Ivy Bridge vs Sandy Bridge vs Bulldozer

[nvidiaintelftw]

Alright so im extremely confused about intels chips and what competing with Bulldozer. I keep seeing people talk bout intel new Sandy Bridge chips. What; is intel planning to release more chips in that line? What about Ivy Bridge. Are those the next Intel flagship chips that will consists of the new 3d transistor? I mean i know what Bulldozer is, im just confused between Intel Multiple chips and all that. Someone fill me in :$

 

[RobDickinson]

Intel will release more Sandy Bridge chips. The ones announced/out already are only the first lot. expect some 6 cpu SNB's etc.

Ivy Bridge will be out 'later' Perhaps even Q2 2012, at 22nm with the 3d transistors and 20-30% faster clock, bit more cache etc.

No idea on BD, who really does know ...

 

[Makaveli]

I believe Bulldozer will compete with Sandy bridge it may even beat it in some test.

However Ivy Bridge will just do to Bulldozer what nelahem did to the phenom II.

I'm hoping to be wrong on both counts because more choices in the market is always good but AMD has quite the large gap to close so only time will tell.

 

[nvidiaintelftw]

Intel 3d transistors seem like a huge step forward in technology. Intel seems to always be ahead in architecture and what not.

 

[videoclone]

Bulldozer comes out at E3 Expo on June 7, 2011 hard launch will start to trickle into the market a few weeks later.

Bulldozer II will be out befor Ivy Bridge.. ETA is end of the year or the start of next ( for Bulldozer II )

Intel SB-E still on 32nm ( second release sandybridge ) will be out later this year befor bulldozer II.

Ivy Bridge will be out next year on 22nm

hope that helps.

 

[Phynaz]

Bulldozer II will be out befor Ivy Bridge.. ETA is end of the year or the start of next ( for Bulldozer II )

I find it very hard to believe that BD is going to have a six month life.

Can you link to your source for this?

 

[ilkhan]

SB-E are the successor to the i7-9xx line on s1366. Workstation chips used in desktops. They're Sandy Bridge generation chips, 32nm. Quad channel memory, lots of cache.
Ivy Bridge in early 2012 will replace the current Sandy Bridge line while retaining s1155. These are the 3d transistors on 22nm.

 

[videoclone]

Intel 3d transistors seem like a huge step forward in technology. Intel seems to always be ahead in architecture and what not.

They have always been ahead and thats because they had the cash to pump into their fabs! and still do have the cash to upgrade every year!

How they got the cash is the dodgy part! and why they have paid out allot of "that same cash" to companies in court cases they lost!

When you dont play by the rules you get an unfair advantage and end up winning in the long run

... But all that is now in the past, they have cleaned up their act and are heavly moderated..
Last thing they want is to end up back on the EU Comission's Chopping block!

 

[Rifter]

This is my opinion, since nothing is out yet we will see how accurate it turns out to be.

I think BD will be comparable to current SB offerings.

I think the new SB chips not out yet(the 6 cores and faster 4 cores) will regain the lead over BD

I think IB will wipe the floor with BD and put intel firmly in the lead once again.

 

[videoclone]

I find it very hard to believe that BD is going to have a six month life.

Can you link to your source for this?

the AMD Website states 2012
http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2010/11...-all-about-velocity/dt-roadmap_with-footnote/

But ive seen news store's on Global foundries Tap outs of BD2 ( Komodo ) and they will be READY to ship at end of 2011

If AMD BD1 isnt the super dooper cpu everyones hoping it is then BD2 "Enhanced" ( Komodo 6 to 10 CORE CPU ) is ready for an early release.

That is AMD's Blan B AND its answer to Ivy Bridge

 

[SolMiester]

Personally, I dont see BD on an even keel with SB, Nehalem perhaps!...AMD is so far behind, I cant imagine them not leaking some sort of benchies to distract from SB sales....

 

[videoclone]

Solmiester.... i'm thinking the same thing but i'm hoping were wrong for the sake of competition, better pricing and faster cpu's

Just look at the wonders competition has done for the Graphics (CPU) Market, they have advanced so much faster then CPU's and continue too leapfrog each other every 6 to 12 months .. its awesome and prices drop like crazy on the price wars. its a win, win for us.

 

[OCGuy]

Can we merge all the BD speculation threads?

 

[386DX]

Personally, I dont see BD on an even keel with SB, Nehalem perhaps!...AMD is so far behind, I cant imagine them not leaking some sort of benchies to distract from SB sales....

I feel the same way. Intel's clock for clock IPC is just to far ahead of AMD's right now its unrealistic to believe BD will magically give AMD a 50% boost in IPC to beat the current SB CPU's at the same time throw in 2 extra cores.

The way I see things BD will bring AMD back to the way there were when the X6 CPU's first came out (AMD winning the # core dependent tests like Cinebench, encoding, etc losing in everything else). Currently SB beats AMD's best X6 CPU in virtually everything whether its single threaded or heavily multi-threaded (encoding, cinebench, 3ds, etc). BD will just win back a few benchmarks while still falling way behind in the real world applications people use.

 

[OCGuy]

Bulldozer comes out at E3 Expo on June 7, 2011 hard launch will start to trickle into the market a few weeks later.

Bulldozer II will be out befor Ivy Bridge.. ETA is end of the year or the start of next ( for Bulldozer II )

Intel SB-E still on 32nm ( second release sandybridge ) will be out later this year befor bulldozer II.

Ivy Bridge will be out next year on 22nm

hope that helps.

No....no....just.....no.

 

[caniba]

I love comparing cpu´s that are not even on the market yet.

 

[Makaveli]

This is what people on a technology forum do, Welcome to the internet!!

 

[videoclone]

No....no....just.....no.

Are you stating the standard reply you get from all girls?

Anyways i didnt just make that up. its all been stated from either AMD or the Fabrication companies.

You also dont think BD is coming out at E3 in June ??? WTF Your joking right? cause thats a big fail right there!

 

[Zap]

Alright so im extremely confused

You are confused because you are trying to compare a current CPU with two that do not yet exist (to the consumer). You can substitute "Yeti" for Bulldozer and "Unicorn" for Ivy Bridge if you want to be less confused. After all, even though they don't exist (maybe?) we already know a lot more about them.

 

[evilspoons]

This reminds me of 'bench racing' on car forums for project vehicles that haven't been completed yet.