO, and the rest of the 'activists' groups, so why would the IWW? They all have their 'public' persona, because the many of their goals would enrage others.

After all (based on the email I received) a group of them traveled 350+ miles to protest other protestors, and he refereed to the others in the group as his 'comrades'. Doesn't really fit who they say they are on their website.

 

[greatnoob]

Well the democratic party doesn't publish their true agenda and methods, nor does the republican party, nor the Neo-nazis, nor the KKK, or the UFLCIO, and the rest of the 'activists' groups, so why would the IWW? They all have their 'public' persona, because the many of their goals would enrage others.

After all (based on the email I received) a group of them traveled 350+ miles to protest other protestors, and he refereed to the others in the group as his 'comrades'. Doesn't really fit who they say they are on their website.

Sounds to me like you're making this entire scenario up. Why not do your own research instead of expecting some random users on a tech forum to find out what group a bandanna wearing & easily-traumatised "comrades" stands for?

 

[DisarmedDespot]

Why is a college professor asking random nobodies on a tech forum about this? Can't you ask a colleague?

 

[MtnMan]

Sounds to me like you're making this entire scenario up. Why not do your own research instead of expecting some random users on a tech forum to find out what group a bandanna wearing & easily-traumatised "comrades" stands for?

Who pissed in your corn flakes this morning... Don't like the question/topic, take a hike and hit "next thread"