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Iverson for MVP?

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AI should be the MVP so far... He's having the best season of his career (33.7 ppg, 7.9 ast, 2.1 spg, .447 shooting %) while leading Philly to the top of the division (which they should win). To top it off, he's 3rd/4th in ESPN's efficiency ratings. Text

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For Iverson, the problem wasn't creating shots, it was making the ones he created. This year his field-goal percentage is up to 45.0 percent instead of his usual mark in the low 40s, and that accounts for the difference. There's an explanation for this, too. It seems he's realized how he can take better advantage of the defensive rules that limit hand-checking, and the result has been fewer tries with his iffy jumper and more drives to the basket. Iverson has cut his 3-point attempts significantly -- as a portion of his field-goal attempts, he's taking 28 percent fewer than he did a year ago. Instead, he's seen his free-throw attempts balloon to nearly 12 per game. It's rare to see a 30-year-old guard shatter his career high in free throws, and it demonstrates how well Iverson's speed has held up despite the nightly beatings his 165-pound body takes on those drives to the basket.

But that's not the only impressive dimension of Iverson's game. Look at the column labeled "TO." That signifies a player's Turnover Ratio -- the percent of possessions he uses that end in a turnover -- and a low score is the objective. Among players in the top 25 in PER, Iverson ranks second only to Dirk Nowitzki, which is amazing if you think about it. Iverson is running the point and driving to the basket all game long, which are two of the highest risk factors for turnovers. Yet he's managed to turn the ball over less than even a spot-up shooter such as Rashard Lewis.
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AI only gets better as time goes on, and if the Sixers make the playoffs he should be MVP. Discuss.
 
He's always had my vote.

I wish he would leave the 6ers though, I don't think that team will ever do anything to compliment his abilities and help him to the finals.
 
13-12 and head of the division? Pfft. That's barely a .50 record.

I think Elton Brand is an MPV in the works. The Clippers are having a franchise shaking season so far.
 
I love AI. It took awhile, but he has really won me over. That dude is a true warrior.

But yeah, Elton Brand is probably the pack leader for MVP at this time.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
13-12 and head of the division? Pfft. That's barely a .50 record.

I think Elton Brand is an MPV in the works. The Clippers are having a franchise shaking season so far.
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What he said...

 
I respect his ability, but I'm not sold that this is any different than last season for him

13-12 record?

45% FG?

Statistically, LeBron should be the MVP.
 
Originally posted by: isekii
You really think philly will win the atlantic ?
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They have a damn good chance. Secret weapon that puts them over the top? Shavlik Randolph!

 
for debate, what about Chauncey Billups for MVP this season? i know i'm a Piston's fan, but consider this: Detroit is off to a red-hot 20-3 record. some are debating a possible 70 win season. they've played more games on the road this season than at home. they're done with 2/3 of their West coast trips. all signs point to Detroit contending for the best record in the NBA this season.

now, Chauncey Billups is playing the best basketball of his career right now. his numbers aren't as gaudy as AI's, but Detroit success makes Philly's look like a lotto team. Chauncey's playing as the best player on the best team right now.

i fully admit it's a long shot, but does he get any MVP consideration?
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
13-12 and head of the division? Pfft. That's barely a .50 record.

I think Elton Brand is an MPV in the works. The Clippers are having a franchise shaking season so far.
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Multi Purpose Vehicle? 😛
 
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Is Iverson still the cocky bastard he started out as or has he changed into a respectable player now?
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AI's a ten year veteran now. he's definitely a mellow and respectable player now. if you can't appreciate what he does with his size in the NBA, you can't possibly call yourself a fan of basketball. the guy's 6 feet tall and barely 160 pounds, but can dominate the game.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
basketball players taking beatings? that's news to me.
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Anyone that says basketball isn't a contact sport hasn't played basketball. Yes, the chance of career ending injuries are lower than in football, but the actual number of injuries are much higher.

Serious ankle sprains, ACL tears/sprains, broken wrists/hands, back injuries from landing on the floor, ect.

It's obviously not the same type of impacts that you'll see in the NFL, but to say that basketball players aren't succeptable to injuries and "taking a beating" is simply naive. These guys are running up and down a court for 30+ minutes a night 80-100 nights a year..plus practices. The jumping, the landing, the occasional elbow to the face, the under the basket collision, ect. It wears on you over the course of time.
 
Originally posted by: iamme
for debate, what about Chauncey Billups for MVP this season? i know i'm a Piston's fan, but consider this: Detroit is off to a red-hot 20-3 record. some are debating a possible 70 win season. they've played more games on the road this season than at home. they're done with 2/3 of their West coast trips. all signs point to Detroit contending for the best record in the NBA this season.

now, Chauncey Billups is playing the best basketball of his career right now. his numbers aren't as gaudy as AI's, but Detroit success makes Philly's look like a lotto team. Chauncey's playing as the best player on the best team right now.

i fully admit it's a long shot, but does he get any MVP consideration?
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I went to school with him at GW. Chaunce is the man, I wish we would have kept him here in Denver, but I'm glad he's doin good up there with the Wallace bros.

