Ivy Bridge 22nm sticks with socket 1155... But you'll need a new motherboard

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Axon

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wait there are boards with that.. there just expensive.

Right with that trixy NF200 chip. Is that native support or is it just manipulating the lanes somehow? E.g., will it actually perform as if there are two 16x lanes? I guess it doesn't matter, I see little to no difference on my P67 UD4 from my X58.
 

happy medium

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Sothe new socket 1155 will only support up to 4 core/8 thread cpu's and mabe not the 22nm Ivy bridge? There will be no support for 6/8 core cpu's for the socket 1155 socket?

What happend to the 1356 socket? Is it 2011 now? Will these sockets support 8 core cpu's @ 22nm's ivy bridge/ Haswell?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to get a outlook on my next platform upgrade and when to buy.
 
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zokudu

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At least it's not a new socket. Sandy bridge early adopters can pick up a new motherboard in a year and take their $300 i7-2600K chips with them.

This is very much in line with historical socket 478 and 775 patters. Forward socket compatibility for older chips on newer boards. Sure beats the 1156 -> 1155 transition.

The new chipset should bring USB3, more SATA3 connectors and FDI so we can finally use our SB onboard graphics.

This they're holding onto a shred of backwards compatibility and I applaud them for that. I'm still not buying SB though.
 

Dark Shroud

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LGA 2011 should have native support for at least x16/x16 the same as LGA 1366 did.

I don't care to have a boad with the NF200 chip.
 

Grooveriding

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If Intel wants my money, they can entice me with a friggin' chipset that gives me two 16x PCI-E lanes. Then I'll buy your new board.

Exactly. This is why I'm passing on SB until the 2011 enthusiast stuff hits. Performance is great and cheap enough but it's a gimped platform for the high end imo. Would be a downgrade for me with my current system.
 

aigomorla

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Right with that trixy NF200 chip. Is that native support or is it just manipulating the lanes somehow? E.g., will it actually perform as if there are two 16x lanes? I guess it doesn't matter, I see little to no difference on my P67 UD4 from my X58.

what about MSI Lucid Hydra?
 

Spikesoldier

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sure does sound like intel. im thinking of more along the lines of the tualatin processor which was a great cpu, yet could only be used on boards that were made very late in the s370 days.

i guess intel's announcement that they will be making less money on the cpu and more on the pch's sounds right. i bet this is for legal reasons to change up their business plan, with their huge market share in cpu and now with gpu's coming onto the cpu, making the majority of your money on pch's would remove a lot of risk if the barn ever comes crashing down with an antitrust lawsuit.
 

aigomorla

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Meh...
Where art thou socket 2011?!?!
 

dangerman1337

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Meh...
Where art thou socket 2011?!?!

Q4 2011 from the looks of it, i wonder why though? They released High end Nehalem first in 2008 and Sandy bridge (probably the ones we have) was demonstrated in IDF 2009 and was clearly in working order. They could of just relased aside with mainstream.
 

IntelUser2000

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Q4 2011 from the looks of it, i wonder why though? They released High end Nehalem first in 2008 and Sandy bridge (probably the ones we have) was demonstrated in IDF 2009 and was clearly in working order. They could of just relased aside with mainstream.

Because its based on server platforms. It doesn't make sense to produce a chip that's entirely for enthusiasts, it needs to share the platform, like with a low-end server platform. Server chip is releasing later, so the enthusiast chips do too.
 

Zargon

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Exactly. This is why I'm passing on SB until the 2011 enthusiast stuff hits. Performance is great and cheap enough but it's a gimped platform for the high end imo. Would be a downgrade for me with my current system.

its def not optimal for tri-fire with only doing x8 x8 x4.
 

Jumpem

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This doesn't concern me at all. I have never upgraded a processor on the same motherboard.
 

IntelUser2000

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Ah, I could have seen this coming. Happened with Socket 478, Socket 775 chips. You had about 40% boards that were compatible with the new processors on the same sockets, but the other 60% needed a change, or a new board revision. Of course the new chipsets based on the same sockets were backward compatible.

Tock=totally incompatible
Tick=partially compatible(depends on your luck), backwards compatible
 

Idontcare

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This doesn't concern me at all. I have never upgraded a processor on the same motherboard.

This is true for me and I had not even realized it until I saw your post and thought about it...I have built my own rigs since the days of 286 PC's and Computer Shopper and IIRC I have never once, not a single time, upgraded my CPU without upgrading my mobo at the same time.

New CPU's are usually designed with advancements in mind for the rest of the computer.

Upgrading my video card and hard-drive are probably the only two "upgrades" I do without making a major overhaul involving new mobo and new cpu.