I've had it with overclocking.

[idea]

I've built 3 boxes for myself in my life. All with parts intending to be overclocked. The first was a Celeron 566 hoping for 850. Then was a Thunderbird 1.0 hoping for 1.4. Finally, I have a Barton 2500+ hoping for 3200+.

I bought the best Abit boards, the best RAM, the best air cooling. I've fuxxing had it. Overclocking never works. It's a god damn scam. The first two boxes I just thought "Oh well, bad luck, I must've bought a bunk chip" but 3 in a row!?! I spent so much money on these parts for the Barton, I could've just spent half of that if I knew I wasn't going to overclock.

I end up just running everything at stock speed because the POS system can't handle the overclocked settings. Overclocking is a scam run by AMD and Intel and the like to get enthusiasts to buy their pc parts or something. Fuxx this shite.

 

[Ronin]

While I appreciate your frustration, perhaps some more in depth descriptions as to what happened (or what didn't happen, as it where). The Barton 2500+: did you research and make sure you got an unlocked one?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Feel better now that you've vented? Here's the bottom line, there is no guarantee with overclocking, PERIOD! Research, high quality components, and a solid methodology for evaluating and stressing a system, then overclocking it are the tools of the trade, but in the final analysis it comes down to the luck of the draw as to wether you get parts capable of exceeding their rated speeds to the extent desired and/or anticipated

My suggestion to you is in the future buy pretested hardware from the FS/FT forum that has proven itself worthy. If you purchase from a reputable trader known for the overclocking prowess you will end up with hardware that definitely overclocks well, even if it doesn't achieve quite the lofty levels of excellence it does for them. For afterall, the force is stronger with some than others, and the darkside makes one powerful quickly :evil:

 

[StumbleBum1]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Feel better now that you've vented? Here's the bottom line, there is no guarantee with overclocking, PERIOD! Research, high quality components, and a solid methodology for evaluating and stressing a system, then overclocking it are the tools of the trade, but in the final analysis it comes down to the luck of the draw as to wether you get parts capable of exceeding their rated speeds to the extent desired and/or anticipated

My suggestion to you is in the future buy pretested hardware from the FS/FT forum that has proven itself worthy. If you purchase from a reputable trader known for the overclocking prowess you will end up with hardware that definitely overclocks well, even if it doesn't achieve quite the lofty levels of excellence it does for them. For afterall, the force is stronger with some than others, and the darkside makes one powerful quickly :evil:

very well said!:beer:

 

[JustStarting]

I went through about 6 Intel CPU's from 2.4C's to 3.0C's, trying to find one that met my goals. here I sit surfing at 3.75g on my 3.0c rig!!

It took 3 weeks of testing CPU's, RAM, mobo's etc.... I spent many an hour searching the forum for deals on chips, and took a shot on an untested 3.0C. Original owner claimed not to have OC'ed it, but for $190 I knew it would most likely hit 3.5g, and that was a good deal.

Don't give up, but sometimes it is a crap shoot.

 

[Sheriff]

Your luck must be down cause I always have success OCing along with many many others so I guess you have a minority point of view on the matter. Only wish the best for you in the future and remember Peeps are here to help if you desire it instead of rants

 

[loafbred]

I've bought a lot of cpu's in the past ten years, and I've only had two that overclocked decently. One was a Celeron 466 that ran at 582, and the other is my present Barton 2400-m mobile cpu. I was so pleased with my 2400-m, that I got one for a friend... of course, his won't do more than 2.1 GHz, regardless of voltage. At least his does work at 2100 with 1.65v.

If you were hoping for a very high overclock, keep in mind that many of the people who get the really high overclocks happen to have access to a number of cpu's, and get to pick a good one. Some even buy several, keep the best one(s) and return or sell the rest. Buying one blindly is just a crapshoot. You might want to keep an eye open for a good used one, then sell yours for what you paid for the used one.

 

[RickH]

As they have said it's luck, but I have had good luck. Celeron 300s@450, 566s@850, PIV 1.6s@2.4, all Intel, most with a voltage increase. You can keep them cool but in a couple years they may die. I recently had a Celeron 566@850 in my dad's computer die. It was slow by todays standards but worked great for him. The MB couldn't take the increaed current any more and almost caught on fire. It lasted ~4 years, but could have burned the house down. The air coming out of the powersupply fan felt like the air from a hair dryer!! Yikes. RRRRR

 

[BugsBunny1078]

you dont buy low grade parts to overclock into high grade parts.
buy the parts that work at the pseed you want and then tweak them to be as fast as they can be together.
I have a p4 2.4 ghz I am running at 3 ghz but the extra speed is a bonus . I know I can go even faster if I replace my pc2700 rAm which is running at 400 mhz with some OC friendly stuff.But the overclocking ram is sold as the speed itll run at . My kingston pc2700 running at pc3200 is sheer luck.
also parts do need a break in time believe it or not. You might not be able to run at fast memory timings on a new stick but after two weeks it works fine. I can't explain this but it is a fact.

 

[pspada]

Since many people are able to overclock without problems, myself included, I have to assume that the fault lies not in the concept but in yourself.