 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: ElFenix
basketball players taking beatings? that's news to me.
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Anyone that says basketball isn't a contact sport hasn't played basketball. Yes, the chance of career ending injuries are lower than in football, but the actual number of injuries are much higher.

Serious ankle sprains, ACL tears/sprains, broken wrists/hands, back injuries from landing on the floor, ect.

It's obviously not the same type of impacts that you'll see in the NFL, but to say that basketball players aren't succeptable to injuries and "taking a beating" is simply naive. These guys are running up and down a court for 30+ minutes a night 80-100 nights a year..plus practices. The jumping, the landing, the occasional elbow to the face, the under the basket collision, ect. It wears on you over the course of time.
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i thought Elfenix was making a joke about nba player taking beatings rather than dishing them out (i.e. domestic violence). i could be wrong though....
 
Originally posted by: iamme
for debate, what about Chauncey Billups for MVP this season? i know i'm a Piston's fan, but consider this: Detroit is off to a red-hot 20-3 record. some are debating a possible 70 win season. they've played more games on the road this season than at home. they're done with 2/3 of their West coast trips. all signs point to Detroit contending for the best record in the NBA this season.

now, Chauncey Billups is playing the best basketball of his career right now. his numbers aren't as gaudy as AI's, but Detroit success makes Philly's look like a lotto team. Chauncey's playing as the best player on the best team right now.

i fully admit it's a long shot, but does he get any MVP consideration?
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He definitely warrants some consideration. Ultimately I don't think he'll win it, because there are other guys who have to do more for their teams than CB, and a close vote would sway in their favor. But consideration, I should hope so.
 
Originally posted by: iamme
for debate, what about Chauncey Billups for MVP this season? i know i'm a Piston's fan, but consider this: Detroit is off to a red-hot 20-3 record. some are debating a possible 70 win season. they've played more games on the road this season than at home. they're done with 2/3 of their West coast trips. all signs point to Detroit contending for the best record in the NBA this season.

now, Chauncey Billups is playing the best basketball of his career right now. his numbers aren't as gaudy as AI's, but Detroit success makes Philly's look like a lotto team. Chauncey's playing as the best player on the best team right now.

i fully admit it's a long shot, but does he get any MVP consideration?
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Billups deserves serious consideration for MVP without question. Its not just about gaudy numbers. He really steps it up whenever the Pistons are in a tight game (which aren't many to begin with but enough to see he's the man that takes over).

However my vote would still go to Elton Brand, assuming the Clippers don't collapse.
 
OMG has anyone even seen Kobe dropping 62 points in Three QUATERS! Or what about Lebron James turning the CAVS into a winning machine.

 
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Is Iverson still the cocky bastard he started out as or has he changed into a respectable player now?
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AI's a ten year veteran now. he's definitely a mellow and respectable player now. if you can't appreciate what he does with his size in the NBA, you can't possibly call yourself a fan of basketball. the guy's 6 feet tall and barely 160 pounds, but can dominate the game.
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I'm not a fan of basketball which is why I had to ask the question. Only thing I know of him is a few years back when he was the biggest A-hole in the NBA. Doesn't matter how well you play, if you're an ass you don't deserve the MVP.
 
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Is Iverson still the cocky bastard he started out as or has he changed into a respectable player now?
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AI's a ten year veteran now. he's definitely a mellow and respectable player now. if you can't appreciate what he does with his size in the NBA, you can't possibly call yourself a fan of basketball. the guy's 6 feet tall and barely 160 pounds, but can dominate the game.
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I'm not a fan of basketball which is why I had to ask the question. Only thing I know of him is a few years back when he was the biggest A-hole in the NBA. Doesn't matter how well you play, if you're an ass you don't deserve the MVP.
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i didn't really mean to direct that comment about not being a fan, to you. 😱
 
Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: iamme
for debate, what about Chauncey Billups for MVP this season? i know i'm a Piston's fan, but consider this: Detroit is off to a red-hot 20-3 record. some are debating a possible 70 win season. they've played more games on the road this season than at home. they're done with 2/3 of their West coast trips. all signs point to Detroit contending for the best record in the NBA this season.

now, Chauncey Billups is playing the best basketball of his career right now. his numbers aren't as gaudy as AI's, but Detroit success makes Philly's look like a lotto team. Chauncey's playing as the best player on the best team right now.

i fully admit it's a long shot, but does he get any MVP consideration?
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Billups deserves serious consideration for MVP without question. Its not just about gaudy numbers. He really steps it up whenever the Pistons are in a tight game (which aren't many to begin with but enough to see he's the man that takes over).

However my vote would still go to Elton Brand, assuming the Clippers don't collapse.
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Yup Chauncey is invaluable and may not score as much but runs his team just as well as any other guard in the league. Brand is having a monster year, no doubt, and he and AI will be hot in the running for MVP. 😉

 
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