 

[Soulkeeper]

yeah i couldn't hit 3200+ speeds either
it's basically luck of the drawl i suppose
I take it you already tryed raising the vdd, vcore, and vdimm ?



goood luck !!

 

[jdogg707]

As others have said it's the luck of the draw my friend! You may want to consider taking your chip to church or something and praying with it...you may inspire it to be all that it can be...but other than that you are probably limited to whatever Vcore/settings you are using. I love to overclock, it's fun, and if I can't hit a certain speed with a chip, I usually hit the FS/FT Forums sell it and go buy a new one to try again. Good luck though!

 

[Dman877]

My OC history over the last 4 years or so:

P3 500 (Slot1 Katmai) maxed at 560 (woohoo!) on a asus p3v4x
Athlon 900 maxed at 1050 on a abit kt133 board
Tbird 1.0 (remember the AXIA craze?) did 1.4 stock voltage, maxed at 1.52 or so on a kt133a or something
Palamino 1800 did 1.61 on a kt266
Tbred 1800 did 1933 on a abit NF2
Tbred 2200 did 1.9 on the same abit nf2
Barton 2500 does 3200 (haven't tried any higher) straight 333 -> 400 fsb switch on a NF7
A64 3000 on K8V will do 2180 but has problems after, I think its the agp or something

So, not a whole lot of luck for me either. The only cpu's I've got that could OC a lot were the well known steppings of the 1.0 TBird and a unlocked Barton.

 

[EarthwormJim]

I never really buy computer parts with the intent of overclocking (although it's definetly in the back of my mind), sure I'll get an enthusiast motherboard and good ram but that's just to have a good system at stock. Overclocking is a kind of free bonus that at the same time is a gamble, you really shouldn't spend alot of money to buy another processor that may overclock better. Buy stuff you know runs fast at stock and hope you get the added bonus of good overclocks, but don't let the overclocks be the deciding factor in your purchase

 

[Rukkian]

I see alot of people trying to buy alot of high end stuff, simply to get their new 2500+ to hit 3200+, when with the extra they spent, they could have bought a 3200. It is not the end of the world. My 2500 will do 190fsb on stock voltage, which is a nice increase from stock and simply a bonus.

 

[slaves123]

and... you should never never forget that you paid for a 2500+ and you get a 2500+ so if you can hit 3200+ good for you! but if you can't you should not criticize anyone or anything about it

 

[Sheriff]

Originally posted by: Rukkian
I see alot of people trying to buy alot of high end stuff, simply to get their new 2500+ to hit 3200+, when with the extra they spent, they could have bought a 3200. It is not the end of the world. My 2500 will do 190fsb on stock voltage, which is a nice increase from stock and simply a bonus.

Well I bought my high end stuff and got 2GHz+ from my XP1700 and used the same things to get 2.4GHz from my XP2500 so there is a savings in the long haul

 

[PCBliss]

The newer 2500+ chips seem to have trouble hitting 200 FSB. I got mine in october (AQXEA0334) and it does 2250 at default voltage, and ive had it at 10x238 stable just recently with my new board.

 

[Hyperfocal]

I feel like a lucky guy.

Got a 2500+, it runs at 200*11 at stock voltage.

Just got a 1.6 Duron today, it runs at 2ghz at stock voltage. Shoulda bought PC3200 ram instead of the PC2700 cheap stuff.

Oh, well, somebody's gotta buy the real 3200+s and 3.4Cs.

 

[Fern]

OK, oc'ing takes patience or luck. With luck you change a few things and go right to 3200+. For the rest of patience is required, and good cooling cuz we'll need more vcore to get there than the lucky one's.

You've got the right gear, wanna try again? List what methodology you've tried and let's see if we can get it 3200+ with a little patience

 

[NokiaDude]

OC'ing = Teh Suckage

A stock 2500+ is PLENTY fast for everyday use. I actually wish AMD would make an internal logic chip so there's no way possible to OC CPU's.

 

[L1FE]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
OC'ing = Teh Suckage

A stock 2500+ is PLENTY fast for everyday use. I actually wish AMD would make an internal logic chip so there's no way possible to OC CPU's.

Ummm...what would be the point in that? It may be plenty fast for you, but others are looking to get more for their money. I was lucky and able to get an awesome 2500+ that hits 223 fsb with a 10.5 multiplier on 1.725V...considering I got the processor for 80 bucks and it runs faster than a $300 processor...why would you want to get rid of something that gives consumers added value...

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: pspada
Since many people are able to overclock without problems, myself included, I have to assume that the fault lies not in the concept but in yourself.

Yup sounds like PEBKAC to me.

 

[slaves123]

but the oc'ing is a matter of luck and wisdom, first, even if you buy the "best parts for OC" there are posibilities of being unable to do anything more than stock, and even if you have the best parts sometimes it is more than just selecting a value, sometimes it need to mod someparts, to research about your specific model and steppings, even though most of the times it is quite simple, but sometimes it is not, good luck with yours

 

[fireontheway]

lucky me